• Secret part of the BBS

    From Bailiff@1:153/7715 to All on Fri May 27 02:35:10 2011
    I couldn't have found this "feed" without the help of Dallas, but I'm happy to be here.

    I think everyone has some sort of survivor aspect to them -- some situation they've managed to overcome, and eventually would like to share.

    Reading the messages here (and there are over 350 for me to still read)... I just wanted to say hello to everyone.

    - Shiloh

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  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Bailiff on Fri May 27 12:39:40 2011
    Hi Bailiff -- on May 27 2011 at 02:35, you wrote:

    I think everyone has some sort of survivor aspect to them -- some
    situation they've managed to overcome, and eventually would like to
    share.

    Yup -- and that's what this echo is all about!

    Reading the messages here (and there are over 350 for me to still
    read)... I just wanted to say hello to everyone.


    And hello back!! You might want to check your auto-signature :-)



    Cheers... Dallas

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  • From Steve Kemp@1:123/789 to Bailiff on Fri Jun 10 02:55:16 2011
    On 5/26/2011 11:35 PM, Bailiff -> All wrote:
    I couldn't have found this "feed" without the help of Dallas, but I'm
    happy to be here.

    I think everyone has some sort of survivor aspect to them -- some
    situation they've managed to overcome, and eventually would like to share.

    Reading the messages here (and there are over 350 for me to still
    read)... I just wanted to say hello to everyone.

    hELLO!

    Seems this is the end.

    --
    Yep, I'm the Atheist. I'm chock full of Ath!

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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to Steve Kemp on Sun Jun 12 15:46:19 2011
    Hi, Steve! Recently you wrote in a message to Bailiff:

    Seems this is the end.


    Yes, but "the end" is a moving target here.... ;-)




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  • From James Bradley@1:342/77 to Ardith Hinton on Fri Jun 17 22:15:00 2011
    Ardith Hinton wrote to Steve Kemp <=-

    Hi, Steve! Recently you wrote in a message to Bailiff:

    Seems this is the end.


    Yes, but "the end" is a moving target here.... ;-)

    LOL!!! "Catch me if you can!"

    Hi again gorgeous! Catch my words to Bailiff for a bit of an explanation to
    my reticence?

    Oh and, aren't the Godless as welcome as those of us with... Um...
    "Spirit"?
    <BWEG>



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  • From James Bradley@1:342/77 to Bailiff on Fri Jun 17 23:00:08 2011
    Bailiff wrote to All <=-

    I couldn't have found this "feed" without the help of
    Dallas, but I'm happy to be here.

    We *all* need help now and again, no matter how much our pride wants us to
    do it all ourselves. Healthy or not. Abused or not. Victimized or not. We
    all walk this planet with our own burdens and baggage.

    I think everyone has some sort of survivor aspect to them --
    some situation they've managed to overcome, and eventually
    would like to share.

    At your leisure, Bailiff. Me, a series of medical mistakes called
    "iatrogenic" care left me diagnosed with a "fibroid neuroma" on my sciatic nerve. In English... Pain.

    Reading the messages here (and there are over 350 for me to
    still read)... I just wanted to say hello to everyone.

    <WAVING>

    One thing you might want to do, is just get a flavour of what we are about, how we interact... From there, I'm positive you will slip right in. I had
    to take a break from fido recently. I let the evil internet into my home
    and have been spending WAY too much time on ebay, but thankfully not too
    much money. <Grin + Wink> Besides that, my domicile needs all sorts of work
    so one of my struggles is to get that done.

    I owe Ardyth (likely) fifteen messages (Ardyth: Sorry lovely, I'd like to
    dig into the topics, but I'll just carry on anew.) but topics fly, and frustrations are bandied about. It's an ebb and flow thing.

    - Shiloh

    Shiloh... Welcome aboard, if I may be so bold. The only real bullying that happens here on fido, is if some idiot tries to stomp on someone, then we regulars tend jump on *them* like mad-dogs. The moderators (AKA: Dallas ;) then "bullies" us to keep our saliva in check, and reminds us that it is
    *his* right and responsibility to keep ALL us in check.

    Since I returned to fido about (Taking a wild guess.) ten years ago (I used
    to run my own BBS decades ago like Dallas is doing.) I've rarely seen a moderator act, and even then, so gently a new person would hardly realize
    it.

    Feel free to "look" stupid! We've ALL been where you are with this forum of communication. We are here to help one another AND to be helped.



    ... James
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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to James Bradley on Sat Jun 18 13:24:35 2011
    Hi, James! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

    Hi again gorgeous!


