• WTF

    From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to JEFF BINKLEY on Sun Oct 24 07:18:00 2010
    On 10-23-10, JEFF BINKLEY said to TIM RICHARDSON:




    crapola. I politely said I wasn't interested and they were polite, TR>RS>said "Thank you," and moved on to another passenger.


    Wait!!!!!! You mean you didn't jump up and slap the nearest one to
    you! Like you slapped that minister in his own church? In front of
    his congregation?


    It was either an off day for him or he really was afraid. Of course the JB>more believable explanation is that it never happened.


    Like all those plane crashes he witnessed first-hand? Thats what I was thinking.


    But.....give him a chance, here. He's gonna explain what he was doing in a church to begin with any time now. No....really!


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  • From Stan Hardegree@1:123/789 to Jeff Binkley on Sun Oct 24 20:17:51 2010
    They approached me, turned out they were from a church group and TR>RS>they were asking me about Jesus being my savior and the usual TR>RS>crapola. I politely said I wasn't interested and they were polite, TR>RS>said "Thank you," and moved on to another passenger.

    Wait!!!!!! You mean you didn't jump up and slap the nearest one to
    you! Like you slapped that minister in his own church? In front of
    his congregation?

    It was either an off day for him or he really was afraid. Of course the more believable explanation is that it never happened.

    It never happened.

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  • From BOB KLAHN@1:123/140 to ED HULETT on Sun Oct 24 22:43:06 2010

    ...

    They approached me, turned out they were from a church group and they
    were asking me about Jesus being my savior and the usual crapola.

    ...

    Lovely story, but for some reason I don't believe it. Call
    it experience gained

    You don't believe young black men might be evangelizing?

    Did I think I was going to be hassled? Maybe robbed and/or assaulted?
    I'd be lying if I said no.
    I did think so until they started their spiel.

    So, if we are to believe your story, you were nervous with
    the appearance of young blacks in, as you called it
    "'gangsta' outfits" yet you claim Juan Williams is, for
    better words, a terrible person for being nervous about a
    group dressed in traditional Muslim attire?

    What is traditional Muslim attire?

    Bet no one in either of these echos can define it.

    ...

    Have you read any of Juan Williams' books? Did you know he
    has been intimately involved in the civil rights movement
    for decades?

    Has he spent one day in the movement for civil rights for
    Muslims?

    It's racism, religious hatred, and white supremacism.

    I'm sure Juan Williams would get a laugh out of that
    comment.

    Maybe. Maybe he caught on to what he did wrong. Maybe not.


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  • From Earl Croasmun@1:124/311 to Ross Sauer on Fri Oct 22 08:23:00 2010
    You havent said a single word about Juan williams being canned.

    Why should I?
    While anti-Muslim stereotypes are the norm and encouraged at Faux "news,"
    at NPR they are verboten.

    You mean stereotypes like this from Jesse Jackson? ""There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and
    hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery," Jackson told the
    audience. "Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. . .
    . After all we have been through," he said. "Just to think we can't walk
    down our own streets, how humiliating.""

    Or President Obama's grandmother, "a woman who once confessed her fear of
    black men who passed by her on the street?" "The point I was making was
    not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she
    is a typical white person who, uh, if she sees somebody on the street that
    she doesn't know there's a reaction that's been been bred into our
    experiences that don't go away"

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  • From Ross Sauer@1:123/789 to Earl Croasmun on Fri Oct 22 14:09:56 2010
    "Earl Croasmun -> Ross Sauer" <1:124/311> wrote in news:15194$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    You havent said a single word about Juan williams being
    canned.

    Why should I?
    While anti-Muslim stereotypes are the norm and encouraged at Faux
    "news," ~> at NPR they are verboten.

    You mean stereotypes like this from Jesse Jackson? ""There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the
    street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery," Jackson
    told the audience. "Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. . .
    After all we have been through," he said. "Just to think we can't
    walk
    down our own streets, how humiliating.""

    Or President Obama's grandmother, "a woman who once confessed her fear
    of black men who passed by her on the street?" "The point I was
    making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person who, uh, if she sees
    somebody on the street that she doesn't know there's a reaction that's been been bred into our experiences that don't go away"

    All of us have those irrational fears.

