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Shurato wrote to All <=-
Is there any way to tell what USB version a port is using? I've
got a front panel port that is USB-C and supposedly 3.2, but I
never get more than 1Mbps out of it... I'd love to know the real
version by querying a device or something. I don't know how I'd
specify the exact port otherwise.
Is there any way to tell what USB version a port is using? I've got a front
Shurato wrote to All <=-
Is there any way to tell what USB version a port is using? I've got
a front panel port that is USB-C and supposedly 3.2, but I never
get more than 1Mbps out of it... I'd love to know the real version
by querying a device or something. I don't know how I'd specify
the exact port otherwise.
You didn't specify an OS, but in Linux the 'lsusb' command would likely
give you the info you seek. Probably have to be root when you run i
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Is there any way to tell what USB version a port is using? I've got afront
You can pop the case open, trace the wire back to the usb header on the motherboard and MAYBE it'll say there ... but there probably is a software way I'm guessing.
I found USBDeview. It looks like the device is 2.1 and I don't know
about
the hub. The connection on the hub says 3.2 for this device, which is
I found USBDeview. It looks like the device is 2.1 and I don't know about the hub. The connection on the hub says 3.2 for this device,
which is
I wonder is the connector inside the USB port blue (which would indicate 3.x) or not.Yes it is, which is why I'm puzzled that I can't get more than 10MBps out of it... That's even slower than USB 2.0. I have 2 external USB HDDs plugged into USB 3.0 ports on the back of my PC and they get the expected maximum of 1Gbps, which is about the max for HDDs. I tried plugging this hub into a similar port and keep getting the abysmal speeds.
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Is there any way to tell what USB version a port is using? I've got a front panel port that is USB-C and supposedly 3.2, but I never get more than 1Mbps out of it... I'd love to know the real version by querying a device or something. I don't know how I'd specify the exact port otherwise.
To: Shurato Re: USB Version of a specific port? By: Shurato to All
on Fri May 10 2024 01:16 pm
From Newsgroup: micronet.comp
Is there any way to tell what USB version a port is using? I've got afront
panel port that is USB-C and supposedly 3.2, but I never get more than1Mbps
out of it... I'd love to know the real version by querying a device or something. I don't know how I'd specify the exact port otherwise.
you can physically examine the hardware and look it up.
you can physically examine the hardware and look it up.
Yeah, all the hardware and docs show 3.0 or higher, but I'm only getting 1Mbps, plus the ports are blue with the proper number of connectors. My HDDS running off of USB operate at the proper speed (1.1Gb/s or so) on the same port. This is my second hub from different manufacturers and I spent quite
a bit more on this one.
I wonder is the connector inside the USB port blue (which would indicate 3.x) or not.
I wonder is the connector inside the USB port blue (which wouldindicate
3.x) or not.
They make USB 3.x in black as well.
They make USB 3.x in black as well.
Figures. I have not seen that yet but did recently come across some that were white instead.
To: Shurato
Re: USB Version of a specific port? By: Shurato to Jas Hud on Sat May
11 2024 10:28 pm
you can physically examine the hardware and look it up.
Yeah, all the hardware and docs show 3.0 or higher, but I'm onlygetting
1Mbps, plus the ports are blue with the proper number of connectors.My
HDDS running off of USB operate at the proper speed (1.1Gb/s or so) onthe
same port. This is my second hub from different manufacturers and Ispent
quite a bit more on this one.
no i mean actually look at the board and see what you can see.
but it's apparently some cheap hub so there ya go.
I had an anker 3.0 4 port hub ($19), now I have an RSH 7 port hub ($45).
It provides the proper speed with my HDDs, I don't have a USB SSD to test.
For USB thumb drives, I get the same speed I get plugging straight into
my motherboard (MSI MAG Z590 Tomahawk) 130MB/s read, 13MB/s write.
They're rated at 550MB/s read and write... I don't know if it's the motherboard, or just real world performance. So, it's not the hub.
Thanks for all the trouble shooting help though, to all of you.
I had an anker 3.0 4 port hub ($19), now I have an RSH 7 port hub ($45). It provides the proper speed with my HDDs, I don't have a USB SSD to test. For USB thumb drives, I get the same speed I get plugging straight into my motherboard (MSI MAG Z590 Tomahawk) 130MB/s read, 13MB/s write. They're rated at 550MB/s read and write... I don't know if it's the motherboard, or just real world performance. So, it's not the hub. Thanks for all the trouble shooting help though, to all of you.
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Hello Shurato!
** On Monday 13.05.24 - 13:46, Shurato wrote to Jas Hud:
I had an anker 3.0 4 port hub ($19), now I have an RSH 7 port hub
($45).
It provides the proper speed with my HDDs, I don't have a USB SSD to test.
