• Glenn Beck and Fox

    From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to ROSS SAUER on Sun Oct 17 07:30:00 2010
    On 10-16-10, ROSS SAUER said to ED HULETT:

    "Ed Hulett -> Earl Croasmun" <1:123/789.0> wrote in RS>news:15173$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    Beck is on at 2pm here. I don't know what time Oprah is on here, but
    it isn't 2pm.


    Oprah had to have another big giveaway in an attempt to pull in more viewers.


    Oprah is going off the air, retiring.


    Oprah has been reduced to having to `buy' an audience.


    Beck is going to get fired, as soon as one of his groupies murders RS>someone, like that fan of his tried to do to the Tides Foundation and RS>ACLU. Or Beck will get caught doing cocaine again.


    I googled `tides foundation'.


    Seems some idiot publication outfit, The Christian Science Monitor (yawn!) poses the question:



    "Did Glenn Beck's Rhetoric Inspire Violence?"



    Thats like The New York Times coming out with a headline like:


    "Did Obama's Rhetoric Force Iran to go Nuclear?"


    (I'm yawning again)


    The article goes on to say the guy in jailhouse interviews claimed he wanted
    to start a revolution, and he further states that `Beck was *not* the direct cause of his turning violent'!


    (I'm yawning some more)


    See......you have a regular pattern of posting up these hysterical charges, citing some out-of-touch publication (The Christian Science Monitor, fer gawd sakes!), and running with a couple of sentences they print, waving it like a flag to *prove* your point.


    And.....as always.....a closer reading of what you're using as a cite a;ways reveals that, you only `skimmed' the article for a few sentences.


    Thats one of the *many* reasons I rarely if ever go to your url's.





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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Ross Sauer on Sun Oct 17 16:00:39 2010
    On 10/16/2010 04:10 PM, Ross Sauer -> Ed Hulett wrote:
    "Ed Hulett -> Earl Croasmun" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:15173$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    Beck is on at 2pm here. I don't know what time Oprah is on here, but
    it isn't 2pm.

    Oprah had to have another big giveaway in an attempt to pull in more
    viewers.

    Oprah is going off the air, retiring.

    Who cares besides you?

    Beck is going to get fired, as soon as one of his groupies murders
    someone,
    like that fan of his tried to do to the Tides Foundation and ACLU.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

    All you have are ultra left-wing talking points. Beck tells his listeners and viewers on a regular basis to eschew violence. His message isn't that of hate as his detractors claim (they are just following Saul Alinski's Rules for Radicls when they make those claims) his messaage is to change yourself -- become more spiritually centered and to treat others with love and respect.

    He regularly tells his listeners and viewers to check the facts themselves and not to take his or anyone's word for fact. He is not responsible for some unhinged criminal who listens to him and formulates in their drug addled brain that they must shoot up Soros' Tides Foundation.

    Or Beck will get caught doing cocaine again.

    Only an idiot would think that. Your gurus consider you a useful idiot.

    Ed

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to TIM RICHARDSON on Sun Oct 17 16:07:20 2010
    On 10/17/2010 04:30 AM, TIM RICHARDSON -> ROSS SAUER wrote:
    On 10-16-10, ROSS SAUER said to ED HULETT:

    "Ed Hulett -> Earl Croasmun" <1:123/789.0> wrote in
    news:15173$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    Beck is on at 2pm here. I don't know what time Oprah is on here, but
    it isn't 2pm.


    Oprah had to have another big giveaway in an attempt to pull in more
    viewers.


    Oprah is going off the air, retiring.


    Oprah has been reduced to having to `buy' an audience.


    Beck is going to get fired, as soon as one of his groupies murders
    someone, like that fan of his tried to do to the Tides Foundation and
    ACLU. Or Beck will get caught doing cocaine again.


    I googled `tides foundation'.


    Seems some idiot publication outfit, The Christian Science Monitor (yawn!) poses the question:



    "Did Glenn Beck's Rhetoric Inspire Violence?"



    Thats like The New York Times coming out with a headline like:


    "Did Obama's Rhetoric Force Iran to go Nuclear?"


    (I'm yawning again)


    The article goes on to say the guy in jailhouse interviews claimed he wanted
    to start a revolution, and he further states that `Beck was *not* the direct
    cause of his turning violent'!


