Ha.. I met her on a 'guided' hike in the Niagara Escarpment.
It was advertised for singles but the lady guiding us thought it
was a lot more about the hike than a singles meet. Needless to
say they got quite a few people showing up for it that maybe
shouldn't have been out on a long, difficult hike.

It probably didn't help that she got us lost for a while too.. B)

Maybe that was supposed to be the "singles meet" part of the hike? :D

Mike


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Ha.. I met her on a 'guided' hike in the Niagara Escarpment.

>> It was advertised for singles but the lady guiding us thought it
>> was a lot more about the hike than a singles meet. Needless to
>> say they got quite a few people showing up for it that maybe
>> shouldn't have been out on a long, difficult hike.

It probably didn't help that she got us lost for a while too.. B)

Maybe that was supposed to be the "singles meet" part of the hike? :D

They could have been dropping off like flies.. in pairs.. B)

Although I actually dated the girl I met there for a year or so that
was another case where she right away asked me and a buddy who had
gone there with me what we did for a living..

I was working in a product developement and quality control lab and
my friend was a high end technician for a Telecom company, but both
of us started in lower positions and worked our way up and the lady
was not at all happy to hear that neither of us had actual degrees
as 'engineers', but I guess we were the best available that day.

Ironically, although she had a university degree, it was one of
those that are totally useless for getting a job, studying a lot
of courses like language, art and literature.

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Although I actually dated the girl I met there for a year or so that
was another case where she right away asked me and a buddy who had
gone there with me what we did for a living..

Honestly, I think that some people ask that as a way of making small talk
and are not necessarily fishing for your income level. It is probably difficult to tell which is which, though. I guess their reaction to the
answer could be the give away.

I was working in a product developement and quality control lab and
my friend was a high end technician for a Telecom company, but both
of us started in lower positions and worked our way up and the lady
was not at all happy to hear that neither of us had actual degrees
as 'engineers', but I guess we were the best available that day.

A lot of folks without degrees, but with technical or on-the-job training,
make better money than I did with one. OTOH, a lot of people with advanced degrees never put them to good use. I don't hold the lack of a degree
against anyone.

Ironically, although she had a university degree, it was one of
those that are totally useless for getting a job, studying a lot
of courses like language, art and literature.

LOL, as I was saying above before I read this... :D

Mike


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Although I actually dated the girl I met there for a year or so that

>> was another case where she right away asked me and a buddy who had
>> gone there with me what we did for a living..

Honestly, I think that some people ask that as a way of making small talk

>and are not necessarily fishing for your income level. It is probably
>difficult to tell which is which, though. I guess their reaction to the
>answer could be the give away.

Definitely, a lot of people ask what a person does as a way to
get talking about things that are usually not uncomfortable to
talk about.. (Unless they are unemployed).. B)

That said, when we roughly mentioned what we did, she got into
that 'Are you Engineers??' bit and seemed quite disappointed
with our answers..

Funny, I remember my late Brother in Law who was in industrial sales
came to the place I worked in the Lab and Warehouse to try to sell
us some racking and somehow while I was showing him around the
subject of what I was earning working there came up.. and he seemed
to get pretty upset. Later I asked my sister about it and she said
he was royally peeved when he found out I was making quite a bit
more money than he was in his fancy suits and 3 martini lunches.. B)

A lot of folks without degrees, but with technical or on-the-job training,

>make better money than I did with one. OTOH, a lot of people with advanced
>degrees never put them to good use. I don't hold the lack of a degree
>against anyone.

Yes, usually the best indicator of how good (successful?) your
education was is your income level. A lot of people who dropped
out of college ended up millionaires, mostly the ones with good
ideas that didn't see their current courses being of any use to
pursue that. (See Michael Dell.. I believe..)

Ironically, although she had a university degree, it was one of

>> those that are totally useless for getting a job, studying a lot
>> of courses like language, art and literature.

LOL, as I was saying above before I read this... :D

Regardless of her degree she really wasn't exactly the sharpest
crayon in the box on her best days.. B)

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Honestly, I think that some people ask that as a way of making small talk

>and are not necessarily fishing for your income level. It is probably
>difficult to tell which is which, though. I guess their reaction to the
>answer could be the give away.

Definitely, a lot of people ask what a person does as a way to
get talking about things that are usually not uncomfortable to
talk about.. (Unless they are unemployed).. B)

That said, when we roughly mentioned what we did, she got into
that 'Are you Engineers??' bit and seemed quite disappointed
with our answers..

Yeah, that reaction would lead me to believe your impression that she was fishing for income info is correct. ;)

A lot of folks without degrees, but with technical or on-the-job training,

>make better money than I did with one. OTOH, a lot of people with advanced
>degrees never put them to good use. I don't hold the lack of a degree
>against anyone.

Yes, usually the best indicator of how good (successful?) your
education was is your income level. A lot of people who dropped
out of college ended up millionaires, mostly the ones with good
ideas that didn't see their current courses being of any use to
pursue that. (See Michael Dell.. I believe..)

Yeah, I was thinking along the lines of people who learn a trade and make
good money but, yeah, there are some folks out there who turn out to be
real tycoons without a degree.

Mike

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That said, when we roughly mentioned what we did, she got into

>> that 'Are you Engineers??' bit and seemed quite disappointed
>> with our answers..

Yeah, that reaction would lead me to believe your impression that she was

>fishing for income info is correct. ;)

Yes, although she was pretty young so maybe that was forgivable.
Their mothers teach them to look for money once they are past
the 'looking for a bad boy their father will hate' stage.. B)

Yes, usually the best indicator of how good (successful?) your

>> education was is your income level. A lot of people who dropped
>> out of college ended up millionaires, mostly the ones with good
>> ideas that didn't see their current courses being of any use

Yeah, I was thinking along the lines of people who learn a trade and make

>good money but, yeah, there are some folks out there who turn out to be
>real tycoons without a degree.

Yes, there's no real substitute for smart. At one point I was planning
to go to university to take aeronautical engineering, hoping to
get into the space program (young dreams..) until I found out there
were a lot of people with that degree that were working in factories
designing material handling equipment (conveyor systems) because
there were so few positions available to use what they took in school.

Now, I suppose I could have ignored that and expected to be one
of the lucky ones who got the good job but I guess my heart wasn't
into it quite enough to spend 4 very difficult years just to get
a job I didn't want.

About learning a trade, that's the best guarantee of a decent
job if you are any good at it, and often there isn't even much
schooling involved with many trades being apprenticeship based.
A few years at lower pay while you learn the trade and then
you're free to go out on your own.

These days, the service jobs are best. Never enough people around
to look after the aging population or do basic work people need
done around the house or yard that they don't have the time or
possibly the knowledge to do themselves.

For a while I did property management to add to my income and
it paid well and I always had lots of customers because I could
do almost anything around a house after years of looking after my
own without the funds to pay others to do the work. I was pretty
decent at doing plumbing, electrical, roofing and basic structural
repairs as well as putting in/out seasonal water systems and such.

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