    Who, me?? Shucks. Anyway, welcome back. We missed you.... :-)



    Catch my words to Bailiff for a bit of an explanation
    to my reticence?


    Uh-huh. You were playing with a new toy. Some people, once they've discovered the Internet, find it much more exciting than life in the slow lane and/or decide they don't have time for both. As Shiloh commented elsewhere, I think there is room for both in our lives. I use the Internet when Nora wants further information about something we've just read about. I use Fidonet when I've got her settled down for the night & I want to chat with my friends. :-)



    Oh and, aren't the Godless as welcome as those of us
    with... Um... "Spirit"?


    Citing the rules of the echo:

    No participants will be included or excluded on the basis of their
    vital statistics, ethnic origin, religious beliefs, medical history,
    and/or sexual preferences.


    Or, in a word, yes. We don't include or exclude anyone on the basis of their religion or lack thereof. That bit about proselytizing appears later in the rules & was added because a Christian of the fundamentalist/evangelical persuasion was overzealous in an attempt to convert the Unwashed Masses to her way of thinking. It wasn't her religion we objected to, but her determination to force it on others. Some folks regard atheism as a religion... some don't. Either way, AFAIC, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.... ;-)




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  • From James Bradley@1:342/77 to Ardith Hinton on Sun Jun 19 12:32:06 2011
    Ardith Hinton wrote to James Bradley <=-

    Hi again gorgeous!

    Who, me?? Shucks. Anyway, welcome back. We missed you....

    Aw... Sucks right back!

    I *still* need to swap fridges here, but I lost my keys while trying to
    affect that. Now I have something *else* to fret about. <Cha-G>

    [...] to my reticence?


    Uh-huh. You were playing with a new toy. Some people, once they've discovered the Internet, find it much more exciting
    than life in the slow lane and/or decide they don't have
    time for both. As Shiloh commented elsewhere, I think
    there is room for both in our lives. I use the Internet
    when Nora wants further information about something we've
    just read about. I use Fidonet when I've got her settled
    down for the night & I want to chat with my friends. :-)

    I'm sure I mentioned a *long* time ago - but I'll repeat myself for the benefit of those who don't know how nutty I can be <shy-G> - I had a gratis dial-up I-net account for about thirteen years. Most of that time was spent *trying* to keep Windows secure and up to date. Now that I can plug a
    router between me and that "nastyness", and use *only* Linux for my online chores, I feel MUCH more secure spending all my money on eBay. O-8*

    Oh and, aren't the Godless as welcome as those of us
    with... Um... "Spirit"?


    Citing the rules of the echo:

    No participants will be included or excluded on the basis of their
    vital statistics, ethnic origin, religious beliefs, medical
    history,
    and/or sexual preferences.

    You KNOW I was asking in rhetoric, right? <G+D> What the kid could learn
    from me about slipping under the radar *alone* would make his hair stand on end WITHOUT "product". <EG>

    [...] overzealous [...]
    Either way, AFAIC, what's sauce for the goose is
    sauce for the gander.... ;-)

    Oh, *so* glad to find the time to garner your thoughts again! <I SWEAR the
    new neighbours think I'm "off my rocker" for laughing so hard!>



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  • From James Bradley@1:342/77 to Ardith Hinton on Tue Jun 21 12:35:04 2011
    James Bradley to Ardith Hinton on 06-19-11 12:32 re: Secret part of the BBS

    Ardith Hinton wrote to James Bradley <=-

    Hi again gorgeous!

    Who, me?? Shucks. Anyway, welcome back. We missed you....

    Aw... Sucks right back!

    Typo: "*SHUCKS* right back!" I need to work on my proofreading skills. ]-:


    ... I'm not a complete idiot. Several parts are still missing.
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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to James Bradley on Tue Jun 21 14:42:19 2011
    Hi, James! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

    I *still* need to swap fridges here, but I lost my keys
    while trying to affect that. Now I have something *else*
    to fret about. <Cha-G>


    Hmm. In that regard, your loss is our gain.... :-Q



    I'm sure I mentioned a *long* time ago - but I'll repeat
    myself for the benefit of those who don't know how nutty
    I can be <shy-G> -


    And for those who know how nutty you can be, but may have forgotten or failed to grasp the technical details. Works for me... [chuckle].



    I had a gratis dial-up I-net account for about thirteen
    years.


    I thought you were using the public library but had some difficulty getting there... perhaps I drew a false analogy with Wayne from another echo.