    A few years ago, 4 or 5 black kids got on a city bus, I was riding on.
    They were wearing the "gangsta" outfit, complete with backwards caps and
    baggy pants.

    They approached me, turned out they were from a church group and they
    were asking me about Jesus being my savior and the usual crapola.
    I politely said I wasn't interested and they were polite, said "Thank
    you," and moved on to another passenger.

    Did I think I was going to be hassled? Maybe robbed and/or assaulted?
    I'd be lying if I said no.
    I did think so until they started their spiel.

    So a black guy comes up with this vague notion of "Muslim garb,"
    (whatever the hell it is,) ignoring the fact that all of the 9-11
    hijackers, and all the attempted terrorists here in the US wore the same clothes all the rest of us wear.
    "He looks Muslim, I'm scared, oogie oogie oogie..."

    It's just another example of the right-wing meme, "He/She looks
    different, so they must be 'the Other' that Glenn Beck told me to be
    scared of."

    It's racism, religious hatred, and white supremacism.

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  • From Earl Croasmun@1:124/311 to Ross Sauer on Fri Oct 22 14:27:54 2010
    All of us have those irrational fears.
    A few years ago, 4 or 5 black kids got on a city bus, I was riding on.
    They were wearing the "gangsta" outfit, complete with backwards caps and baggy pants.

    They approached me, turned out they were from a church group and they
    were asking me about Jesus being my savior and the usual crapola.
    I politely said I wasn't interested and they were polite, said "Thank
    you," and moved on to another passenger.

    Did I think I was going to be hassled? Maybe robbed and/or assaulted?
    I'd be lying if I said no.
    I did think so until they started their spiel.

    Good thing you don't work for National Public Radio. You'd be unemployed now.


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  • From Ross Cassell@1:123/456 to Ross Sauer on Fri Oct 22 17:16:33 2010
    Hello Ross!

    22 Oct 10 14:09, you wrote to Earl Croasmun:

    All of us have those irrational fears.

    This is the only point you needed to make or concede.

    For the first 24 years of my existence, I lived in the suburbs of Washington DC, I was as the crow flies no more than 10 miles outside of the District Of Columbia, I lived, worked and partied usually within a mile or so of the Capital Beltway, with the beltway running alongside my High School, when I was in school.

    I have been in the District more time than you can shake a stick at, visiting all the usual places, the Smithsonian, The Capitol, the Supreme Court, other Federal Buildings and I have been inside the White House on several occasions for field trips, during the Nixon and Then Ford years.

    The entire DC area is a multi-cultural melting pot..

    1. First you literally have a good cross section of the country living there, due to it being the seat of the Federal Govt, govt contractors, lobbyists and
    legislative delegates.

    2. Foreign diplomats working for and representing the interests of their countries, they all seemed to like the McLean area of Va.

    I used to see all types walking around the shopping malls (Tysons Corner, Fair Oaks) and other public places in the wildest garb I had seen, they all wreak of
    BO covered up with perfume and had more money than they knew what to do with. Back then I worked for Kmart, many would come in to buy stuff and all were exempted from paying local sales tax via a US State Dept issued card. Outside of their weird garb and smelly odor, I paid them no attention..

    If I still lived up there post 9-11, I cannot honestly tell you that I would be
    so willing to pass them off as just part of the ordinary scenery like I had done before.

    *IT* might not be right but sorry bucko, that is the way it is..

    Williams simply voiced a fear, he was no more a bigot than you are a Christian.

    Speaking of Christianity, NPR talking heads have said alot worse about Christians and did nothing.

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Ross Sauer on Fri Oct 22 19:20:34 2010
    On 10/21/2010 08:25 PM, Ross Sauer -> Ross Cassell wrote:
    "Ross Cassell -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/456> wrote in news:10772$ALL- POLITICS@JamNNTPd:

    Hello Ross!

    Where is the screed you write whenever a talking head says something
    improper about a class of people.

    You havent said a single word about Juan williams being canned.

    Why should I?

    Because you can't help yourself.

    While anti-Muslim stereotypes are the norm and encouraged at Faux "news," at NPR they are verboten.

    What "anti-Muslim stereotype" did Juan use?

