Hello everybody.

Have you seen the latest Star Trek: Discovery trailer? What are your thoughts?

I found it awesome!

Flavio

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Re: Star Trek Discovery

Have you seen the latest Star Trek: Discovery trailer? What are your thoughts?

Do not like what they've done to the klingons, not one bit. This is supposed
to take place after Enterprise, so they should have left the klingons alone since the ones we saw in Enterprise were the same as we've come to know from TNG and the other shows.

The new ship looks like the stole parts from an old Klingon ship.

I'm also not going to pay another service in order to watch it. I think CBS
is making a majorly bad decision by not airing it on regular TV, and I'm
afraid it will seriously hurt the franchise.

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Hello Drew.

21 May 17 13:23, you wrote to me:

Have you seen the latest Star Trek: Discovery trailer?
What are your thoughts?

I found it awesome!

To which Drew Klenotic replies...

I haven't yet, but I'm hoping to soon.

Take a look at Youtube: At the latest ComicCon they've released a VERY interesting trailer which might reveal a lot about the story of this series...

Flavio

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Hello Dallas.

28 May 17 11:17, you wrote to me:

Do not like what they've done to the klingons, not one bit. This is supposed to take place after Enterprise, so they should have left the klingons alone since the ones we saw in Enterprise were the same as
we've come to know from TNG and the other shows.

That's causing a lot of debate around. It seems that these guys will have an explanation, just like the ones regarding the forehead ridges (which at
the end were a byproduct of the Augment virus). We will have to wait and see.

The new ship looks like the stole parts from an old Klingon ship.

Believe it or not, the USS Shenzou looks like an upgraded Enterprise-clas ship, while the USS Discovery had its design taken from a scrapped series called Star Trek Phase II.

I'm also not going to pay another service in order to watch it. I
think CBS is making a majorly bad decision by not airing it on regular
TV, and I'm afraid it will seriously hurt the franchise.

That's what will be, I believe, the major "shot in the foot" that CBS is doing now. For instance, I live in Brazil, and the series will be made available immediately over Netflix, therefore I won't have to pay extra to have
it (as I pay Netflix already)

Flavio

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Well I'm surprised that they ordered a second season. Really I thought that it would not "fly" because the Star Trek fans would not pay CBS to see it on their paid service. (Think they call it All Access). I'm wating for Netflix to pick it up there cause I can get it from them. I figured the ST clubs would DVR or recoord it and swap it among themselves rather than pay to watch it.

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Hello Al!

09 Nov 17 06:22, you wrote to all:

Well I'm surprised that they ordered a second season. Really I
thought that it would not "fly" because the Star Trek fans would not
pay CBS to see it on their paid service. (Think they call it All
Access). I'm wating for Netflix to pick it up there cause I can get
it from them. I figured the ST clubs would DVR or recoord it and swap
it among themselves rather than pay to watch it.

I'd like to know actual numbers on how many new subscriptions CBS got, and then how many will stick around after the season ends. I'm debating cancelling my CBS All Access pass for the month of December, and picking it back up when the second half of Season 1 starts.

That said, I'm enjoying the show, but I've really only seen glimpses of what I consider to be "Star Trek". The Orville is more Star Trek than Discovery is, at
this point.


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Mike Miller wrote to Al Kaiser Subject: Star Trek Discovery

I'd like to know actual numbers on how many new subscriptions
CBS got, and then how many will stick around after the season ends.
I'm debating cancelling my CBS All Access pass for the month of
December, and picking it back up when the second half of Season 1
starts

Yea that will be interesing to see who bails after the season ends and IF they come back next year and how many.

That said, I'm enjoying the show, but I've really only seen
glimpses of what I consider to be "Star Trek". The Orville is more
Star Trek than Discovery is, at this point

Boy I've got a friend who is watching and and says it's very star trek. Since I'm not I can't agree or disagree with you.

If I remember from the first episode Discovery happens between Enterpise and TOS. So they could be referencing things and people in the the Enterprise series. Wonder if there will be a USS Tripp to honor Tripp who died in the series.

Saw that they will do a Mudd episode just wonder if they will "age" the characters right. You could also see the TOS charaters in their early years
in Starflet or in the Academy.

Done right it could be a boone to ST arc. Done wrong a disaster. It wll be an intesting few years.


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That's all for now!

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Hello Al!

10 Nov 17 06:43, you wrote to me:

Mike Miller wrote to Al Kaiser Subject: Star Trek Discovery

That said, I'm enjoying the show, but I've really only seen
glimpses of what I consider to be "Star Trek". The Orville is
more Star Trek than Discovery is, at this point

Boy I've got a friend who is watching and and says it's very star
trek. Since I'm not I can't agree or disagree with you.

If I remember from the first episode Discovery happens between
Enterpise and TOS. So they could be referencing things and people in
the the Enterprise series. Wonder if there will be a USS Tripp to
honor Tripp who died in the series.

It's set 10 years before TOS. There's a reference to the Enterprise which was
in service at the time (under Captain Christopher Pike). Not many other things have been referenced.