    Most of that time was spent *trying* to keep Windows
    secure and up to date. Now that I can plug a router
    between me and that "nastyness", and use *only* Linux
    for my online chores, I feel MUCH more secure spending
    all my money on eBay. O-8*


    While I'm not a techie, I understand your unhappiness with Windows. From where I sit it appears that Linux is probably quite safe if only because so few people understand it. Same goes for Fidonet nowadays... anybody who's interested in finding out more about me has to know where & how to look. :-)



    Oh and, aren't the Godless as welcome as those of us
    with... Um... "Spirit"?

    [...]

    You KNOW I was asking in rhetoric, right? <G+D>


    A rhetorical question is asked for effect, not for information, and doesn't require an answer. I think you knew the answer already. But for the benefit of newcomers who might not be so clear on the concept, I explained it again in a somewhat different way. You've been here longer than anybody else except for Dallas & me... and you understand what we're trying to accomplish. If others are team-teaching effectively he doesn't need the big hammer. :-))



    What the kid could learn from me


    Steve isn't a kid... he's been posting in various Fidonet echoes for quite awhile. Shiloh is about the age you were when you started posting here. I'm not sure about Nathan, but I reckon your guess is as good as mine.... ;-)



    about slipping under the radar *alone* would make his
    hair stand on end WITHOUT "product". <EG>


    I imagine you & I could both go on at length about that. Meanwhile, give yourself a gold star for making me laugh! I really enjoy your tongue-in- cheek allusions to the whims of fashion & to the jargon of advertising. :-)))



    Either way, AFAIC, what's sauce for the goose is sauce
    for the gander.... ;-)

    Oh, *so* glad to find the time to garner your thoughts
    again! <I SWEAR the new neighbours think I'm "off my
    rocker" for laughing so hard!>


    Oops. Is my NT (preferred reasoning style) showing again?? Anyway, I'm glad you're glad! As for the neighbours... I guess you could say "You had to be there." But I doubt you're overly concerned about what they think. :-)




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  • From James Bradley@1:342/77 to Ardith Hinton on Thu Jun 23 23:51:08 2011
    Ardith Hinton to James Bradley on 06-21-11 14:42 re: Secret part of the BBS

    I *still* need to swap fridges here, but I lost my keys
    while trying to affect that. Now I have something *else*
    to fret about. <Cha-G>

    Hmm. In that regard, your loss is our gain.... :-Q

    NOT!!! I still need to find my keys! <LOL>

    I'm sure I mentioned a *long* time ago - but I'll repeat
    myself for the benefit of those who don't know how nutty
    I can be <shy-G> -

    And for those who know how nutty you can be, but may have forgotten or failed to grasp the technical details. Works for me... [chuckle].

    Ya... Let me remind you to my "depth". <ROTF>

    I had a gratis dial-up I-net account for about thirteen
    years.

    I thought you were using the public library but had some difficulty getting there... perhaps I drew a false analogy with Wayne
    from another echo.

    That's what I did too after my favor-for-a-favor time ran out in 2003. I was using a United Way sponsored setup in favor to the library (lack of) setup. I would go to the library if my stack of things-to-do extended past closing time to my preferred place. My aunt who had just retired as a librarian asked me, "What IT department?" (Yup... In rhetoric! ;-) when I was asking some simple questions about how that department was run, so I trusted them even *less* than I did until then.

    Most of that time was spent *trying* to keep Windows
    secure and up to date. Now that I can plug a router
    between me and that "nastyness", and use *only* Linux
    for my online chores, I feel MUCH more secure spending
    all my money on eBay. O-8*


    While I'm not a techie, I understand your unhappiness with Windows. From where I sit it appears that Linux is probably quite safe
    if only because so few people understand it. Same goes for Fidonet nowadays... anybody who's interested in finding out more about me has
    to know where & how to look. :-)

    Like I told an x-fighter jockey for the RCAF, "Take an internal modem and network interface card to your corner store to ask the first ten people you meet to identify each. THEN, I will allow you profess your ignorance *if* you get 10/10 correct answers."

    Linux *is* less secure today for exactly the reason you site, but it is *so* much harder to break into, and FAR less damage can be done once there. It's not impossible to get "nasty", just SO much more work for the malcontents for so little "gain". <scratching head>


    ...
    You KNOW I was asking in rhetoric, right? <G+D>


    A rhetorical question is asked for effect, not for
    information, and doesn't require an answer. I think you knew the
    answer already. But for the benefit of newcomers who might not be so clear on the concept, I explained it again in a somewhat different way.

