Hello Janis!

24 Apr 18 11:16, you wrote to me:

I also would appreciate it if Zone 2 was kept out of Z1C for the
remainer of my tenure, certainly during the election. We have a good number of Zone 1 members who could handle the "election coordinator"
or whatever job.

I was thinking of asking if Vince Coen was willing to serve as the election coordinator. If a Z1 sysop takes the job, someone might claim they tried to influence the outcome with their own vote.

I only mention this since I was forwarded Michiel van der Vlist's
netmail to all of the Z1 RCs...

Interesting that I never received it. I'll have to check my other system.

Andrew


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Hello Nick!

23 Apr 18 17:42, you wrote to all:

It's been a long time since we've had an election in Zone 1 for
Zone 1 coordinator (quite <grin>).

Okay, I'll get the ball rolling.

We need to decide on an election coordinator and timeframe...

Public nominations/seconds/debate in Z1C and NetMail balloting with passwords?

Andrew

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On 24 Apr 18 06:46:49, Andrew Leary said the following to Nick Andre:

It's been a long time since we've had an election in Zone 1 for
Zone 1 coordinator (quite <grin>).

Okay, I'll get the ball rolling.

We need to decide on an election coordinator and timeframe...

Public nominations/seconds/debate in Z1C and NetMail balloting with passwor

Agreed.

Nick

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Hello Nick!

23 Apr 18 17:42, you wrote to all:

It's been a long time since we've had an election in Zone 1 for
Zone 1 coordinator (quite <grin>).

Okay, I'll get the ball rolling.

We need to decide on an election coordinator and timeframe...

Public nominations/seconds/debate in Z1C and NetMail balloting with passwords?

Excellent.

I also would appreciate it if Zone 2 was kept out of Z1C for the remainer of my
tenure, certainly during the election. We have a good number of Zone 1 members
who could handle the "election coordinator" or whatever job.

I only mention this since I was forwarded Michiel van der Vlist's netmail to all of the Z1 RCs...

Take care,
Janis

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On 24 Apr 18 11:16:04, Janis Kracht said the following to Andrew Leary:

I only mention this since I was forwarded Michiel van der Vlist's netmail t all of the Z1 RCs...

I was just going to bring that up, this is definately a Z1-specific matter.

Nick

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Hi Nick -- on Apr 24 2018 at 12:40, you wrote:

I was just going to bring that up, this is definately a Z1-specific
matter.

Thanks, Nick and Janis -- I agree completely!


Cheers... Dallas

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On 24 Apr 18 11:16:04, Janis Kracht said the following to Andrew Leary:

I only mention this since I was forwarded Michiel van der Vlist's netmail t >> all of the Z1 RCs...

I was just going to bring that up, this is definately a Z1-specific matter.

Thank you Nick, it certainly should only involve the Z1 RCs.

Take care,
Janis

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Re: Re: Zone 1 Election for Zone Coordinator
By: Nick Andre to Janis Kracht on Tue Apr 24 2018 12:40 pm

I was just going to bring that up, this is definately a Z1-specific matter.

Could you imagine the reaction if the roles were reversed?
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Hello Andrew,

It's been a long time since we've had an election in Zone 1 for
Zone 1 coordinator (quite <grin>).

Okay, I'll get the ball rolling.
We need to decide on an election coordinator and timeframe...

Public nominations/seconds/debate in Z1C and NetMail balloting with passwords?

I agree with this proposed procedure.

I also think that this election should held with only Z1 participation.

Jeff

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On 2018 Apr 24 06:46:48, you wrote to Nick Andre:

It's been a long time since we've had an election in Zone 1 for Zone
1 coordinator (quite <grin>).

Okay, I'll get the ball rolling.

We need to decide on an election coordinator and timeframe...

Public nominations/seconds/debate in Z1C and NetMail balloting with passwords?

something wrong with Z1_ELECTION?? it was created specifically for Z1 election processes...

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On 2018 Apr 24 12:46:16, you wrote to Janis Kracht:

I only mention this since I was forwarded Michiel van der Vlist's
netmail to all of the Z1 RCs...

Interesting that I never received it. I'll have to check my other system.

you were not included in the copy i received... only 8 were listed... i'm also surprised that he didn't address them to the /0 addresses... that would have been more proper since the post was related to RC business :shrug:

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Hello mark!

25 Apr 18 06:22, you wrote to me:

Public nominations/seconds/debate in Z1C and NetMail balloting
with passwords?

something wrong with Z1_ELECTION?? it was created specifically for Z1 election processes...

I have no issue with using it; however I figured that Z1C had a better chance of the links being intact. It's been a long time since Z1_ELECTION was used for its intended purpose.

Andrew

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Hello mark!

25 Apr 18 06:25, you wrote to me:

I only mention this since I was forwarded Michiel van der
Vlist's netmail to all of the Z1 RCs...

Interesting that I never received it. I'll have to check my
other system.

you were not included in the copy i received... only 8 were listed...
i'm also surprised that he didn't address them to the /0 addresses...
that would have been more proper since the post was related to RC
business :shrug:

So selective distribution to only 80% of the Z1 RCs. That right there shows this to be exactly what it is: political manipulation/meddling by someone who shouldn't be involved. Ask Michiel how that worked out for the Russians in the last US Presidential election.