    (I'm yawning some more)


    See......you have a regular pattern of posting up these hysterical
    charges,
    citing some out-of-touch publication (The Christian Science Monitor, fer gawd
    sakes!), and running with a couple of sentences they print, waving it
    like a
    flag to *prove* your point.


    And.....as always.....a closer reading of what you're using as a cite a;ways
    reveals that, you only `skimmed' the article for a few sentences.


    Thats one of the *many* reasons I rarely if ever go to your url's.

    It's not just Otto. The CSM posted the article and immediately the usual suspects -- Media Mutters, PuffHo, Salon, Mother Jones, et. al. parrot the part
    claiming Beck was responsible and then Soros' Tides Foundation sent letters to CEOs of the advertisers on FNN trying to bully them from advertising there -- telling them they will have blood on their hands if they continue. It's Saul Alinski all over again.

    Ed

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  • From Ross Sauer@1:123/789 to Ed Hulett on Sun Oct 17 17:06:35 2010
    "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:15180$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    Beck is going to get fired, as soon as one of his groupies
    murders
    someone,
    like that fan of his tried to do to the Tides Foundation and
    ACLU.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

    All you have are ultra left-wing talking points. Beck tells his
    listeners and viewers on a regular basis to eschew violence. His
    message isn't that of hate as his detractors claim (they are just following Saul Alinski's Rules for Radicls when they make those
    claims) his messaage is to change yourself -- become more spiritually centered and to treat others with love and respect.

    Yeah, Beck tells his loyal groupies to eschew violence.

    He just "informs" his groupies about the "terrible Satanic plots."

    "All those who believe that, stand on their heads!" -Col Henry Blake

    Meanwhile on Friday Beck devoted his entire show to demonizing the Tides Foundation, making up the wildest stories imaginable, including the lie
    that "George Soros controls Tides."

    George Soros started the Tides Foundation?
    Hmmm...

    No George Soros here...

    34 Years of Tides

    Since 1976, Tides has worked with individuals and institutions committed
    to positive social change.

    Tides was started out of a need to facilitate the giving of an anonymous
    couple in New Mexico. They wanted to support grassroots community groups
    and environmental organizations, and Drummond Pike created Tides
    Foundation to channel their grants. In 1979, there emerged another need
    that we responded to: helping new projects get started.

    http://www.tides.org/about-us/history/index.html

    Odd, no George Soros here:

    http://www.tides.org/about-us/executive-team/index.html

    No George Soros here either.

    http://www.tides.org/about-us/board-of-directors/index.html

    Hmm...you must be repeating yet another of Glenn Beck's "conspiracies,"
    that he pulls out of his ass.

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Ross Sauer on Sun Oct 17 18:02:35 2010
    On 10/17/2010 02:06 PM, Ross Sauer -> Ed Hulett wrote:
    "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:15180$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    Beck is going to get fired, as soon as one of his groupies
    murders
    someone,
    like that fan of his tried to do to the Tides Foundation and
    ACLU.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

    All you have are ultra left-wing talking points. Beck tells his
    listeners and viewers on a regular basis to eschew violence. His
    message isn't that of hate as his detractors claim (they are just
    following Saul Alinski's Rules for Radicls when they make those
    claims) his messaage is to change yourself -- become more spiritually
    centered and to treat others with love and respect.

    Yeah, Beck tells his loyal groupies to eschew violence.

    They aren't "groupies."

    He just "informs" his groupies about the "terrible Satanic plots."

    That is a lie.

    "All those who believe that, stand on their heads!" -Col Henry Blake

    You are an idiot.

    Meanwhile on Friday Beck devoted his entire show to demonizing the Tides Foundation, making up the wildest stories imaginable, including the lie that "George Soros controls Tides."

    George Soros created the Tides Foundation and helps fund it.

    George Soros started the Tides Foundation?
    Hmmm...

    Hahahahahaha!!!!

    No George Soros here...

    34 Years of Tides

    Since 1976, Tides has worked with individuals and institutions committed to positive social change.

    "Positive social change" code words for anything left-wing.

    Tides was started out of a need to facilitate the giving of an anonymous couple in New Mexico. They wanted to support grassroots community groups and environmental organizations, and Drummond Pike created Tides Foundation to channel their grants. In 1979, there emerged another need that we responded to: helping new projects get started.