    Oh... I forgot there were people that read and follow "rules". <G+cower ;->

    You've been here longer than anybody else except for Dallas & me...
    and you understand what we're trying to accomplish. If others are team-teaching effectively he doesn't need the big hammer. :-))

    As a blanket apology, I know how I was raised to push boundaries. Ignoring my recent typo, (Back to the old keyboard excuse AGAIN! I purchased a laptop with a busted lid hinge bracket for $70, and it's a "Breath on it just right, and it'll write for you" model. Now that I'm on my fido machine again, I have to *pound* the keys to attempt to get to my point.) I pray I was never too far from the "spirit" of the community you two built here, and if I was, I trust I wasn't too hard to lead back to enlightenment? My words to Shilo stand if so. I didn't notice Dallas wielding a big stick, and if he did, I barely noticed the gentle tap he administered to smarten me up.

    I used to read echo rules diligently, until I formed my code of conduct that I thought should be "acceptable". I talk in fido how I like to talk to the neighbours across our fence, and how I'd like to be talked to. "Don't be offensive, OR easily offended..." and all that good stuff. To quote Bonnie Rait, "I aint no porcupine. Take off your kid-gloves." should be my tagline too. I know I can be gruff and crass at times and I need to be more sensitive to others, but I *think* of myself as the guy too willing to lend my neighbour my garden hose if his house is on fire, but I'm not above giving him a hard time about it if it comes back all kinked up. <smile?>


    Steve isn't a kid... he's been posting in various Fidonet

    ... And I need to work on my "Oh ya?" attitude. <shy, mischievous G>

    echoes for quite awhile. Shiloh is about the age you were when you started posting here. I'm not sure about Nathan, but I reckon your
    guess is as good as mine.... ;-)

    I hope I don't scare them away with my bombastic attitude. Yes, I've shared laughs with Atheists and Agnostics as easily as Pastors, so I hope Steve is able to "consider the source" when he first read my words. For the record, I did today bark at my neighbour with levity about his grumpy nature, so I hope your new readers here can feel half as welcomed as you two have made me.

    about slipping under the radar *alone* would make his
    hair stand on end WITHOUT "product". <EG>

    I imagine you & I could both go on at length about that. Meanwhile, give yourself a gold star for making me laugh! I really
    enjoy your tongue-in- cheek allusions to the whims of fashion & to the jargon of advertising. :-)))

    Dad was a GREAT assessor of popular culture and intra-personal relations. I'm just as pleased as a pickle when I find someone who "gets" the smidgen of his humour I was able to adorn. Oh... Give Dallas a Happy belated Fathers Day for me. My Vancouver sister and I just exchanged a volley of HILARIOUS reminiscent emails about Dad and our upbringing in his honor. He had some bad traits, but MANY more good. Knowing what I know about you, I'm secure in calling your husband a "keeper".

    I should toss you her contact info, if I remember to mention you to her in August. My Calgary sister is being wed then, and I'll wager a drunken barn dance will break out so I might have to write it down before I remember to do so.

    Oh, *so* glad to find the time to garner your thoughts
    again! <I SWEAR the new neighbours think I'm "off my
    rocker" for laughing so hard!>


    Oops. Is my NT (preferred reasoning style) showing again?? Anyway, I'm glad you're glad! As for the neighbours... I guess you
    could say "You had to be there." But I doubt you're overly concerned about what they think. :-)

    Oh, if they had no grounds for their suspicion before this week, they were blind to the notion. <L> Despite my best efforts, my worst psych evaluation remains "Perhaps mildly paranoid." And that was after I BEGGED for their full treatment and before they sent me home to "convalesce". <ROTF>

    For the record - and in the interim from my last post - I *did* have to check my anger when discussing my medical complications to a person who was expressing nothing but compassion towards me. In my defence it took me MANY requests for her to stop before I turned immature in order to change the topic. So, even after twenty-years almost to the date, I *do* have to realize how tender my fragility is, but take heart others here. I'm learning that I have PLENTY left to learn about the muck we are all in.


    For Shilo (I don't recall seeing the other name you mentioned, but I missed reading a lot of the posts I downloaded.) and even the Godless Steve, (I have your new nickname, Steve. I hope you have thick enough skin?) I suffer from an iatrogenic fibroid neuroma. Once we settle back into our chairs behind a warm cup of tea and fuzzy slippers, I have no problems going through the details, but I trust we can have mutual respect for our emotions if things become "sensitive"?



