Hey Omnibrain!

On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 21:01:10 -0700, you wrote:

chat is atm not implemented - the others are. That's why I need your installation to check on a newly created board they're working for me.

Where would you like me to send it after I zip it?

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Omnibrain!

On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 21:01:10 -0700, you wrote:

chat is atm not implemented - the others are. That's why I need your installation to check on a newly created board they're working for me.

Also, do you need/want everything zipped up? After cloning from git to '/home/user/src/icy_board', I installed the actual BBS to '/home/user/icb'. So the BBS is not in the same directory tree.

Would you like the two directories zipped up separately? Or do you just need the codebase, and can install your own BBS from that?

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Accession!

On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 06:57:14 -0500, I wrote:

Hey Omnibrain!

Also, do you need/want everything zipped up? After cloning from git to '/home/user/src/icy_board', I installed the actual BBS to
'/home/user/icb'. So the BBS is not in the same directory tree.

Would you like the two directories zipped up separately? Or do you just
need the codebase, and can install your own BBS from that?

Is there a special way you want this zipped up as well? I've started zipping up the icy_board directory and it's already over 3.0G. Most of the debug executables are almost a half a gigabyte each!

How in the world did a little dinky package like PCBoard get so huge? Is it because of Rust and the 800 dependencies and packages it pulled in when I installed icy_board? Was all of this seemingly pulled into the icy_board directory?

I'll wait to compress until you let me know a better way. lol

PCBoard 15.2 is on archive.org at 8.1M. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Where would you like me to send it after I zip it?

Either open a github issue with it or my email mkrueger@posteo.de

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Also, do you need/want everything zipped up? After cloning from git to '/home/user/src/icy_board', I installed the actual BBS to '/home/user/icb'. So the BBS is not in the same directory tree.

I only need the BBS - I've the source code of icy_board :).

Thanks

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Hey Omnibrain!

On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 22:02:00 -0700, you wrote:

Where would you like me to send it after I zip it?

Either open a github issue with it or my email mkrueger@posteo.de

Github issue created.

That said, is telnet and/or ssh fully implemented? I load up the WFC, and am not able to connect to it via any of my attempts including Syncterm, or Linux console telnet/ssh.

Regards,
Nick

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That said, is telnet and/or ssh fully implemented? I load up the WFC,
and am not able to connect to it via any of my attempts including Syncterm, or Linux console telnet/ssh.

Not sure about syncterm but ssh/icyterm works for me. As well as telnet.
What are you trying?

ssh -p 1338 localhost

?

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Hey Omnibrain!

On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 05:37:58 -0700, you wrote:

Not sure about syncterm but ssh/icyterm works for me. As well as telnet. What are you trying?

ssh -p 1338 localhost

?

This ssh command works, however:

telnet localhost 1337

.. does not. It is indeed enabled in icbsetup.

Also, when I used the ssh command, at the login prompt I hit enter a few times to disconnect, and it hung while disconnecting. I had to close out of the WFC to fully disconnect that session.

Regards,
Nick

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.. does not. It is indeed enabled in icbsetup.

you set"pharcyde.org" as binding address that doesn't work. Leave that empty that binds to 0.0.0.0 that's the default and ok.

Binding address is no DNS. If you've a server with more ip addresses this makes sense to set. 0.0.0.0 simply means listen on all ipv4 addresses on the local machine.

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Hey Omnibrain!

On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 09:32:32 -0700, you wrote:

Binding address is no DNS. If you've a server with more ip addresses
this makes sense to set. 0.0.0.0 simply means listen on all ipv4
addresses on the local machine.

Gotchya. Removed that and it worked properly. Only one thing after this, once connected via ssh, and hitting enter at the "Enter your first name" prompt a few times, it sends the error that it disconnects, however it doesn't disconnect. I have to manually close the WFC and restart the BBS in order to get out of that session (CTRL-C doesn't even work). Telnet actually disconnects, though.

Other than that, everything else that is supposed to work from the main menu, now works. Thanks for the fixes! Will dive deeper when time permits.

Regards,
Nick

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Twas Sunday, October 19th when Accession said...

Gotchya. Removed that and it worked properly. Only one thing after this, once connected via ssh, and hitting enter at the "Enter your first name" prompt a few times, it sends the error that it disconnects, however it doesn't disconnect. I have to manually close the WFC and restart the BBS in order to get out of that session (CTRL-C doesn't even work). Telnet actually disconnects, though.

y saw that too - and utf8 wasn't handled well -fixed both. I only did testing with telnet. Will need to look at WebSockets too.


On Sunday, October 19th Accession muttered...