    I'll help you, he didn't. He said he gets nervous when he sees people dressed in Muslim garb get on the same plane as he does. He then followed that by saying he shouldn't, but it happened because of our recent history with various
    Muslims. It's like someone saying they get nervous when they see a group of young black men coming toward them on an otherwise deserted street. It isn't being a bigot or using "stereotypes", it is reality. Juan was being honest and giving his own feelings of how Muslim terrorism has effected him. He didn't say
    it was how all people should react, but it is reality that a majority of Americans would react similarly.

    This is between NPR and a guy who broke his contract and got fired.

    He didn't brake his contract, idiot, NPR terminated it.

    When will Nina Tautenberg be leaving? I know your gurus at MMFA are calling for
    Maura Liasson to be the next one to go merely for being on Fox.

    If Bill O'Reilly said all blacks were drug thugs, liked watermelons and welfare, Williams would have slugged O'Reilly. At the very least cussed O'Reilly out.

    Uhhh... O'Reilly didn't say all [any group] did anything. He said "Muslims killed us on 9/11..." not all Muslims, just Muslims. If Atta and his crew weren't Muslim, what were they?

    But it's ok for a black guy to spout vicious stereotypes about people "dressing and acting Muslim?"

    Juan Williams did no such thing.

    Ed

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Ross Sauer on Fri Oct 22 19:43:49 2010
    On 10/22/2010 11:09 AM, Ross Sauer -> Earl Croasmun wrote:
    "Earl Croasmun -> Ross Sauer" <1:124/311> wrote in news:15194$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    You havent said a single word about Juan williams being
    canned.

    Why should I?
    While anti-Muslim stereotypes are the norm and encouraged at Faux
    "news," ~> at NPR they are verboten.

    You mean stereotypes like this from Jesse Jackson? ""There is nothing
    more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the
    street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery," Jackson
    told the audience. "Then look around and see somebody white and feel
    relieved. . .
    After all we have been through," he said. "Just to think we can't
    walk
    down our own streets, how humiliating.""

    Or President Obama's grandmother, "a woman who once confessed her fear
    of black men who passed by her on the street?" "The point I was
    making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She
    doesn't. But she is a typical white person who, uh, if she sees
    somebody on the street that she doesn't know there's a reaction that's
    been been bred into our experiences that don't go away"

    All of us have those irrational fears.

    What's irrational about them?

    A few years ago, 4 or 5 black kids got on a city bus, I was riding on. They were wearing the "gangsta" outfit, complete with backwards caps and baggy pants.

    Uhh... right...

    They approached me, turned out they were from a church group and they
    were asking me about Jesus being my savior and the usual crapola.
    I politely said I wasn't interested and they were polite, said "Thank you," and moved on to another passenger.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

    Lovely story, but for some reason I don't believe it. Call it experience gained
    by reading your nonsense over the years.

    Did I think I was going to be hassled? Maybe robbed and/or assaulted?
    I'd be lying if I said no.
    I did think so until they started their spiel.

    So, if we are to believe your story, you were nervous with the appearance of young blacks in, as you called it "'gangsta' outfits" yet you claim Juan Williams is, for better words, a terrible person for being nervous about a group dressed in traditional Muslim attire?

    So a black guy comes up with this vague notion of "Muslim garb,"
    (whatever the hell it is,) ignoring the fact that all of the 9-11 hijackers, and all the attempted terrorists here in the US wore the same clothes all the rest of us wear.
    "He looks Muslim, I'm scared, oogie oogie oogie..."

    Only an idiot would type the nonsense you type.

    It's just another example of the right-wing meme, "He/She looks
    different, so they must be 'the Other' that Glenn Beck told me to be scared of."

    Have you read any of Juan Williams' books? Did you know he has been intimately involved in the civil rights movement for decades?

    It's racism, religious hatred, and white supremacism.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm sure Juan Williams would get a laugh out of that comment.

    Ed

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  • From John Massey@1:123/789 to Ed Hulett on Fri Oct 22 21:52:48 2010
    On 10/22/2010 7:43 PM, Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer wrote:
    Have you read any of Juan Williams' books? Did you know he has been intimately involved in the civil rights movement for decades?

    It's racism, religious hatred, and white supremacism.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm sure Juan Williams would get a laugh out of that comment.

    Ed
    I know I did.

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to John Massey on Fri Oct 22 22:30:20 2010
    On 10/22/2010 06:52 PM, John Massey -> Ed Hulett wrote:
    On 10/22/2010 7:43 PM, Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer wrote:
    Have you read any of Juan Williams' books? Did you know he has been
    intimately involved in the civil rights movement for decades?