    ... Don't be silly. We can't have everybody living happily ever after.-Horton,E.
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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to James Bradley on Tue Jul 12 23:20:55 2011
    Hi, James! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

    Typo: "*SHUCKS* right back!"


    I thought that was probably what you meant.... :-)



    I need to work on my proofreading skills. ]-:


    While you're at it, I'd suggest you look up "affect" and "effect". You may of course be aware of the difference already... but what often happens is that we see what we meant to write, not what we actually wrote. One way of getting around the problem is to do the opposite of what adult readers tend to do when they're reading for comprehension: i.e. slow down & focus on one word at a time. I do the latter when I want the right brain to keep quiet.... ;-)



    ... I'm not a complete idiot. Several parts are
    still missing.


    I got my act together, then forgot where I put it... [chuckle].




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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to James Bradley on Wed Jul 20 14:42:38 2011
    Hi, James! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

    You've been here longer than anybody else except for
    Dallas & me... and you understand what we're trying to
    accomplish. If others are team-teaching effectively he
    doesn't need the big hammer. :-))

    As a blanket apology, I know how I was raised to push
    boundaries.


    I wasn't. But I cheered inwardly for the teenager who... when asked how leukemia had affected his life... commented "I'm a lot mouthier now." ;-)



    I pray I was never too far from the "spirit" of the
    community you two built here, and if I was, I trust
    I wasn't too hard to lead back to enlightenment?


    Not at all! Survivors recognize one another. I see that in you. I see it in Richard. Yes, I do some gentle direction of subject matter at times ... but the apparent subject matter is a component of the larger picture. :-)



    My words to Shilo stand if so.


    I couldn't have said it better. Give yourself a gold star.... :-))



    I talk in fido how I like to talk to the neighbours
    across our fence, and how I'd like to be talked to.
    "Don't be offensive, OR easily offended..."


    Do as you would be did by. Makes sense to me.... :-)



    I know I can be gruff and crass at times and I need to
    be more sensitive to others, but I *think* of myself as
    the guy too willing to lend my neighbour my garden hose
    if his house is on fire, but I'm not above giving him
    a hard time about it if it comes back all kinked up.


    I call 'em the way I see 'em, just as you do. IMHO your heart is in the right place & you responded with awesome sensitivity to Shiloh. :-)



    ... And I need to work on my "Oh ya?" attitude.


    A certain amount of healthy skepticism is not amiss AFAIC, and Steve would appreciate that too. But he may be wondering what to make of us because we didn't run away screaming or try to correct his perceptions when he told us he's an atheist. I see some evidence of a Wounded Child there... as I imagine you do. We've dealt with similar issues here in the past. OTOH, I suppose he may be thinking... as one of our (now deceased) BBS users did... that we sound too much like the Care Bears to suit his preference. Over to you, Steve. ;-)



    I hope your new readers here can feel half as welcomed
    as you two have made me.


    Thankyou! I'm glad to hear you feel that way.... :-)




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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to James Bradley on Sat Jul 23 23:52:16 2011
    Hi, James! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

    I *still* need to swap fridges here, but I lost my keys
    while trying to affect that. Now I have something *else*
    to fret about. <Cha-G>

    Hmm. In that regard, your loss is our gain.... :-Q

    NOT!!! I still need to find my keys! <LOL>


    I'm not unsympathetic... but when you can't find your keys, you have more time to write. For selfish reasons I enjoy that. OTOH, I'm just as slow to answer. Mea culpa! If you just put them down somewhere & forgot where you put them I trust you'll have found them by now. If the cat found them first & decided they'd be fun to play with I hope you have spare keys in reserve. ;-)



    My aunt who had just retired as a librarian asked me,
    "What IT department?"


    I was teacher-librarian in a small school which couldn't afford even one computer until the parents had raised the money via bake sales etc. There was no chance of getting my hands on it, because classroom teachers always had first dibs. But as a volunteer in the library at Nora's elementary school and as a user of the Vancouver Public Library card catalogue I must confess that I still prefer the old-fashioned methods of record keeping in many ways.... :-)



    ... anybody who's interested in finding out more about me
    has to know where & how to look. :-)

    Like I told an x-fighter jockey for the RCAF, "Take an
    internal modem and network interface card to your corner
    store to ask the first ten people you meet to identify each.