    "anonymous couple in New Mexico?"

    http://www.tides.org/about-us/history/index.html

    Odd, no George Soros here:

    http://www.tides.org/about-us/executive-team/index.html

    No George Soros here either.

    http://www.tides.org/about-us/board-of-directors/index.html

    Hmm...you must be repeating yet another of Glenn Beck's "conspiracies," that he pulls out of his ass.

    It's not a "conspiracy." Soros is careful to keep his name out of things. He made his billions destroying the British currency and now he's doing the same to ours. BTW, if investing in gold is such a bad thing, why is Soros now doing just that?

    Ed

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  • From Earl Croasmun@1:124/311 to All on Sun Oct 17 18:54:12 2010
    On 10/17/2010 6:06 PM, Ed Hulett wrote to Ross Sauer:

    All you have are ultra left-wing talking points. Beck tells his
    listeners and viewers on a regular basis to eschew violence. His
    message isn't that of hate as his detractors claim (they are just
    following Saul Alinski's Rules for Radicls when they make those
    claims) his messaage is to change yourself -- become more spiritually
    centered and to treat others with love and respect.

    Yeah, Beck tells his loyal groupies to eschew violence.

    I have no interest in Beck, but if you want to see how shallow this "mediamatters" story about Byron Williams really is, see:

    http://reason.com/blog/2010/10/11/byron-williams-talks

    or you can go all the way back to the interview that the Reason story
    reported on:

    http://www.examiner.com/sf-in-san-francisco/freeway-gunman-byron-williams-says-glenn-beck-did-not-incite-him-to-violence

    The title sort of gives it away. One line from the story, in fact: "He
    also said he felt forced to act out in violence because Beck and others in
    the right wing media were not fighting hard enough against organizations
    like the left-leaning Tides Foundation. "

    and later in the article:

    "When asked directly if he knew about the Tides Foundation before Beck mentioned it, Williams replied, ôYes, I already had all that information
    that he used on one or two of his programs. I already knew all of that
    stuff. And to me it was more of a confirmation of what I already knew. ô

    When asked if it hadnÆt been for Glenn Beck and Fox News, whether he still would have planned violence, Williams said that it was because Fox News
    didnÆt do enough to pursue the political left that he became frustrated and felt like violence was the only answer.

    The freeway gunman said, ôIÆm actually mad at Fox. IÆm mad at them
    because they go on to something else. ItÆs like they drop the issue and it lands on a shelf somewhere to collect dust. And thatÆs whatÆs happening to
    the truth. "

    This will all come as a shock to Sauer. Everything does.


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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Earl Croasmun on Sun Oct 17 22:19:40 2010
    On 10/17/2010 04:54 PM, Earl Croasmun -> All wrote:
    On 10/17/2010 6:06 PM, Ed Hulett wrote to Ross Sauer:

    All you have are ultra left-wing talking points. Beck tells his
    listeners and viewers on a regular basis to eschew violence. His
    message isn't that of hate as his detractors claim (they are just
    following Saul Alinski's Rules for Radicls when they make those
    claims) his messaage is to change yourself -- become more
    spiritually
    centered and to treat others with love and respect.

    Yeah, Beck tells his loyal groupies to eschew violence.

    I have no interest in Beck, but if you want to see how shallow this "mediamatters" story about Byron Williams really is, see:

    Do you mean that Media Mutters et al got the story wrong? Say it ain't so!

    http://reason.com/blog/2010/10/11/byron-williams-talks

    or you can go all the way back to the interview that the Reason story reported on:

    http://www.examiner.com/sf-in-san-francisco/freeway-gunman-byron-williams-says-glenn-beck-did-not-incite-him-to-violence


    The title sort of gives it away. One line from the story, in fact: "He also said he felt forced to act out in violence because Beck and others in the right wing media were not fighting hard enough against organizations like the left-leaning Tides Foundation. "

    and later in the article:

    "When asked directly if he knew about the Tides Foundation before Beck mentioned it, Williams replied, ôYes, I already had all that information that he used on one or two of his programs. I already knew all of that stuff. And to me it was more of a confirmation of what I already knew. ô

    When asked if it hadnÆt been for Glenn Beck and Fox News, whether he still would have planned violence, Williams said that it was because Fox News didnÆt do enough to pursue the political left that he became frustrated
    and
    felt like violence was the only answer.

