SH> 1. For the second time in two months, Obama goes to
SH> Copenhagen and comes home empty handed - no Chicago
SH> Olympics and no "global climate change" agreement. For

It's truly pitiful that anyone calling himself an American

Have you lost a foot yet? You know that's coming, right, No Neck?

Doesn't matter. He lacks all self-control and cannot do anything
about it. He cannot follow basic rules of behavior. Even when he EC>creates his own little room where he can sit and mutter at people, he EC>cannot control himself. He just has to venture out for, by
unofficial count, the ninth time to post now where he is banned. He EC>cannot follow his own rules, he cannot follow echo rules, and he
cannot follow Shannon's rules.

He pulls messages from other echoes into his own little world over there
and posts replies to them. Odd behavior.


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Jeff Binkley -> Earl Croasmun wrote:

1. For the second time in two months, Obama goes to
Copenhagen and comes home empty handed - no Chicago
Olympics and no "global climate change" agreement. For

It's truly pitiful that anyone calling himself an American

Have you lost a foot yet? You know that's coming, right, No Neck?

Doesn't matter. He lacks all self-control and cannot do anything
about it. He cannot follow basic rules of behavior. Even when he
creates his own little room where he can sit and mutter at people, he
cannot control himself. He just has to venture out for, by
unofficial count, the ninth time to post now where he is banned. He
cannot follow his own rules, he cannot follow echo rules, and he
cannot follow Shannon's rules.

He pulls messages from other echoes into his own little world over there and posts replies to them. Odd behavior.

Even odder is his gushing sycophant Wilson lapping it all up like the idiot actually has something worth saying.

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Paul Greenberg :


Oh, Yes, Copenhagen - Townhall.com


The other day a friend asked us if I'd written about the Copenhagen
conference on climate change, carbon control, environmental technology,
the ecological future of Spaceship Earth, cabbages and kings, and the
101 other Very Important Things covered by that huge, long-awaited and now suddenly fizzled international gabfest.


No, I hadn't written about it. Maybe because it ended not with a bang
but with a whimper heard 'round the world: a flurry of non-binding
agreements, aka vague misunderstandings. It was the biggest anticlimax since Geraldo the Great Rivera opened Al Capone's vault to find little more than dust.


Any actual policies to come out of Copenhagen promise to be as empty.


To sum up the essential deal made at Copenhagen: The developed world
sort of promises to give the undeveloped one $30 billion over the next three years -- plus $100 billion a year after 2020 -- in exchange for its
separate but equally nebulous promise not to develop too quickly. As
with Obamacare, the theoretical benefits are to come first, then the real
pain by some always-delayable deadline. It's more convenient that way. Just charge it to some future generation.


Besides the cocksure confidence the delegates displayed in man's ability
to reset the world's thermostat, this kind of deal-making in which no
one takes the deal made very seriously was the one consistent thread in the tangled web woven at Copenhagen.


There is consolation to be taken in the grand fizzle at Copenhagen. For
there is something worse than the conference's failure. And that would
have been its success at slowing the world's economic recovery and so
dooming still more in the Third World to the bitter fruits of abject
poverty: more malnutrition, more disease, and more chaos and instability
in general.


Doing nothing has certain advantages over doing the wrong thing,
especially on a grand and confusing scale. Besides, the failure of this
lavish conference means the delegates can now anticipate many more
equally elaborate confabs around the world on the public's tab, complete with equally hyped media coverage and just as inconsequential results. Nice
work -- or play -- if you can get it.


Maybe I hadn't written anything of substance about the grand conference
at Copenhagen because it proved so insubstantial. My long established
policy is, when I have nothing to say about a subject, I try not to say it.


Maybe because I've read too many editorials over the years that, having
nothing to say, make the grave mistake of saying it. At length. It doesn't exactly make for fascinating reading.


There were doubtless plenty of agreements made at Copenhagen but the
major ones were non-binding. Those are the kind of deals that delegates
embrace enthusiastically in their speeches but take care not to sign lest
their countries be held to their word. They're the kind of oral agreements
that the irrepressible Sam Goldwyn, Hollywood mogul and Mr. Malaprop himself, once described as not worth the paper they're written on. Or rather not
written on.


