• Childhood Leukemia

    From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to Mark Hofmann on Tue Jun 24 23:46:13 2014
    Hi, Mark! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

    You may remember our daughter had ALL when she was three.

    [...]

    Yes, I remember your post on that subject. How long was
    her treatment? It seems it averages between 2 1/2 to
    3 1/2 years - girls typically get less treatment.


    That part hasn't changed, apparently. Her treatment lasted for 2 1/2
    years... but I was also told it took 3 1/2 years for boys.

    I understand the usual dosage of prednisone is more conservative than
    it was years ago, however, and from what you said in another echo I take it the
    effect on your son's behaviour & energy level has been mostly positive. With a
    higher dosage over an extended period of time, folks tend to act "wired". They
    are sensitive to noise & light... they may be impatient & irritable... and they
    can't sleep. I've seen similar effects with virtually everybody I've known who
    has been in this situation regardless of their age or the medical reason(s) for
    using such high dosages. According to our Merck Manual they must all have been
    mentally unbalanced to begin with... but the oncology nurses know better. Like
    parents, they have far more experience with the "hands-on" stuff... [wry grin].



    We are on month 3 right now - just started a new phase.


    We had basically three stages... (IIRC) induction, consolidation, and
    maintenance. Would it be safe to say your son is on maintenance right now, and
    things have settled down to a point where you can write to us about it...? :-)



    Depending on the phase, there are some daily meds he
    has to take at home.


    Ah. It sounded to me as if he might be getting more treatment in the
    hospital, and less at home, than our daughter did. But I remember one phase in
    which we had to go to the hospital every day for a week or two.



    I have entire care plan on printed out pieces of paper
    that outline the phases and what happens on what day.


    Good idea. If it's anything like our daughter's protocol, it's quite
    a challenge to keep track of all this stuff. (Oncology parent joke... "if this
    is Tuesday, it must be methotrexate.") With umpteen different drugs, each on a
    different schedule, I was the only living person who had the drill committed to
    memory. But just in case something unexpectedly happened to me, the oncologist
    & I kept meticulous records of how these things were supposed to be done. :-))



    Given everything that has happened, he is doing great and
    headed in the right direction. That is all we can ask for.


    Yes... and just as I feel I prepared myself years ago for the child I
    had later, I feel you've done the same in your own way. Hang in there.... :-)




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  • From Mark Hofmann@1:261/1304 to Ardith Hinton on Tue Jul 1 14:14:45 2014


    That part hasn't changed, apparently. Her treatment lasted for 2
    1/2 years... but I was also told it took 3 1/2 years for boys.

    Basically the same, but depending on certain test results, the treatment times in the Maintenance Phase can be less.

    I understand the usual dosage of prednisone is more conservative
    than it was years ago, however, and from what you said in another echo I take it the effect on your son's behaviour & energy level has been mostly positive. With a higher dosage over an extended period of time, folks
    tend to act "wired". They are sensitive to noise & light... they may be impatient & irritable... and they can't sleep. I've seen similar effects with virtually everybody I've known who has been in this situation regardless of their age or the medical reason(s) for using such high dosages. According to our Merck Manual they must all have been mentally unbalanced to begin with... but the oncology nurses know better. Like parents, they have far more experience with the "hands-on" stuff... [wry grin].

    He was on the steroid for the first 29 days in a row. In addition to all the things you noted, he also was eating like crazy. This then means going to the bathroom like crazy and he ended up with a rash that wouldn't heal until he was
    off the steroid.

    We had basically three stages... (IIRC) induction, consolidation,
    and maintenance. Would it be safe to say your son is on maintenance right now, and things have settled down to a point where you can write to us about it...? :-)

    Is is on the "Standard Risk B-ALL". There is Induction, Consolidation, Interim
    Maintenance I, Delayed Intensification, Interim Maintenance II, and then Maintenance.

    Currently, we are in the Interim Maintenance I. It will be around the Nov/December timeframe when we enter Mainenance - which will be much less treatment.

    Ah. It sounded to me as if he might be getting more treatment in
    the hospital, and less at home, than our daughter did. But I remember one phase in which we had to go to the hospital every day for a week or two.

    We were going to the hospital once every 7 days. Right now, it is once every 10 days. It varies - and there is a part where it is every day for 4 days in a
    row - two weeks in a row.

    Good idea. If it's anything like our daughter's protocol, it's
    quite a challenge to keep track of all this stuff. (Oncology parent
    joke... "if this is Tuesday, it must be methotrexate.") With umpteen different drugs, each on a different schedule, I was the only living
    person who had the drill committed to memory. But just in case something unexpectedly happened to me, the oncologist & I kept meticulous records
    of how these things were supposed to be done. :-))

    I have all the CureSeach papers that plot out everything by day. That is basically by playbook for this entire process.

    Yes... and just as I feel I prepared myself years ago for the
    child I had later, I feel you've done the same in your own way. Hang in there.... :-)

    Each week feels like a roller coaster. We go up (feel better) up until treatment, and then it is back down.. Then back up again. I just remind myself that he is still much better than the condition he was in when he was first diagnosed.

    - Mark

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