    The freeway gunman said, ôIÆm actually mad at Fox. IÆm mad at them
    because they go on to something else. ItÆs like they drop the issue and it lands on a shelf somewhere to collect dust. And thatÆs whatÆs happening to the truth. "

    This will all come as a shock to Sauer. Everything does.

    No, Otto will claim that Reason and examiner.com are right-wing liars. He has no shame.

    Ed

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Ross Sauer on Fri Oct 15 12:41:09 2010
    On 10/14/2010 09:15 PM, Ross Sauer -> John Massey wrote:
    "John Massey -> BOB KLAHN" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:10648$ALL-POLITICS@JamNNTPd:

    Glen Beck was not a mistake by Murdoch, but a deliberate
    choice.

    And from Murdoch's pov a good one. Why do you think Murdoch is
    losing money on Beck?
    Beck's ratings are high and advertisors pay top dollar for add time.

    Two dogs humping get more attention.

    When you have the time, take a look at where your gurus Maddow and Olbermann are in relation to Beck. Beck has the second highest rating on TV. Maddow and Olbermann don't even come close even if they combine their ratings.

    Ed

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  • From Ross Sauer@1:123/789 to Ed Hulett on Fri Oct 15 14:28:30 2010
    "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:15158$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    Glen Beck was not a mistake by Murdoch, but a deliberate
    choice.

    And from Murdoch's pov a good one. Why do you think Murdoch is
    losing money on Beck?
    Beck's ratings are high and advertisors pay top dollar for add
    time.

    Two dogs humping get more attention.

    When you have the time, take a look at where your gurus Maddow and Olbermann are in relation to Beck. Beck has the second highest rating
    on TV. Maddow and Olbermann don't even come close even if they combine their ratings.

    Glenn Beck's TV show is on at the same time as Oprah's.

    Which show gets far better ratings in that time slot?

    Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow are on from 7-9 pm.

    BTW, Byron Williams, the nutcase who wanted to shoot everyone at the
    Tides Foundation and the ACLU had as his guru, Glenn Beck.

    Glenn Beck also wanted to put rat poison into Nancy Pelosi's drink.

    Nmae *JUST* *ONCE* Olbermann or Maddow said anything remotely like that.
    Easy answer: You can't.

    Beck also quoted from a book written by Elizabeth Dilling, who was a
    vicious racist, anti-Semite and Nazi Germany sympathizer.
    Beck alos quoted from the author Eustace Mullins, who said our money
    problems were caused by "the Jew conspiracy."
    Beck also regurgitated the "Jew conspiracy" story from the then-
    Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir.

    And when called out on those smears, he blames "the liberal media."

    Just yesterday Beck told his viewers to donate to the US Chamber Of
    Commerce, the liars who will not say where foreign money goes.

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Ross Sauer on Fri Oct 15 22:30:28 2010
    On 10/15/2010 11:28 AM, Ross Sauer -> Ed Hulett wrote:
    "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:15158$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    Glen Beck was not a mistake by Murdoch, but a deliberate
    choice.

    And from Murdoch's pov a good one. Why do you think Murdoch is
    losing money on Beck?
    Beck's ratings are high and advertisors pay top dollar for add
    time.

    Two dogs humping get more attention.

    When you have the time, take a look at where your gurus Maddow and
    Olbermann are in relation to Beck. Beck has the second highest rating
    on TV. Maddow and Olbermann don't even come close even if they combine
    their ratings.

    Glenn Beck's TV show is on at the same time as Oprah's.

    It is? Too bad for Opra, then.

    Which show gets far better ratings in that time slot?

    Beck gets the highest ratings in his time slot.

    Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow are on from 7-9 pm.

    And they are dead last in their time slots.

    BTW, Byron Williams, the nutcase who wanted to shoot everyone at the
    Tides Foundation and the ACLU had as his guru, Glenn Beck.

    So what? The uni-bomber was a disciple of Al Gore and considered Gore's "Earth in the Balance" his bible.

    Glenn Beck also wanted to put rat poison into Nancy Pelosi's drink.

    No, he did not.

    Nmae *JUST* *ONCE* Olbermann or Maddow said anything remotely like that. Easy answer: You can't.

    They continuously attack anyone on the right. In fact, that's all they do - talk about other people.