Almost coincident with the grand conference at Copenhagen a treasure
trove of leaked documents appeared out of the very center of global alarmism over climate change, the Climatic Research Unit of East Anglia
University at Norwich, England, which is "widely recognized as one of the world's leading institutions concerned with the study of natural and anthropogenic climate change," according to its Web site. These days it's widely recognized as a center for the suppression of any and all dissenting views about the causes of global warming. If this is science, what would dogma be?


Conspiracies to suppress scientific dissent scarcely ended with
Galileo's trial, but at least the church eventually repented and begged
pardon.


There is little if any sign that the wannabe Al Gores at East Anglia,
more politicians than scientists, have been chastened by what's come to be known as Climategate. Instead, they have adopted a variation of the Dan
Rather defense: falsified maybe but accurate.


Barack Obama's appearance at the last minute was the final, flashy touch
at Copenhagen as he made much ado about much of nothing. The president
hasn't demonstrated his diplomatic finesse so convincingly since he went
to the same city not long ago to not get the Olympics for Chicago. Which
may have been a blessing in disguise, too. (The traffic in the Loop is
already bad enough.)


Naturally the president and his handlers came back from Copenhagen
declaring a great victory -- Carbon Control in our Time! But surely even
they didn't believe it. Certainly the Europeans didn't. As soon as the
Grand Conference concluded, the market for carbon-control permits on the European continent dropped dramatically, as if investors were confirming
that the countries represented at Copenhagen weren't serious about
controlling carbon emissions. No poll is more reliable than the market,
where people put their money where their opinions are. It's a great test
of sincerity.


The final accord at Copenhagen didn't specify, not in writing, how much
big countries like the United States and mainland China are now supposed
to reduce their carbon emissions. Nor did the conference decide
precisely how much all the other countries were going to sacrifice in order to clean up the world's climate. Just about the only thing the delegates could agree on was to jet off to the next world climate-change conference,
which is already scheduled for Mexico City, the one sure effect of which will be to add still more carbon to the Earth's atmosphere.



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Phyllis Schlafly :


Ten New Reasons Why Obamacare Can Still Be Killed - Townhall.com



New reasons emerge almost daily as to why Obamacare can and must be
defeated.


1. The American people oppose Obamacare by almost two to one in the
latest CNN poll. Other polls show lopsided opposition to passing either the Senate or House health care bill.


Public opinion is against the bill because of its obscene costs in
higher taxes, burdensome debt, anti-freedom mandates, rationing and reduced care for seniors. The American people have awakened to the fact that
Obamacare is transformational legislation that will drag us against popular will into European-style socialism.


2. The Democrats' double-counting of Obamacare's financial benefits has
been exposed as a colossal lie. Harry Reid told the Senate that his bill strengthens our future by both "cutting our towering national deficit by
as much as $1.3 trillion over the next 20 years" AND "strengthening
Medicare and extending its life by nearly a decade."


The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) refuted that assertion. CBO said
the claim that Obamacare would provide these benefits simultaneously "would essentially double-count a large share of those savings and thus
overstate the improvement in the government's fiscal position."


3. Obamacare is unconstitutional because of its mandate that all
individuals must carry "approved" health insurance and all businesses
must give health insurance to their employees whether or not the company can afford it. "Universal" coverage will be enforced by the Internal Revenue Service with power to punish those who don't have such a plan.
Constitutional lawyers point out that the Commerce Clause does not give Congress the authority to force Americans to buy health insurance as a condition of living in our country because personal health insurance is
not "commerce." The CBO wrote that "a mandate requiring all individuals
to purchase health insurance would be an unprecedented form of federal
action"; the Supreme Court has never upheld any requirement that an
individual must participate in economic activity.


4. Since the Senate bill imposes sharp limits on health-insurance
companies' ability to raise fees or exclude coverage, it likely will
force many of them out of business. Obamacare is unconstitutional because it violates the Bill of Rights protections against takings without just compensation and deprivation of property without due process of law.


5. Other Obamacare provisions blatantly legislate racial and other forms
of discrimination. The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights sent two letters
to the president and congressional leaders warning about the obnoxious requirements for racist and sexist quotas.