I will not allow him to be involved in this process, which by Policy is the sole responsibility of the Zone 1 RCs.

Andrew

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Re: Zone 1 Election for Zone Coordinator
By: Andrew Leary to mark lewis on Wed Apr 25 2018 08:25 am

I have no issue with using it; however I figured that Z1C had a better chance of the links being intact. It's been a long time since Z1_ELECTION was used for its intended purpose.

We all have some time to link to it now. :)
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Re: Zone 1 Election for Zone Coordinator
By: Andrew Leary to mark lewis on Wed Apr 25 2018 08:27 am

So selective distribution to only 80% of the Z1 RCs. That right there shows this to be exactly what it is: political manipulation/meddling by someone who shouldn't be involved.

I'm going to invoke Occam's banana -- never attribute to malice what you can attribute to oversight.
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On 2018 Apr 25 08:25:42, you wrote to me:

Public nominations/seconds/debate in Z1C and NetMail balloting with
passwords?

something wrong with Z1_ELECTION?? it was created specifically for Z1
election processes...

I have no issue with using it; however I figured that Z1C had a better chance of the links being intact. It's been a long time since
Z1_ELECTION was used for its intended purpose.

it has been a long time since Z1_ELECTION was used for any purpose... i think the last real election that took place in there was the Z1EC election... not sure if that was the one that placed xxcarol as Z1EC or if it was the hugely rough one previous to that that was a huge battle...

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On 2018 Apr 25 08:27:42, you wrote to me:

Interesting that I never received it. I'll have to check my other
system.

you were not included in the copy i received... only 8 were listed...
i'm also surprised that he didn't address them to the /0 addresses...
that would have been more proper since the post was related to RC
business :shrug:

So selective distribution to only 80% of the Z1 RCs. That right there shows this to be exactly what it is: political manipulation/meddling
by someone who shouldn't be involved. Ask Michiel how that worked out
for the Russians in the last US Presidential election.

i'm not going to ask him anything ;)

I will not allow him to be involved in this process, which by Policy
is the sole responsibility of the Zone 1 RCs.

exactly... we on the same page in the same book here :)

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On 2018 Apr 25 07:17:58, you wrote to Andrew Leary:

Re: Zone 1 Election for Zone Coordinator
By: Andrew Leary to mark lewis on Wed Apr 25 2018 08:25 am

I have no issue with using it; however I figured that Z1C had a better
chance of the links being intact. It's been a long time since
Z1_ELECTION was used for its intended purpose.

We all have some time to link to it now. :)

and since it should still be on the backbone, it should be easy enough to get connected... we still have the same problem to deal with as to non-Z1 access, though...

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On 2018 Apr 25 07:18:54, you wrote to Andrew Leary:

Re: Zone 1 Election for Zone Coordinator
By: Andrew Leary to mark lewis on Wed Apr 25 2018 08:27 am

So selective distribution to only 80% of the Z1 RCs. That right there
shows this to be exactly what it is: political manipulation/meddling by
someone who shouldn't be involved.

I'm going to invoke Occam's banana -- never attribute to malice what you can attribute to oversight.

hahahaha... it is all to easy to count from 10 to 19 and the person in question
is very capable of various methods of performing that count... the following method works great ;)

grep -e "^Region,1" nodelist.112 | cut -d "," -f 1,2,5

Region,10,Kurt_Weiske
Region,11,RJ_Clay
Region,12,Nick_Andre
Region,13,Michael_Luko
Region,14,Jeff_Smith
Region,15,Tj_Barlow
Region,16,Andrew_Leary
Region,17,Dallas_Hinton
Region,18,mark_lewis
Region,19,Marc_Lewis

that's enough to stuff into a script and fire off to the /0 address... granted,
mine arrived via a direct connection but it could be possible that others were send routed since there's no DIR flag in what i received...

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Hi Janis

wow its been a wile u have been the ZC for as long as i can rember, i hope
u stick around fidonet will not be the same with out u, i wish u luck once
this is all over with agian i hope u stick around Keep in touch.

Sincerly
Terry and Tj Barlow
RC15

*Originally posted in Z1C by Janis Kracht

Hi Folks,

It's been a long time since we've had an election in Zone 1 for Zone 1 coordinator (quite <grin>).

Today, I'm asking the RCs in Zone 1 to organize an election in Zone 1

where

any
past or present NC, past or present RC, or past or present ZC may be nominated/elected. The date of the election will be at the discrection

of

the RCs though I'm hoping this can be done quickly with the least disruption to Zone 1.

I will not be running in this election since life has become very busy

here

with family, etc.

Final note, thank you to all of you in Zone 1 who've helped keep Zone 1 running
:)

Thanks again,
Janis Kracht, Z1C

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Hi Tj,

wow its been a wile u have been the ZC for as long as i can rember, i hope
u stick around fidonet will not be the same with out u, i wish u luck once this is all over with agian i hope u stick around Keep in touch.

Thanks :)

Take care,
Janis

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