    In my experience, you'd be lucky to find anybody who has a clue what you mean when you refer to a modem buddy! Twenty years ago people were asking me what the Internet was. Nowadays people don't know what a modem is.... :-Q



    It's not impossible to get "nasty", just SO much more work
    for the malcontents for so little "gain". <scratching head>


    Yup.... :-)



    Dad was a GREAT assessor of popular culture and intra-
    personal relations.


    Nature or nurture? At any rate, I like the way you do it. :-)



    My Vancouver sister and I just exchanged a volley of
    HILARIOUS reminiscent emails about Dad and our upbringing
    in his honor. He had some bad traits, but MANY more good.


    My father & I didn't always get along, but I'm grateful now for what he taught me. I reckon most people are probably a mixture of good & bad. :-)



    Knowing what I know about you, I'm secure in calling your
    husband a "keeper".


    In a word... yes. :-))



    I should toss you [the Vancouver sister's] contact info,
    if I remember to mention you to her in August.


    Sounds to me like a good idea. It would give us another way to keep in touch if some disaster occurred computerwise. Meanwhile, I read my netmail almost daily. I read my e-mail when the spirit moves.... :-)




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  • From James Bradley@1:342/77 to Ardith Hinton on Thu Aug 25 19:13:00 2011
    Ardith Hinton to James Bradley on 07-20-11 14:42 re: Behind the Scenes

    You've been here longer than anybody else except for
    Dallas & me... and you understand what we're trying to
    accomplish. If others are team-teaching effectively he
    doesn't need the big hammer. :-))

    As a blanket apology, I know how I was raised to push
    boundaries.


    I wasn't. But I cheered inwardly for the teenager who...
    when asked how leukemia had affected his life... commented "I'm
    a lot mouthier now." ;-)

    I remember hearing of him, [From you?] or I had a few lucid dreams where he figured prominently. If nothing else, our afflictions DID give us a voice. For some, it may remain hidden but an internal dialog is better than none at all, I suppose.


    I pray I was never too far from the "spirit" of the
    community you two built here, and if I was, I trust
    I wasn't too hard to lead back to enlightenment?


    Not at all! Survivors recognize one another. I
    see that in you. I see it in Richard. Yes, I do some
    gentle direction of subject matter at times
    ... but the apparent subject matter is a component of the larger
    picture. :-)

    Well, I'd like to think I can clue into topics omitted in discussions. I also respect that others might not possess that distinction. I DO need to work on my acceptance of others. Like AA I suppose, knowing I have that problem is always step one. [giggle]


    I talk in fido how I like to talk to the neighbours
    across our fence, and how I'd like to be talked to.
    "Don't be offensive, OR easily offended..."


    Do as you would be did by. Makes sense to me.... :-)

    Actually, a terrible example considering the neighbour that has JUST listed his house for sale. <LOL> Ah well. We'll see if he sells to a better person. ;)

    I know I can be gruff and crass at times and I need to
    be more sensitive to others, but I *think* of myself as
    the guy too willing to lend my neighbour my garden hose
    if his house is on fire, but I'm not above giving him
    a hard time about it if it comes back all kinked up.


    I call 'em the way I see 'em, just as you do.
    IMHO your heart is in the right place & you responded with
    awesome sensitivity to Shiloh. :-)

    [Wish I could remember now.] I think newcomers tend to overwhelmed with 300 messages, and never think they will keep up. THEN they hear me repeating myself over and over.... <EG>

    ... And I need to work on my "Oh ya?" attitude.


    A certain amount of healthy skepticism is not amiss AFAIC,
    and Steve would appreciate that too. But he may be wondering
    what to make of us because we didn't run away screaming or
    try to correct his perceptions when he told us he's an
    atheist. I see some evidence of a Wounded Child there...

    As you, or other regulars might imagine, I gravitated early to an alternative to the Judah Christian theology. I've always admired a N. American First Nation take on their "Creator" from the first time I learned about their beliefs. Lately I have found more information about it on the Internet, and have become a firm believer in its suggestions. (I just "watered" the laptop where I saved the URL, so it'll have to wait before I post it here.)

    as I imagine you do. We've dealt with similar issues here
    in the past. OTOH, I suppose he may be thinking... as one
    of our (now deceased) BBS users did... that we sound too
    much like the Care Bears to suit his preference. Over to
    you, Steve. ;-)

    I would imagine that if we don't beat an Atheist over the head with a John Smith (IF that's the Book Of Mormon, "author"?) book of fiction, that we couldn't be spiritual people.

    I'll paraphrase a new found text:

    The Red Road has four laws.
    Respect the Great Spirit.
    Respect the earth.
    Respect your fellow man and woman.
    Respect every persons' right to freedom provided it does not threaten the tribe, the earth, or the Great Spirit.