The Senate bill requires that "priority" for federal grants be given to institutions offering "preferential" admissions to minorities (race,
national origin, sex, sexual orientation and religion). Institutions
training social workers, psychologists, psychiatrists, behavioral pediatricians, psychiatric nurses and counselors will be ineligible for
federal grants unless they enroll "individuals and groups from different racial, ethnic, cultural, geographic, religious, linguistic and class backgrounds, and different genders and sexual orientations."


6. Obama's claim that "everybody" will now be covered creates few
winners but lots of losers. Universal health insurance will be achieved by forcing young people to pay the additional costs (insurance for the youngest third of the population would rise by 35 percent), and by restricting and rationing care for the elderly.


7. According to Robert Samuelson in The Washington Post, the "wild card
is immigration." From 1999 to 2008, 60 percent of the increase in the
uninsured occurred among Hispanics, and Obama's refusal to close our
borders will make this problem more costly every year.


8. Obamacare gives Medicare bureaucrats the power to ration health care
by forcing doctors to prescribe cheaper medical devices and drugs. In the recent case of Hays v. Sebelius, the court ruled that Medicare doesn't
have the right to make this rule, but Obamacare takes jurisdiction away
from the courts to hear any appeal from decisions of the new Medicare Commission.


The "stick" applied to primary-care doctors is imposing financial
penalties if they refer too many patients to specialists. The "carrot"
is financial rewards to doctors who give up small practices and consolidate into larger medical groups or become salaried employees of hospitals or
other large institutions.


9. The Senate bill contains at least a dozen of what can be described as bribes. Sen. Mary Landrieu received a $300 million increase in Medicaid
funding for her state (known as the Second Louisiana Purchase), and a
$100 million bribe to Sen. Ben Nelson gives Nebraska a permanent exemption
from the costs of Medicaid expansion.


10. The Senate bill even has a four-page section artfully written to
enable ACORN to get federal health care grants. This section describes
grant recipients as "community and consumer-focused nonprofit groups"
having "existing relationships ... with uninsured and underinsured
consumers."





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David Limbaugh : It's Not the Economy, Stupid! It's National Survival! -


Townhall.com


The Washington Post's Dan Balz thinks that "with new priorities, Obama
and Democrats can recover in 2010." Sorry, Dan; it's about more than priorities. It's a matter of their worldview.


Balz dutifully cites "the size of the problems President Obama
inherited" and "the battles he chose to take on during his first year" as mitigating factors that may lead to the public's understanding and allow Obama an opportunity to hit "the reset button."


Balz says Obama's advisers believe he can "pivot" in the first few
months of 2010 and restore his standing with the American people. Balz offers four "elements" that "might allow that to happen": refocus on the
economy; move Congress offstage; get serious about the deficit and spending; and avoid overloading the circuits.


Let's briefly examine Balz's analysis -- an analysis that is doubtlessly typical for Beltway media elites.


First, Obama's free-falling approval ratings are not a result of
problems he inherited. How long are he and his liberal media shills going to milk this "blame Bush" mantra like a bunch of reprobate school kids? Balz is onto something, however, in citing "the battles he chose to take on
during his first year." But he's wrong that it is a mitigating factor.


Let me throw out something that's a bit counterintuitive. I don't
believe the public has lost faith in Obama over the economy. And the public's angst is about more than just its losing faith in him.


The public is scared to death -- not about the ebbs and flows of the
economy in the short term, but about the very survival of the country -- because of the reckless spending policies Obama is deliberately pursuing
and the other "elements" of his destructive agenda to remake America in
his image -- including going soft on terrorism.


What Balz needs to get through his head -- and then share with his
impervious colleagues -- is that Obama didn't undertake his radical
agenda to turn America into a full-blown socialist state because of "the size of the problems (he) inherited." That was just a convenient excuse.


He has been groomed, mentored and polished for this very task since he
was a little boy. He is taking out his grudge against America, an America he views as fundamentally unfair, inequitable, imperialistic and
exploitive, but as a powerful resource for change -- if only he can fundamentally transform it.


I might remind Mr. Balz that Obama's agenda didn't significantly change
with the unfolding of the financial crisis that led to TARP. He has had
his sights on a single-payer health care system for years. He had plans
to "spread the wealth around" long before TARP became an acronym. He and
his wife were trashing America as arrogant and dismissive long before this economic crisis fell into their laps just months before the 2008
election.