    Beck also quoted from a book written by Elizabeth Dilling, who was a vicious racist, anti-Semite and Nazi Germany sympathizer.

    So what? Planned Parenthood was started by a vicious racist, anti-Semite and Nazi sympathizer.

    Beck alos quoted from the author Eustace Mullins, who said our money problems were caused by "the Jew conspiracy."

    That isn't what Beck quoted.

    Beck also regurgitated the "Jew conspiracy" story from the then-
    Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir.

    No, he did not.

    And when called out on those smears, he blames "the liberal media."

    Who called him on it? Soros' goon David Brock?

    Just yesterday Beck told his viewers to donate to the US Chamber Of Commerce, the liars who will not say where foreign money goes.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

    It was the single highest day of donations the Chamber has ever had.

    You have no evidence that the Chamber are liars or that they used foreign money
    to finance political ads. In fact, all you have is what the idiot in the White House claims, which is nothing.

    You'd do a lot better if you didn't just parrot what your gurus tell you.

    Ed

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Ross Cassell on Fri Oct 15 22:43:04 2010
    On 10/15/2010 07:31 PM, Ross Cassell -> Ed Hulett wrote:
    Hello Ed!

    15 Oct 10 22:30, you wrote to Ross Sauer:

    Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow are on from 7-9 pm.

    Sauer is upset that NBC Sports got rid of that puke Olbermann on their Sunday Night NFL studio program.

    No one watches Maddow or Olbermann... well, idiots do, but they don't count.

    Ed

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  • From Ross Cassell@1:123/456 to Ed Hulett on Fri Oct 15 22:31:48 2010
    Hello Ed!

    15 Oct 10 22:30, you wrote to Ross Sauer:

    Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow are on from 7-9 pm.

    Sauer is upset that NBC Sports got rid of that puke Olbermann on their Sunday Night NFL studio program.


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  • From Ross Sauer@1:123/789 to Ed Hulett on Sat Oct 16 00:59:53 2010
    "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:15160$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    Glenn Beck's TV show is on at the same time as Oprah's.

    It is? Too bad for Opra, then.

    Which show gets far better ratings in that time slot?

    Beck gets the highest ratings in his time slot.

    Lie.

    A new Harris Poll shows Ms. Winfrey on top as America's favorite TV personality.

    Debuting on the list in second place is Fox News commentator Glenn Beck.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2010/01/25/2010-01-25 _oprah_glenn_beck_are_americas_favorite_tv_personalities_poll_.html#ixzz12U hAA6pa

    Besides, Oprah wasn't a dope addict.

    BTW, Byron Williams, the nutcase who wanted to shoot everyone at
    the RS> Tides Foundation and the ACLU had as his guru, Glenn Beck.

    So what? The uni-bomber was a disciple of Al Gore and considered
    Gore's "Earth in the Balance" his bible.

    The Uni-bomber was an anrachist who wanted to destroy everything that had
    to do with technology.

    Glenn Beck creates out of thin air his "conspiracies' like the Tides
    Foundation and ACLU.

    Glenn Beck also wanted to put rat poison into Nancy Pelosi's
    drink.

    No, he did not.

    Fox News host Glenn Beck joked on the air Thursday about poisoning House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), drawing a sharp rebuke from a liberal
    media watchdog group.

    Riffing off a POLITICO report on Pelosi's upcoming Napa Valley event for big-dollar donors and other supporters, Beck did a sketch Thursday in which
    he pretended to be at the event, drinking wine with the speaker.

    As a staffer wearing a Pelosi mask lifted a glass to her lips, Beck said:

    "I really just really wanted to thank you having me over here to Wine
    Country, you know. To be invited, I thought I had to be a major Democratic donor, or a longtime friend of yours, which I'm not. By the way, I put
    poison in your -- no ..."

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25906.html

    Nmae *JUST* *ONCE* Olbermann or Maddow said anything remotely
    like that. RS> Easy answer: You can't.

    They continuously attack anyone on the right. In fact, that's all they
    do - talk about other people.

    They attack the lies from the right-wing.
    That's what pisses you off so much.

    Beck also quoted from a book written by Elizabeth Dilling, who
    was a RS> vicious racist, anti-Semite and Nazi Germany sympathizer.

    So what? Planned Parenthood was started by a vicious racist,
    anti-Semite and Nazi sympathizer.