Saw that they will do a Mudd episode just wonder if they will "age"
the characters right. You could also see the TOS charaters in their
early years in Starflet or in the Academy.

There were two episodes containing Mudd. Both were... interesting. Rainn Wilson (he played Dwight Schrute in The Office) plays the character in Discovery, there are a few pictures online where you can compare Wilson's Mudd to TOS's Roger C. Carmel's Mudd. There's a definite resemblance.

Done right it could be a boone to ST arc. Done wrong a disaster. It
wll be an intesting few years.

I'll avoid spoilers and just say that it wasn't bad. I enjoyed it.

Mike


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On 09 Nov 17 07:48:12 Mike Miller wrote...

I'd like to know actual numbers on how many new subscriptions CBS
got, and then how many will stick around after the season ends. I'm debating cancelling my CBS All Access pass for the month of December,
and picking it back up when the second half of Season 1 starts.

That said, I'm enjoying the show, but I've really only seen glimpses
of what I consider to be "Star Trek". The Orville is more Star Trek
than Discovery is, at this point.

Mike

To which Drew Klenotic replies...

Yeah, I haven't been watching STD... but I am really liking the Oriville.
Been kind of impressed with the alien races too.

Sometimes it gets a little silly, but frankly, I think we need that right
about now.

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Drew Klenotic wrote to Al Kaiser Subject: Star Trek Discovery

Consider yourself told. The Orville is pretty much a slightly
less serious version of Star Trek... or to be more accurate, it is
still a serious show... there is danger... there is drama (people
die and we're all pretty said about it). But some of the characters
are smartasses and some are jackasses throughout it all.

I'd recommend watching a few episodes.

I have a look at it. Thanks.

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That's all for now!

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That's all for now!

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I just finished watching the first two seasons of Star Trek DIscovery on DVD from Netflix.

It is NOT Gene Roddenberry's Trek! I do not think that he would have approved of this series. First of all for the language. In all of Trek I only remember one out and out cuss when the ship was crashing into the planet Data said "Oh Shit!" This one has out and out swearing including the "F" word. Also open gay kissing. The suggestion of "gaity" is OK but to have two male or female character kiss on screen is a no-no. Also there were aliens in this series that were never seen again in all of Trek. The whole Klingon war thing in the first season was wrong. This Trek was supposed to be a bridge between Enterprise with Archer and TOS with Kirk. The war with the Klingons was over and we were in a truce, a cold war. Remember The Trouble With Tribbles? That was the way we were with the Klingons. The Klingon makeup and laanguae was all wrong. The Klingon home planet was wrong. The home planet in Trek was "Kling" not Kronos. Kronos came later in the series. Finally the out and out violence. Murder by the fedration? I think not. They made Mudd an out and out criminal that should have been given the death sentence or at least a life sentence. They made him a murder rather than just a scrondrel.

Spock, who was a large part of season two never had a step-sister. He had a half brother who was never mentioned. I saw only three references to TOS one was Mudd and the other whas when Pike picked up the future Spike and saw himself disfigured, also Vena and the Talosians were in the mix. They tried to get back to Trek cannon in the last two scenes in Part II of Sweet Sorrow when they had a scene on the bridge of the Entrprise as it appease, (modernly), when Pike was Captain and Spock was the Lt. Science Officer.

THey tried to write off all that happened over the two years by sending the Discovery and her crew into the future. For anyone left they were resticted "under penalty of death" of every taking or mentioning Discovery and the events that happened in the first two seasons. Even Sarek and Amanda were self quarrentined from talking about it calling them "Ambasadors To the Federation." Sarek was an Ambasador, Amanda never was.

Was this a two year effort with no more seasons of Discovery? How do you have a season 3 when Discovery and all her crew is dead or gone?

Well I'm waiting for "Picard" to come out on DVD. A friend says it is very
good and is "good Trek". Though I do have a disagrement that Data was blown
to smithereens in the last movie, but he said that Data was reconstruced from DNA taken when they tried to disassemble him when Picard fought to call him sentient. We'll see about that one.

Below the first and only official Discovery tagline I was able to gleen from the series.

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Cheers!

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On 31 Mar 2020, Al Kaiser said the following...

the "F" word. Also open gay kissing. The suggestion of "gaity" is OK but to have two male or female character kiss on screen is a no-no.

Since Roddenberry featured the first interracial kiss on American TV, I
suspect he would have had no problem with openly gay affections.

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On 31 Mar 2020, Gary Ailes said the following...

Since Roddenberry featured the first interracial kiss on American TV, I suspect he would have had no problem with openly gay affections.

I tend to agree. Each of the series (TOS, TNG, etc) reflects TV and society
as a whole at the time it aired, sometimes on the leading edges. Profanity was not as accepted on television as it is now, thus we didn't see much of it in prior shows.

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Al Kaiser wrote to All <=-

I just finished watching the first two seasons of Star Trek DIscovery
on DVD from Netflix.

I forgot netflix still delivers DVD. We cancelled the streaming service
about two years ago and we're happy about it.