For USB thumb drives, I get the same speed I get plugging straight into my motherboard (MSI MAG Z590 Tomahawk) 130MB/s read, 13MB/s write. They're rated at 550MB/s read and write... I don't know if it's the motherboard, or just real world performance. So, it's not the hub. Thanks for all the trouble shooting help though, to all of you.
My TP60 has an PCMCIA/ExpressCard slot, so I got a USB3
adapator for it. Works great.
To: Shurato Re: USB Version of a specific port? By: Shurato to Jas
Hud on Mon May 13 2024 01:46 pm
I had an anker 3.0 4 port hub ($19), now I have an RSH 7 port hub($45). It
provides the proper speed with my HDDs, I don't have a USB SSD to test.For
USB thumb drives, I get the same speed I get plugging straight into my motherboard (MSI MAG Z590 Tomahawk) 130MB/s read, 13MB/s write.They're
rated at 550MB/s read and write... I don't know if it's themotherboard, or
just real world performance. So, it's not the hub. Thanks for all the trouble shooting help though, to all of you.
are you sure you want to run drives off something cheap like that. i
have a few drobo clones that are decent.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KY73BNQ/ they have cheaper
models. i'd go with this.
also, do you really use thumdrives that much that you need a hub for them?
the front panel connections for the thumbdrives; I was just testing their speed and it's the same regardless of whether I use the hub or the motherboard. I don't have enough external drives to need a NAS (ie, only 1 3.5" and 1 2.5"). I've got enough space internally for 2 more 3.5" and 2 more 2.5" drives any way. I just went external for the ones I use out of convenience.
Jas Hud wrote to Shurato <=-
people need to change their priorities and stop useless tinkering and building around existing problems. things will be a lot easier. gordon ramsay calls people that are fucused on dumb shit but dont see the big picture busy idiots.
T.J. Mcmillen wrote to Shurato <=-
You can pop the case open, trace the wire back to the usb header on the motherboard and MAYBE it'll say there ... but there probably is a
software way I'm guessing.
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Jas Hud wrote to Shurato <=-
people need to change their priorities and stop useless tinkering and building around existing problems. things will be a lot easier. gordon ramsay calls people that are fucused on dumb shit but dont see the big picture busy idiots.
You're preaching to the wrong crowd, pal. BBS sysop and tech hobbyists
have been building solutions for most of their lives - and for the
enjoyment and challenge as much as solving for a need.
$_.InstanceId -match '^USB' }.
4. Open Device Manager (devmgmt.msc). Expand open Universal Serial Bus
controllers to see which USB port types your system supports.
5. Check the USB icon in the system tray. Ports with connected devices
show a blue and red USB icon, while ports not currently in use show a blue
USB icon. Adjacent to the ports in use youaCOll also see a generic name on
the right. When you select a port that is in use, youaCOll see a screen full
of detailed information about the connected USB device.
For Linux and FreeBSD, if you have the "usbutils" package installed, running "lsusb" as root will give you the info.
-- Sean
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I wonder is the connector inside the USB port blue (which wouldindicate
3.x) or not.
They make USB 3.x in black as well.
Figures. I have not seen that yet but did recently come across some that were white instead.
Jas Hud wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
Furthermore, if they have been building solutions for most of their
lives, when are they going to learn to backup??
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Jas Hud wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
Furthermore, if they have been building solutions for most of their lives, when are they going to learn to backup??
You're generalizing to make a point.
Many do, whether they've learned
the hard way to back up or through force of habit to back their shit
up.
who? who backs up other than me? I don't believe it. i've seen 'i've lost it >all in a crash' way too much.
Jas Hud wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
who? who backs up other than me? I don't believe it. i've seen 'i've lost it all in a crash' way too much.
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who? who backs up other than me? I don't believe it. i've seen 'i've lost it >all in a crash' way too much.
I do.
That said, it is not fool-proof. I recently realized that something wasn't right, hadn't been for a while, and hadn't been for long enough that none
of my backups contained a pre-"wasn't right" copy of the indexes in question. ;)
So I am covered for a crash, but maybe not always for something more subtle.
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Jas Hud wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
who? who backs up other than me? I don't believe it. i've seen 'i've lost it all in a crash' way too much.
I've got a local filesystem backup using xcopy, a system backup weekly,
and an archival backup in the cloud. Does that count?
If my BBS dies and I don't bring it back up it won't be because of an
inability to restore.
Jas Hud wrote to Mike Powell <=-
so it's 2 of us that backup.
i am pretty sure about 99% of sysops do not backup,
and if they think they are backing up they are doing it in a
shitty manner.
Jas Hud wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
i thought you lost stuff in a crash before.
why are you using xcopy instead of an archiver?