    I hope your new readers here can feel half as welcomed
    as you two have made me.


    Thankyou! I'm glad to hear you feel that way.... :-)

    In the spirit that I have always found fido in, I hope to help even a PORTION of how much I have been helped. That goes threefold here. (I KNOW the proportions stay the same, but.... ;-)


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  • From James Bradley@1:342/77 to Ardith Hinton on Thu Sep 15 12:48:02 2011
    Ardith Hinton to James Bradley on 07-23-11 23:52 re: Part of the BBS... 1.

    NOT!!! I still need to find my keys! <LOL>


    I'm not unsympathetic... but when you can't find your keys,
    you have more time to write. For selfish reasons I enjoy that.

    As you asked, I DO have a backup set of *almost* all the keys that I need. The rest, I CAN break into relatively easily. [EG]
    ...
    put them down somewhere & forgot where you put them I trust
    you'll have found them by now. If the cat found them first
    & decided they'd be fun to play with I hope you have spare
    keys in reserve. ;-)

    I suspect that because I had no pockets when I used them last, that they JUST ended up in the freezer. Now that they weren't there (I was fetching bread from an outdoor freezer at the time.) I expect they got buried or placed where I know they would not be found by the feline. <chuckle>

    PS: JUST found them, but two days after the city towed my vehicle. I should have looked in the coat pocket *first*. <LOL>

    ...
    I was teacher-librarian in a small school which couldn't
    afford even one computer until the parents had raised the money
    via bake sales etc. There was no chance of getting my
    hands on it, because classroom teachers always had first
    dibs. But as a volunteer in the library at Nora's
    elementary school and as a user of the Vancouver Public
    Library card catalogue I must confess that I still prefer
    the old-fashioned methods of record keeping in many
    ways.... :-)

    There are things I despise about a database look-up, but on the whole I confess to preferring it.

    ... anybody who's interested in finding out more about me
    has to know where & how to look. :-)

    Bloody hell that there *has* to be an issue about identity theft.

    ...
    In my experience, you'd be lucky to find anybody
    who has a clue what you mean when you refer to a modem
    buddy! Twenty years ago people were asking me what the
    Internet was. Nowadays people don't know what a modem
    is.... :-Q


    <ROTF> Technically, a cable or DSL Internet "box" *is* a modem.


    [RE: Pop culture/Interpersonal relations]
    Nature or nurture? At any rate, I like the way you do it.

    Shucks... Doin' what I can with the tools I gots. <giggle> Thanks!


    My Vancouver sister and I just exchanged a volley of
    HILARIOUS reminiscent emails about Dad and our upbringing
    in his honor. He had some bad traits, but MANY more good.

    My father & I didn't always get along, but I'm
    grateful now for what he taught me. I reckon most people
    are probably a mixture of good & bad. :-)

    Like most, I suspect we both realize how we could have listened better at times, and at other times how misguided *they* were. But who supports a hallo and does the devil have a spaded tail? We are ALL somewhere in between.

    ...
    I should toss you [the Vancouver sister's] contact info,
    if I remember to mention you to her in August.


    Sounds to me like a good idea. It would give us
    another way to keep in touch if some disaster occurred
    computerwise. Meanwhile, I read my netmail almost daily.
    I read my e-mail when the spirit moves.... :-)

    Oh, shoot!!! I DID mention this forum often throughout her visit last month, although I forgot to ask directly if she would like to chat with you individually. Her background in social work does have her talk too much, so maybe I'll give her your BBS phone number and node address to see if she figures it out. <EG>



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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to James Bradley on Sun Sep 25 23:12:29 2011
    Hi, James! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

    I talk in fido how I like to talk to the neighbours
    across our fence, and how I'd like to be talked to.
    "Don't be offensive, OR easily offended..."