    It's racism, religious hatred, and white supremacism.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm sure Juan Williams would get a laugh out of that comment.

    Ed
    I know I did.

    All I can take from Otto's comment above is that he (Otto) is officially kicking him (Juan) out of his (Juan) own race. These idiot moonbats think weird.

    Ed

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  • From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to Earl Croasmun on Sat Oct 23 05:16:00 2010



    All of us have those irrational fears.
    A few years ago, 4 or 5 black kids got on a city bus, I was riding
    on. They were wearing the "gangsta" outfit, complete with
    backwards caps and baggy pants.

    They approached me, turned out they were from a church group and
    they were asking me about Jesus being my savior and the usual
    crapola. I politely said I wasn't interested and they were polite,
    said "Thank you," and moved on to another passenger.

    Did I think I was going to be hassled? Maybe robbed and/or
    assaulted? I'd be lying if I said no.
    I did think so until they started their spiel.

    Good thing you don't work for National Public Radio. You'd be
    unemployed now.

    I don't think there is any chance of him being employed anywhere.


    Jeff

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to EARL CROASMUN on Sat Oct 23 06:15:00 2010
    On 10-22-10, EARL CROASMUN said to ROSS SAUER:

    You havent said a single word about Juan williams being canned.

    Why should I?
    While anti-Muslim stereotypes are the norm and encouraged at Faux "news,"
    at NPR they are verboten.

    You mean stereotypes like this from Jesse Jackson? ""There is nothing EC>more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street EC>and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery," Jackson told the EC>audience. "Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. . . EC>. After all we have been through," he said. "Just to think we can't walk EC>down our own streets, how humiliating.""

    Or President Obama's grandmother, "a woman who once confessed her fear of EC>black men who passed by her on the street?" "The point I was making was EC>not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she EC>is a typical white person who, uh, if she sees somebody on the street that EC>she doesn't know there's a reaction that's been been bred into our EC>experiences that don't go away"


    When I drove for Yellow Cab down in the city of San Diego back in the late 1970's, there were areas of the city uniformed cops didn't go without two or three two-man squad cars on one call. The cops all carried two or three handguns on their person all the time! And those areas were NOT predominately Irish. They weren't predominately Scandinavian, either! NOR were they Latino.


    Facts are facts. To ignore the facts can be hazardous to your continued existance.


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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to ROSS SAUER on Sat Oct 23 06:26:00 2010
    On 10-22-10, ROSS SAUER said to EARL CROASMUN:


    All of us have those irrational fears.


    A few years ago, 4 or 5 black kids got on a city bus, I was riding on. RS>They were wearing the "gangsta" outfit, complete with backwards caps and RS>baggy pants.


    They approached me, turned out they were from a church group and they RS>were asking me about Jesus being my savior and the usual crapola.
    I politely said I wasn't interested and they were polite, said "Thank RS>you," and moved on to another passenger.


    Wait!!!!!! You mean you didn't jump up and slap the nearest one to you! Like you slapped that minister in his own church? In front of his congregation?


    You must be slipping. Or.....maybe you're lying again!



    That reminds me........I think I asked this before and you didn't answer;


    When you slapped that minister? What were *you* doing in a church in the first place? YOU.....who have boasted so many time of your belief in there being no God.....no heaven.....etc etc. What were you doing in a church?


    Wait....before you answer....I gotta get some popcorn!



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  • From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to Tim Richardson on Sat Oct 23 16:03:00 2010



    All of us have those irrational fears.


    A few years ago, 4 or 5 black kids got on a city bus, I was riding TR>RS>on. They were wearing the "gangsta" outfit, complete with
    backwards caps and baggy pants.


    They approached me, turned out they were from a church group and TR>RS>they were asking me about Jesus being my savior and the usual TR>RS>crapola. I politely said I wasn't interested and they were polite, TR>RS>said "Thank you," and moved on to another passenger.


    Wait!!!!!! You mean you didn't jump up and slap the nearest one to
    you! Like you slapped that minister in his own church? In front of
    his congregation?

    It was either an off day for him or he really was afraid. Of course the
    more believable explanation is that it never happened.


    Jeff

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