    Planned Parenthood dropped those views.
    Glenn Beck still embraces them.

    Beck alos quoted from the author Eustace Mullins, who said our
    money RS> problems were caused by "the Jew conspiracy."

    That isn't what Beck quoted.

    Beck also regurgitated the "Jew conspiracy" story from the then-
    Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir.

    No, he did not.

    And when called out on those smears, he blames "the liberal
    media."

    Who called him on it? Soros' goon David Brock?

    Soros scares the living shit out fo you.

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  • From Ross Sauer@1:123/789 to Ross Cassell on Sat Oct 16 01:00:46 2010
    "Ross Cassell -> Ed Hulett" <1:123/456> wrote in news:15161 $POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow are on from 7-9 pm.

    Sauer is upset that NBC Sports got rid of that puke Olbermann on their Sunday Night NFL studio program.

    Huh?

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  • From Ross Cassell@1:123/456 to Ross Sauer on Sat Oct 16 10:28:24 2010
    Hello Ross!

    16 Oct 10 01:00, you wrote to me:

    Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow are on from 7-9 pm.

    Sauer is upset that NBC Sports got rid of that puke Olbermann on
    their Sunday Night NFL studio program.

    Huh?

    Surely you remember That puke, up through last year being on their Pre-game/Halftime/post-game show?

    ==
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  • From Ross Sauer@1:123/789 to Ross Cassell on Sat Oct 16 10:46:10 2010
    "Ross Cassell -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/456> wrote in news:15165 $POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow are on from 7-9 pm.

    Sauer is upset that NBC Sports got rid of that puke Olbermann on
    their Sunday Night NFL studio program.

    Huh?

    Surely you remember That puke, up through last year being on their Pre-game/Halftime/post-game show?

    Until Keith Olbermann got his own show on MSNBC, I didn't know of him.

    As to him being a "puke," while he can get rather strident at times, he has more credibility than all of the Faux "news" assholes put together.

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  • From Ross Cassell@1:123/456 to Ross Sauer on Sat Oct 16 10:46:57 2010
    Hello Ross!

    16 Oct 10 10:46, you wrote to me:

    As to him being a "puke," while he can get rather strident at times,
    he has more credibility than all of the Faux "news" assholes put
    together.

    So says Mr Partisan.

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Ross Sauer on Sat Oct 16 14:37:08 2010
    On 10/15/2010 09:59 PM, Ross Sauer -> Ed Hulett wrote:
    "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:15160$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    Glenn Beck's TV show is on at the same time as Oprah's.

    It is? Too bad for Opra, then.

    Which show gets far better ratings in that time slot?

    Beck gets the highest ratings in his time slot.

    Lie.

    A new Harris Poll shows Ms. Winfrey on top as America's favorite TV personality.

    Their shows are completely different. There is no comparison between the two.

    Debuting on the list in second place is Fox News commentator Glenn Beck.

    First place in his category.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2010/01/25/2010-01-25 _oprah_glenn_beck_are_americas_favorite_tv_personalities_poll_.html#ixzz12U
    hAA6pa

    Besides, Oprah wasn't a dope addict.

    The operative word is *WAS*! Beck has been clean for years now. If he agreed with you, you'd not mention his past once.

    BTW, Byron Williams, the nutcase who wanted to shoot everyone at
    the RS> Tides Foundation and the ACLU had as his guru, Glenn Beck.

    So what? The uni-bomber was a disciple of Al Gore and considered
    Gore's "Earth in the Balance" his bible.

    The Uni-bomber was an anrachist who wanted to destroy everything that had to do with technology.

    Uh... no, he was an environmental extremist.

    Glenn Beck creates out of thin air his "conspiracies' like the Tides Foundation and ACLU.

    No, he doesn't. He uses facts and then tells his audience to research for themselves to verify his claims.

    Glenn Beck also wanted to put rat poison into Nancy Pelosi's
    drink.

    No, he did not.

    Fox News host Glenn Beck joked on the air Thursday about poisoning House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), drawing a sharp rebuke from a liberal media watchdog group.

    A joke is not the same as "wanting to put rat poison" in her drink. The joke may be off color, but it is not the same as advocating such action.