    Do as you would be did by. Makes sense to me.... :-)

    Actually, a terrible example considering the neighbour
    that has JUST listed his house for sale. <LOL>


    OTOH... it may be a better example than you think. I figure we'll always have a certain percentage of people in our lives with whom we'd rather not associate at all, given the choice, but in most cases we can't choose our neighbours. When others treat us as we'd like to be treated and/or adhere to similar behavioural standards it's usually not so difficult to mirror what we see in them & feel good about ourselves at the same time. The real challenge comes when we feel we're dodging bullets, or when the nice lady from down the road wants to share her life story & we're en route to a medical appointment. As folks in recovery circles say, another d*mned learning experience.... ;-)


    On the subject of "staircase wit", BTW... i.e. a term French people use to describe situations in which the clever response we'd like to have made at the soirée occurs to us when we're returning home to our third-floor walkup or when some earnest attempt in FidoMail has already scanned out... I must say the same thing happens to teachers & band conductors. Imagine, if you will, a community band rehearsal in which we have to pack a lot into a couple of hours because we haven't met since June. With a few minutes remaining the conductor informs us he'd like to do a rubato... "and if you don't know what that means, look it up!" Or, as a returnee in the horn section responds, "Look Up." :-))




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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to James Bradley on Mon Oct 24 16:52:11 2011
    Hi, James! This is a belated continuation of a previous reply to you:

    Oh, *so* glad to find the time to garner your thoughts
    again! <I SWEAR the new neighbours think I'm "off my
    rocker" for laughing so hard!>


    Aww, shucks! You make me laugh too. I enjoy that... [grin].



    As for the neighbours... I guess you could say "You
    had to be there." But I doubt you're overly concerned
    about what they think. :-)

    Oh, if they had no grounds for their suspicion before
    this week, they were blind to the notion. <L> Despite
    my best efforts, my worst psych evaluation remains
    "Perhaps mildly paranoid."


    My psych evaluation, which I sought years ago when my future parents-
    in-law thought I was crazy because my point of view didn't coincide with theirs ... was that I was sane & I understood myself quite well. I guess I understood
    myself better than they did. We may both seem a bit neurotic at times. So who
    doesn't? "Trust in Allah, but tie your camel." I can relate to that.... :-))



    And that was after I BEGGED for their full treatment and
    before they sent me home to "convalesce". <ROTF>


    A warm cup of tea & fuzzy slippers or a good view of the mountains or
    a bit of time in the garden can go a long way.... :-)



    For the record - and in the interim from my last post -
    I *did* have to check my anger when discussing my medical
    complications to a person who was expressing nothing but
    compassion towards me. In my defence it took me MANY
    requests for her to stop before I turned immature in
    order to change the topic.


    Sounds to me like the social worker (probably an NF, IMHO) who visits
    us from time to time. While she has oodles of empathy she can't get it through
    her head that the bus nearest where we live is not wheelchair accessible... and
    in the end she admits she has nothing to offer which would suit our needs. :-(



    So, even after twenty-years almost to the date, I *do*
    have to realize how tender my fragility is, but take
    heart others here. I'm learning that I have PLENTY left
    to learn about the muck we are all in.


    And after a similar length of time dealing with related issues I hear
    what you're saying! Many years ago I was told an appealing but apocryphal tale
    of how Alexander the Great wept because "there were no more worlds to conquer".
    According to a biography Nora & I just finished, he recognized somewhere around
    the area of modern-day Afghanistan that he'd be out of his depth if he went any
    further east... and that while one of his tutors (Aristotle) had assured him of
    the existence of other worlds he didn't know how to get there. WRT the sort of
    subject matter you & I are interested in there is always more to be learned. I
    think it's great that we have such opportunities to keep our minds active. :-)



    I don't recall seeing the other name you mentioned, but
    I missed reading a lot of the posts I downloaded.


    Nathan? Based on what he's said here & in various other echoes, I'm inclined to think his interest leans more toward adding echoes to his BBS than toward devoting sustained attention to the content. Over to you, Nathan. ;-)



    and even the Godless Steve, (I have your new nickname,
    Steve. I hope you have thick enough skin?) I suffer from
    an iatrogenic fibroid neuroma. Once we settle back into
    our chairs behind a warm cup of tea and fuzzy slippers, I
    have no problems going through the details, but I trust we
    can have mutual respect for our emotions if things become
    "sensitive"?


    As others have done here. Sounds good to me.... :-)




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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to ARDITH HINTON on Sat Mar 3 02:39:00 2018
    Ardith,

    Seems this is the end.

    Yes, but "the end" is a moving target here.... ;-)

    Just what I need...a bullseye on my backside. :P Or maybe that's not a
    bad idea for when I undergo the colonoscopy this year. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to ARDITH HINTON on Sat Mar 3 02:40:00 2018
    Ardith,

    No participants will be included or excluded on the basis of their
    vital statistics, ethnic origin, religious beliefs, medical history,
    and/or sexual preferences.

    Or as Linus Van Pelt noted..."There are 3 things I don't discuss with
    people. Religion, Politics, and The Great Pumpkin". <G>

    Daryl

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