Hello Shawn!

Last union I got stuck with my wages went down quite a
bit. If I'm stuck paying dues and it's more then I pay
for benefits now I'm going to give notice and look for
something else.

The last time I was part of a union was when I worked in
Quebec. In Canada, you have the choice to steer your union dues
to a charity if you do not what the funds to go to the union.
That is what I chose.

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August Abolins wrote in a message to Shawn Highfield:

The last time I was part of a union was when I worked in
Quebec. In Canada, you have the choice to steer your union dues to
a charity if you do not what the funds to go to the union. That
is what I chose.

Really? So if I did that I'd have to still pay for benefits separately?

Shawn

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Last union I got stuck with my wages went down quite a
bit. If I'm stuck paying dues and it's more then I pay
for benefits now I'm going to give notice and look for
something else.

The last time I was part of a union was when I worked in

>Quebec. In Canada, you have the choice to steer your union dues
>to a charity if you do not what the funds to go to the union.
>That is what I chose.

When I was in high school I got a job in a grocery store and they have one
of the strongest unions in the country (Canada). I learned real quick that
if you work harder than everyone else, they called you first for overtime
work at higher wages and extra hours. Long story short, that was working
really well and others started complaining. The management gave me 3
sets of Merit raises, something that had not been done in 15 years, and
that gave me a pay rate that I would have had to work 3 years to get
within my first year there.

At one point I set a country wide production record and I found myself
one night on a remote staircase being threatened by the union rep.
No violence at the time but I was told if I ever needed the union for
anything I could forget it. I told them I was doing fine without their
help, and did this mean I could stop paying union dues? They didn't
think that was very funny really. Some people have no sense of humour..

No option back then for union dues to go anywhere but to the union.

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Rob Mccart wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS <=-

No option back then for union dues to go anywhere but to the union.

I was a member of the UFCW Local 555 back in the late 80s in Portland,
Oregon. I was paying $33 a month for no help and a bunch of hot air from
the union. It's still the same way, I'm told.

Unions had their place in history but these days, it's a way to make the
union leaders rich and shaft everyone else.

-- Sean

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Hello Rob!

[...] I told them I was doing fine without their
help, and did this mean I could stop paying union dues?
They didn't think that was very funny really. Some people
have no sense of humour..

No option back then for union dues to go anywhere but to the union.

I think the option is presented to the employer or the Human
Resources dept who manage the union dues deduction.
Inotherwords, you don't need permission from the union.
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Hi August,
In a message to Rob Mccart you wrote:

I think the option is presented to the employer or the Human
Resources dept who manage the union dues deduction. Inotherwords, you don't need permission from the union. --

I have other arguments. If we are unionized and I didn't get the chance to vote becuase I work in the office, I think the entire thing should be thrown out
and they shoudl have to start over.

I'm gonna throw such a fit if I don't get to vote. So far no one has invited me
or sent me any information about the union. (I get it from driver friends of mine)

Shawn

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I have other arguments. If we are unionized and I didn't get the chance to vote becuase I work in the office, I think the entire thing should be thrown out
and they shoudl have to start over.

When I worked in a union shop, those of us that worked in the office were
not unionized. Are you sure the union in question is going to cover the
office staff?

Mike


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Mike Powell wrote in a message to SHAWN HIGHFIELD:

When I worked in a union shop, those of us that worked in the office
were not unionized. Are you sure the union in question is going to
cover the office staff?

We're just guessing. There are 7 of us that work in the office but are not management. The other 7 office staff are management, so we're really not sure what will happen. Other then the fact they are lieing to new Canadians about what they will get them.

We have one client, if the union comes in and thinks that client is going to pay us what they want they are nuts. They will just fire our company and pay their own staff.

Shawn

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Shawn Highfield wrote to Mike Powell <=-

When I worked in a union shop, those of us that worked in the office
were not unionized. Are you sure the union in question is going to
cover the office staff?

We're just guessing. There are 7 of us that work in the office but are not management. The other 7 office staff are management, so we're
really not sure what will happen. Other then the fact they are lieing
to new Canadians about what they will get them.

Many of us office folks were not management and we were not unionized.
Only the plant workers (Commercial Food Workers), truck drivers
(Teamsters), and maybe janitorial staff were union.

I was at the very bottom of the totem pole among the office staff. ;)

We have one client, if the union comes in and thinks that client is
going to pay us what they want they are nuts. They will just fire our company and pay their own staff.

Ouch!


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Hi Mike,
On <Thu, 06 Nov 24>, you wrote me:

Many of us office folks were not management and we were not
unionized. Only the plant workers (Commercial Food Workers), truck drivers (Teamsters), and maybe janitorial staff were union.

Okay so there is hope for me yet. LOL Of course, as I mention below I
don't see them doing naything but canceling the contract once the
union is in.

I was at the very bottom of the totem pole among the office staff.
;)

Me too. Don't get any lower then me, and I like it that way.

Shawn

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