I've seen how you do things and i don't believe you could recover from
a crash other than having your ansi screens.
To: Kurt Weiske
Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port? By: Kurt Weiske to Jas Hud
on Tue May 14 2024 08:25 am
From Newsgroup: micronet.comp
Jas Hud wrote to Shurato <=-
Yeah but bbs sysops are not without fault. there's a difference between being challenged and subjecting yourself to stupidity.
Furthermore, if they have been building solutions for most of their lives, when are they going to learn to backup?? :D
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Jas Hud wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
i thought you lost stuff in a crash before.
No.
I've seen how you do things and i don't believe you could recover from a crash other than having your ansi screens.
No, you haven't.
I back up my BBS directory to an external HDD nightly, with daily backups going back until I delete them. I back up all of my drives to another external HDD as well as my BBS to the cloud. The only reason I didn't have a bgackup of my BBS when I decided to bring it back is that I did for 6 years, then thought I'd never bring it back... I had it backed up to DVD, then
threw that away when I didn't realize that I could use a VM... I would like to think that most of us backup.
To: Shurato
Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port? By: Shurato to Jas Hud on Fri
May 17 2024 12:47 pm
I back up my BBS directory to an external HDD nightly, with dailybackups
going back until I delete them. I back up all of my drives to another external HDD as well as my BBS to the cloud. The only reason I didn'thave
a bgackup of my BBS when I decided to bring it back is that I did for 6 years, then thought I'd never bring it back... I had it backed up toDVD,
then threw that away when I didn't realize that I could use a VM...like
I would
to think that most of us backup.
well i remember you losing your stuff. so you didn't backup correctly, or at all. i thought you had a crash issue, i dont recall a dvd story. i wouldn't trust to put it on one DVD anyways, due to cd rot and whatever.
it's YOUR stuff, so do what you want to do. Not backing up is just a common bbs sysop thing.
I upgraded to Windows 10 64 bit and didn't know that there were options so that I could still run 16 bit dos doors. A lot of people don't know that they've got VMs or NTVDMx64 as an option. I didn't find out until about 6 years later after I threw away my backup. Yeah, I learned my lesson and am
I've seen how you do things and i don't believe you could recover from a crash other than having your ansi screens.
No, you haven't.
Jas Hud wrote to Shurato <=-
it's YOUR stuff, so do what you want to do. Not backing up is
just a common bbs sysop thing.
so that I could still run 16 bit dos doors. A lot of people don't know that they've got VMs or NTVDMx64 as an option. I didn't find out until about 6 years later after I threw away my backup. Yeah, I learned my lesson and am
NTVdm64 is okay but its really a hack to make 64-bit Windows do something it was not designed to do. When studying the tech detail on this, the potential for it all to be broken by an MS update is just too much of a red flag.
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On 17 May 24 06:40:00, Kurt Weiske said the following to Jas Hud:
I've seen how you do things and i don't believe you could recover from a crash other than having your ansi screens.
No, you haven't.
Seems like we're all "backing up" to this same topic and being trolled how much our setups suck compared to our vastly superior IT professional here.
Nick
Remember over the years you've been my feed a few times with a few bbses. I had to drop you due to your issues.
Seems like we're all "backing up" to this same topic and being trolled how much our setups suck compared to our vastly superior IT professional here.
so it's 2 of us that backup. i am pretty sure about 99% of sysops do not backup, and if they think they are backing up they are doing it in a shitty manner.
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Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Jas Hud to Kurt Weiske on Fri May 17 2024 03:49 pm
Remember over the years you've been my feed a few times with a few bbses. I had to drop you due to your issues.
Yeah, your refund must have gotten lost in the mail.
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Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Nick Andre to Kurt Weiske on Fri May 17 2024 09:11 pm
Seems like we're all "backing up" to this same topic and being trolled how much our setups suck compared to our vastly superior IT professional here.
Yeah, I love how he criticizes people providing volunteer services and people doing their own thing for the love of a good hobby. That's true class.
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Re: Re: USB Version of a spec
By: Jas Hud to Mike Powell on Thu May 16 2024 05:37 pm
so it's 2 of us that backup. i am pretty sure about 99% of sysops do not backup, and if they think they are backing up they are doing it in a shitty manner.
I am not a sysop, so I think I don't count, but backups are 50% of my personal IT expenses. It is due mostly to the fact that when I upgrade the storage of a working computer, I may have to upgrade the storage of the backup servers that service it.
Yeah, I love how he criticizes people providing volunteer services and peop doing their own thing for the love of a good hobby. That's true class.
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Yeah, I love how he criticizes people providing volunteer services and peop doing their own thing for the love of a good hobby. That's true class.
Don't forget the helpful hyperlinks. ahhaha