So, yes, Obama's standing with the American people is related to "the
battles he chose to take on during his first year," but not in a
positive way. Those battles don't qualify as mitigating factors, Mr. Balz, because they were undertaken not to improve the economy, but to consummate, in substance, a Cold War victory for the communists after they had
otherwise been defeated.


The fainthearted among us can blanch at the suggestion that Obama is a
Marxist -- and accuse me of name-calling or incivility -- but my
intention is not to inflame. It is to communicate the truth in accurate terms to help people understand the magnitude of the threat we face by this
assault on our liberties.


Obama didn't impose his Draconian stimulus bill or omnibus spending
bills to jump-start the economy. He did it to transfer wealth and establish slush funds for re-election. He didn't push cap and trade to reduce
"global warming," but to bring America down to size with the
"underdeveloped" nations of the world. He didn't obsessively promote
Obamacare to improve the economy, "bend the cost curve" (what a joke!),
achieve universal coverage or improve the quality of health care. He did
it to amplify the federal government's power over all aspects of our
lives.


Mr. Balz, wake up. Obama isn't even trying to "get serious about the
deficit and spending." That's a cruel ruse. Look at his projected
deficits in the out-years. He is planning on deficits in excess of a trillion dollars from here forward, even after the economy fully recovers.
The country cannot sustain this. The public knows it and is outraged and horrified by it. Our children cannot live in freedom if this insane recklessness is not stopped. It's not about the economy, stupid! It's
about the survival of this great nation.





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On 07/29/2010 07:31 PM, Ross Sauer -> Jeff Binkley wrote:

"Jeff Binkley -> Ross Sauer" <1:226/600> wrote in news:9344$ALL- POLITICS@JamNNTPd:

whether Obama will make it long enough before he has an
investigation which will get him tossed. The Dems fear
November because if the Republicans take back control,
there are certain to be investigations.

There need to be investigations of Bush administration
corruption. Start with $8.7 Bill the defense dept lost.

The Sludge Misreport has their priorities right on this story.
The site linked to an AP article about the missing money, (and if
anyone believes that's all the money that was stolen, I've got a
bridge in Brooklyn to sell you,) the article made clear it was the
Bush misadministration that lost all that money.
But what picture does Sludge run with the story?
Obama and Gates.

As to investigations, that's all the GOP wants to do if they can

get

power back in November, Michelle Bachmann said it flat out.

We'll end up with a repeat of the 1990's, when republicans were
"investigating" the Clinton White House over their Christmas card
list, their cat, any and every rumor or innuendo.

Excellent. That will keep BO too busy to push his far left agenda and
allow the country the necessary time to heal.

"Heal?"

Yes, heal. The deficit is over $1T now.

It'll take *DECADES* to repair the damage your boy Bush and his goons
did.

What damage was that?

But that's typical of the right-wing nowadays.
"Screw the whole country, as long as we can play petty politics and get fat tax breaks and no-bid government contracts for the richest."

You have the talking points down pretty good. The Bush tax cuts were across the
board, but since you pay no taxes, you wouldn't know that. All you can do is regurgitate the left-wing propaganda.

All you want is a distraction, a diversion from the fact that the GOP,
and especially the Bush misadministration screwed up *EVERYTHING* they touched, from 2001 on.

Really? Give us some evidence beyond what George Soros has fed you.

Even Arlington cemetary was botched by cronyism, corruption and incompetence.

And that is Bush's or the Republicans' fault exactly how?

And all you and your boys can put out is propaganda.

Speaking of propaganda... that's all you have is left-wing garbage fed you by George Soros and his proxies.

Ed

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whether Obama will make it long enough before he has an
investigation which will get him tossed. The Dems fear
November because if the Republicans take back control,
there are certain to be investigations.

There need to be investigations of Bush administration
corruption. Start with $8.7 Bill the defense dept lost.

The Sludge Misreport has their priorities right on this story.
The site linked to an AP article about the missing money, (and
if anyone believes that's all the money that was stolen, I've
got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you,) the article made clear
it was the Bush misadministration that lost all that money.
But what picture does Sludge run with the story?
Obama and Gates.