    Riffing off a POLITICO report on Pelosi's upcoming Napa Valley event for big-dollar donors and other supporters, Beck did a sketch Thursday in
    which
    he pretended to be at the event, drinking wine with the speaker.

    As a staffer wearing a Pelosi mask lifted a glass to her lips, Beck said:

    "I really just really wanted to thank you having me over here to Wine Country, you know. To be invited, I thought I had to be a major Democratic donor, or a longtime friend of yours, which I'm not. By the way, I put poison in your -- no ..."

    A sketch... a joke...

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25906.html

    Politico is a left-wing propaganda machine.

    Nmae *JUST* *ONCE* Olbermann or Maddow said anything remotely
    like that. RS> Easy answer: You can't.

    They continuously attack anyone on the right. In fact, that's all they
    do - talk about other people.

    They attack the lies from the right-wing.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

    Only a useful moonbat would make such a claim.

    That's what pisses you off so much.

    Uh... no... I couldn't care less what they say or do.

    Beck also quoted from a book written by Elizabeth Dilling, who
    was a RS> vicious racist, anti-Semite and Nazi Germany sympathizer.

    So what? Planned Parenthood was started by a vicious racist,
    anti-Semite and Nazi sympathizer.

    Planned Parenthood dropped those views.

    Really? Are you sure?

    Glenn Beck still embraces them.

    That is a lie.

    Beck alos quoted from the author Eustace Mullins, who said our
    money RS> problems were caused by "the Jew conspiracy."

    That isn't what Beck quoted.

    Beck also regurgitated the "Jew conspiracy" story from the then-
    Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir.

    No, he did not.

    And when called out on those smears, he blames "the liberal
    media."

    Who called him on it? Soros' goon David Brock?

    Soros scares the living shit out fo you.

    Soros plays you like a violin.

    Ed

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to ROSS SAUER on Sat Oct 16 12:37:00 2010
    On 10-15-10, ROSS SAUER said to ED HULETT:


    Here's a column bound to stir your hate-caldron for you but good:



    Victory-Deficit Disorder - Oliver North - Townhall Conservative


    It has been an interesting "homecoming" from our most
    recent Fox News "embed" with U.S. and coalition forces in Afghanistan. The flights we took, from Kabul to Dubai and onward to Dulles International Airport, were full of Americans -- service members heading home on leave, a gaggle of U.S. government officials, more than a dozen civilian contractors, several private-sector engineers and technicians, and a group of executives seeking "investment opportunities" in Afghanistan. None of those with whom I spoke on these flights expressed any angst about "lack of progress" or "fear
    of failure" in this war.


    Three days later, I was again at Dulles Airport heading for my departure gate, when a U.S. Air Force officer assigned to Creech Air Force Base, Nev., approached me in the crowded concourse. After introducing himself, he
    described how he had been the command pilot for an MQ-9 Reaper remotely
    piloted aircraft supporting a special operations mission our Fox News team had accompanied in Afghanistan.


    When I asked him how he knew we were on that particular operation, he said, "The JTAC (joint tactical air controller) was right beside you with his ROVER (which stands for remotely operated video enhanced receiver, a device that allows an on-scene air support controller to see the images being acquired by
    a remotely piloted aircraft's cameras overhead) when the Hellfire missile hit.

    The JTAC told me you were there over our (satellite) link."


    We chatted for a few moments about the extraordinary technology that allowed him to deliver a 20-pound warhead precisely on target from half a world away
    -- but paused when the crowd around us suddenly broke into cheers. Throughout the terminal, passengers and airline personnel were looking at ceiling-mounted televisions in the waiting areas. On the screens, a Chilean miner, trapped 2,200 feet underground for 69 days, was emerging from the Phoenix, a NASA- designed, Chilean-built rescue capsule suspended over a narrow shaft drilled with the help of American engineers, some of whom flew to Chile from Afghanistan.


    Throughout the concourse, people applauded as the miner, one of 33 men once presumed dead, embraced his tearful wife, thanked his rescuers and accepted
    the congratulations of Sebastian Pinera, his country's president. It was an extraordinary moment -- being among hundreds of strangers, saluting a triumph of tenacity, technology and skill over what was nearly a terrible tragedy.


    Pinera staked his entire political future on the high-risk endeavor he called Operacion Esperanza, or Operation Hope. He was effusive in describing the lengthy rescue effort as "the miracle at San Jose mine," spoke unabashedly of the faith of the trapped men and their families, called the rescuers and the rescued "heroes," and overtly thanked God for answering their prayers.