Other than that, everything else that is supposed to work from the main menu, now works. Thanks for the fixes! Will dive deeper when time permits.

y could repro with your installation.

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Hey Omnibrain!

On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 14:32:00 -0600, you wrote:

y saw that too - and utf8 wasn't handled well -fixed both. I only did testing with telnet. Will need to look at WebSockets too.

Not sure if when you close an issue, maybe you don't get notifications for it any more. So here's a bump for you to take a look at the most recent issue you closed, as it contains more information.

I maybe should have opened a new ticket, but I think it had to do with what we were currently discussing (or at least in the same realm). ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Hi

y open new ones otherwise it's easy to lose track.

Esp. for things that are completely unrelated - like FNEXT.

I look at the enhanced who one - there are some functions/statements not implemented but not many.

I'll take a look at that PPE.

You can scan ppes with ppld --check to see if one uses functions/statements that are not implemented.
For the missing ones I search PPEs to test out the implementation.

Not sure if when you close an issue, maybe you don't get notifications
for it any more. So here's a bump for you to take a look at the most recent issue you closed, as it contains more information.

I maybe should have opened a new ticket, but I think it had to do with what we were currently discussing (or at least in the same realm). ;)

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I maybe should have opened a new ticket, but I think it had to do wit what we were currently discussing (or at least in the same realm). ;)

Fixed the issues - didn't know the fnext function - it's one easy one to implement.

Can you check your ppes with:

find -name "*.PPE" | xargs -n 1 ppld --check

nice that someone finally tries to use icy board in a real world
pcboard->icy board transition scenario. I try to recreate it but pcboard is huge. Beside some easy functions I've missed like fnext there are two bigger things that are not implemented:

DOS things (registers/interupts) and DBASE. Haven't looked into the DBASE thing yet. There are dbase libraries for rust that could handle .dbf files.

DOS peeks&pokes may be simulated - did that with the nibbles game. For local display it seems that they vsynced the output for making the display smoother. That's something that was possible to fake. But I need the use cases for that.

But atm I consider the PPE engine almost complete and fix missing PPE functions on a by PPE basis :).

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Hey Omnibrain!

On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 00:30:44 -0700, you wrote:

Fixed the issues - didn't know the fnext function - it's one easy one to implement.

Thanks, that worked!

find -name "*.PPE" | xargs -n 1 ppld --check

For what it's worth, I got another error with another PPE (something to do with file access). Unfortunately, I ran the 'ppld --check' command and it told me the PPE was fine, even though I couldn't get it to run properly in the BBS. Even more unfortunate, when I was messing about with it, decompiling and trying to find an answer.. I deleted the contents of the directory that contained the last callers display and data.. so I deleted the whole directory and don't have the original zip of the PPE any more. I'll find another last callers PPE to try in the meantime.

nice that someone finally tries to use icy board in a real world pcboard->icy board transition scenario. I try to recreate it but pcboard
is huge. Beside some easy functions I've missed like fnext there are two bigger things that are not implemented:

DOS things (registers/interupts) and DBASE. Haven't looked into the
DBASE thing yet. There are dbase libraries for rust that could handle
.dbf files.

DOS peeks&pokes may be simulated - did that with the nibbles game. For
local display it seems that they vsynced the output for making the
display smoother. That's something that was possible to fake. But I need
the use cases for that.

I suppose I'm not familiar with the above. However, I've had issues with 'icbsetup' and a bunch of options that require input (not just a check mark or X) as far as backspace and delete is concerned, ie they don't work very well, and the text that is there disappears but it's still actually there.

But atm I consider the PPE engine almost complete and fix missing PPE functions on a by PPE basis :).

Yeah so far I have about 6 old PPEs from 1993-1995 installed and running fine. It was only the one you already fixed, and some random last callers mod that had a "LCO.PPE" that you needed to run when a user logs off. It doesn't display anything, but I think it added the current user to the last calls list or something. If I run into the same PPE again, I'll let you know - as it was one of the better last calls mods I found, so I'll probably be looking for it again.

The only real downfall to all of this is sifting through thousands of PPEs to find a decent one that does what you want, because there was sooo much garbage made back in those days, and I really don't have the patience to learn PPL, even though I may be able to learn that quicker than it would take me to find decent PPEs. ;)

For example, simple ideas like a login matrix PPE, made back then, includes the new user process and an entire new user voting system, as well as other parts of the login process that I wouldn't want as part of the matrix. Just a lightbar login matrix, that can point to other PPEs would be amazing. It doesn't need anything else (because I'd like to do everything else separately). Unfortunately, that means sifting through hundreds of trash PPEs for an hour and not actually accomplishing anything. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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