It is NOT Gene Roddenberry's Trek! I do not think that he would have approved of this series. First of all for the language. In all of
Trek I only remember one out and out cuss when the ship was crashing
into the planet Data said "Oh Shit!" This one has out and out swearing including the "F" word. Also open gay kissing. The suggestion of "gaity" is OK but to have two male or female character kiss on screen
is a no-no. Also there were aliens in this series that were never seen again in all of Trek. The whole Klingon war thing in the first season
was wrong. This Trek was supposed to be a bridge between Enterprise
with Archer and TOS with Kirk. The war with the Klingons was over and
we were in a truce, a cold war. Remember The Trouble With Tribbles?
That was the way we were with the Klingons. The Klingon makeup and laanguae was all wrong. The Klingon home planet was wrong. The home planet in Trek was "Kling" not Kronos. Kronos came later in the
series. Finally the out and out violence. Murder by the fedration?
I think not. They made Mudd an out and out criminal that should have been given the death sentence or at least a life sentence. They made
him a murder rather than just a scrondrel.

Don't forget Star Trek IV. "Why don't you watch where you're going you dumbass!" "Well a double-dumbass on you!!!"

Then the following conversation on colorful metaphors. Great movie that way.

Spock, who was a large part of season two never had a step-sister. He
had a half brother who was never mentioned. I saw only three
references to TOS one was Mudd and the other whas when Pike picked up
the future Spike and saw himself disfigured, also Vena and the
Talosians were in the mix. They tried to get back to Trek cannon in
the last two scenes in Part II of Sweet Sorrow when they had a scene on the bridge of the Entrprise as it appease, (modernly), when Pike was Captain and Spock was the Lt. Science Officer.

I've seen some scene clips on youtube and Spock smiles too much. Pissed me
off. Not sure what that's about.

THey tried to write off all that happened over the two years by sending the Discovery and her crew into the future. For anyone left they were resticted "under penalty of death" of every taking or mentioning
Discovery and the events that happened in the first two seasons. Even Sarek and Amanda were self quarrentined from talking about it calling
them "Ambasadors To the Federation." Sarek was an Ambasador, Amanda
never was.

Was this a two year effort with no more seasons of Discovery? How do
you have a season 3 when Discovery and all her crew is dead or gone?

Well I'm waiting for "Picard" to come out on DVD. A friend says it is
very good and is "good Trek". Though I do have a disagrement that Data was blown to smithereens in the last movie, but he said that Data was reconstruced from DNA taken when they tried to disassemble him when
Picard fought to call him sentient. We'll see about that one.

I'm hearing the Picard show is all about Stewart saying 'F U' to Trump.
Oh, gawd, I really crave star trek as I knew it growing up.


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I'm hearing the Picard show is all about Stewart saying 'F U' to Trump.
Oh, gawd, I really crave star trek as I knew it growing up.

That is all we need... another show to do that! :D

Mike


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On 20 Apr 2020, Dumas Walker said the following...

I'm hearing the Picard show is all about Stewart saying 'F U' to Trump. Oh, gawd, I really crave star trek as I knew it growing up.

That is all we need... another show to do that! :D

I enjoyed it personally. I tend to not read too much into the political messages in modern entertainment and just enjoy the entertainment itself.

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Dumas Walker wrote to DANIEL <=-

I'm hearing the Picard show is all about Stewart saying 'F U' to Trump.
Oh, gawd, I really crave star trek as I knew it growing up.

That is all we need... another show to do that! :D

What can I say? I'm a fan of the original series.


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Hello!

Anyone else excited to see the new season??
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Hello, Charles Stephenson.
On 7/28/20 4:10 AM you wrote:

Hello! Anyone else excited to see the new season??

Interested for sure. I want to see how they go with it.

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Charles Stephenson wrote to All <=-

Hello!

Anyone else excited to see the new season??

Yes, although I'm looking forward more, I think, to a Pike/#1/Spock
series...



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Re: Star Trek Discovery
By: Charles Pierson to Charles Stephenson on Wed Jul 29 2020 09:26 am

Hello, Charles Stephenson.
On 7/28/20 4:10 AM you wrote:

Hello! Anyone else excited to see the new season??

Interested for sure. I want to see how they go with it.

ME too, which how season 1 ended they could take it a lot of different ways. I
forgot, when is the new season starting?

cancelled my CBS subscription til it comes on again. :)
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Hello, Charles Stephenson.
On 8/14/20 9:18 PM you wrote:

Hello, Charles Stephenson. On 7/28/20 4:10 AM you wrote:

Hello! Anyone else excited to see the new season??

Interested for sure. I want to see how they go with it.

ME too, which how season 1 ended they could take it a lot of
different ways. I forgot, when is the new season starting?

Season 3 starts October 15 I believe.

cancelled my CBS subscription til it comes on again. :)

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Re: Star Trek Discovery
By: Charles Pierson to Charles Stephenson on Sat Aug 15 2020 01:08 am

Hello! Anyone else excited to see the new season??

Interested for sure. I want to see how they go with it.

ME too, which how season 1 ended they could take it a lot of
different ways. I forgot, when is the new season starting?

Season 3 starts October 15 I believe.

*SIGH*

that seems SOOOOOO long away! lol
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