As to investigations, that's all the GOP wants to do if they

can get

power back in November, Michelle Bachmann said it flat out.

We'll end up with a repeat of the 1990's, when republicans
were "investigating" the Clinton White House over their
Christmas card list, their cat, any and every rumor or
innuendo.

Excellent. That will keep BO too busy to push his far left
agenda and allow the country the necessary time to heal.

"Heal?"

Yes, heal. The deficit is over $1T now.

I always know how to get a rise out of him.

It'll take *DECADES* to repair the damage your boy Bush and his
goons did.

What damage was that?

But that's typical of the right-wing nowadays.
"Screw the whole country, as long as we can play petty politics
and get fat tax breaks and no-bid government contracts for the richest."

You have the talking points down pretty good. The Bush tax cuts were EH>across the board, but since you pay no taxes, you wouldn't know that.
All you can do is regurgitate the left-wing propaganda.

All you want is a distraction, a diversion from the fact that
the GOP, and especially the Bush misadministration screwed up *EVERYTHING* they touched, from 2001 on.

Really? Give us some evidence beyond what George Soros has fed you.

Even Arlington cemetary was botched by cronyism, corruption and incompetence.

And that is Bush's or the Republicans' fault exactly how?

And all you and your boys can put out is propaganda.

Speaking of propaganda... that's all you have is left-wing garbage
fed you by George Soros and his proxies.

Yep. Obama and the Dems may become responsible for presiding over the
largest tax increase in history and a tax increase during a recession.
Both are firsts but we are getting accustomed to new lows with them
everyday.


Jeff

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On 07/30/2010 01:56 AM, Jeff Binkley -> Ed Hulett wrote:

whether Obama will make it long enough before he has an
investigation which will get him tossed. The Dems fear
November because if the Republicans take back control,
there are certain to be investigations.

There need to be investigations of Bush administration
corruption. Start with $8.7 Bill the defense dept lost.

The Sludge Misreport has their priorities right on this story.
The site linked to an AP article about the missing money, (and
if anyone believes that's all the money that was stolen, I've
got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you,) the article made clear
it was the Bush misadministration that lost all that money.
But what picture does Sludge run with the story?
Obama and Gates.

As to investigations, that's all the GOP wants to do if they

can get

power back in November, Michelle Bachmann said it flat out.

We'll end up with a repeat of the 1990's, when republicans
were "investigating" the Clinton White House over their
Christmas card list, their cat, any and every rumor or
innuendo.

Excellent. That will keep BO too busy to push his far left
agenda and allow the country the necessary time to heal.

"Heal?"

Yes, heal. The deficit is over $1T now.

I always know how to get a rise out of him.

He doesn't know when he is owned.

It'll take *DECADES* to repair the damage your boy Bush and his
goons did.

What damage was that?

But that's typical of the right-wing nowadays.
"Screw the whole country, as long as we can play petty politics
and get fat tax breaks and no-bid government contracts for the
richest."

You have the talking points down pretty good. The Bush tax cuts were
across the board, but since you pay no taxes, you wouldn't know that.
All you can do is regurgitate the left-wing propaganda.

All you want is a distraction, a diversion from the fact that
the GOP, and especially the Bush misadministration screwed up
*EVERYTHING* they touched, from 2001 on.

Really? Give us some evidence beyond what George Soros has fed you.

Even Arlington cemetary was botched by cronyism, corruption and
incompetence.

And that is Bush's or the Republicans' fault exactly how?

And all you and your boys can put out is propaganda.

Speaking of propaganda... that's all you have is left-wing garbage
fed you by George Soros and his proxies.

Yep. Obama and the Dems may become responsible for presiding over the largest tax increase in history and a tax increase during a recession. Both are firsts but we are getting accustomed to new lows with them everyday.

It's interesting how since the Bush tax cuts were passed they were referred to as only applying to "the wealthiest." Now, as they are about to expire, many Dems are admitting that much of the cuts were for lower and middle class families and if left to expire would effect them the hardest. Of course, there are still those on the left who think increased taxes on the upper income brackets would make those earners "pay their fair share." Class warfare is the last resort of scoundrels and the Dems are among the biggest of scoundrels.

Ed

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