    Minutes later, the impromptu airport celebration ended as quickly as it started.


    By the time the Air Force pilot and I reached our boarding gate, the televisions in the terminal had cut away to a commercial. When programming resumed, it was for a news update. The Reaper pilot nodded toward the nearest TV and said: "It would be nice if he could give us accolades like we just saw for what we're doing in Afghanistan. But I guess that won't happen unless someone puts it in his teleprompter."


    On the screen was a recap of America's commander in chief making a political speech at George Washington University. According to the caption beneath his image, President Barack Obama was talking about "Moving America Forward." Few in the airport were paying attention.


    The contrast between the two heads of state, Pinera and Obama, was palpable -- and should serve as a lesson for the surviving members of the O-Team. If Obama wants to preserve his presidency, he needs to take a page from the Pinera playbook.


    Chile's president was fully invested in the success of rescuing the trapped miners. Unlike Obama during the offshore oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, Pinera was very much a hands-on manager during the two-month, meticulously planned rescue operation, consistently under-promising and over-delivering. He was humble enough to reach out to others for technical help. The 13-ton drilling equipment that cut the rescue shaft through solid rock was delivered in 48 hours from Pennsylvania. And after Luis Urzua -- the last miner to be rescued from "that dark hole in the earth" -- came out, Pinera unabashedly led his countrymen in an emotional, spontaneous rendition of their national
    anthem.


    Obama could garner considerable advantage by associating himself with some of his own very bright, brave countrymen: those serving in Afghanistan. American courage, faith and perseverance abound in the shadows of the Hindu Kush. And like the rescue in the Chilean desert, it is a great success story. But claiming this triumph will require that our president overcome his severe case of victory-deficit disorder.


    Oliver North


    Oliver North is the founder and honorary chairman of Freedom Alliance and author of The Assassins .






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  • From Earl Croasmun@1:124/311 to Ed Hulett on Sat Oct 16 14:54:52 2010
    Beck gets the highest ratings in his time slot.

    Lie.
    A new Harris Poll shows Ms. Winfrey on top as America's favorite TV personality.

    Their shows are completely different.

    And in much of the country they have different times. And one is on a broadcast network with a larger pool of potential watchers. And the piece
    he posted talks about personal popularity, not ratings. In fact I recall seeing a recent headline about Oprah now losing to someone called "Judge Judy."

    Sauer is unaware of all of this. He just posts stuff like that out of
    reflex action.

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Earl Croasmun on Sat Oct 16 16:50:48 2010
    On 10/16/2010 12:54 PM, Earl Croasmun -> Ed Hulett wrote:
    Beck gets the highest ratings in his time slot.

    Lie.
    A new Harris Poll shows Ms. Winfrey on top as America's favorite TV
    personality.

    Their shows are completely different.

    And in much of the country they have different times. And one is on a broadcast network with a larger pool of potential watchers. And the piece he posted talks about personal popularity, not ratings. In fact I recall seeing a recent headline about Oprah now losing to someone called "Judge Judy."

    Beck is on at 2pm here. I don't know what time Oprah is on here, but it isn't 2pm.

    Oprah had to have another big giveaway in an attempt to pull in more viewers.

    Sauer is unaware of all of this. He just posts stuff like that out of reflex action.

    Sauer is unaware of quite a bit.

    Ed

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  • From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to Ed Hulett on Sat Oct 16 16:16:00 2010




    Glenn Beck's TV show is on at the same time as Oprah's.

    It is? Too bad for Opra, then.

    Which show gets far better ratings in that time slot?

    Beck gets the highest ratings in his time slot.

    Lie.

    A new Harris Poll shows Ms. Winfrey on top as America's favorite
    TV personality.

    Their shows are completely different. There is no comparison between
    the two.

    What he fails to realize is that Neilson and similar do not compare
    broadcast vs. cable ratings. They are different mediums.


    Jeff

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Jeff Binkley on Sat Oct 16 18:28:48 2010
    On 10/16/2010 01:16 PM, Jeff Binkley -> Ed Hulett wrote:




    Glenn Beck's TV show is on at the same time as Oprah's.

    It is? Too bad for Opra, then.

    Which show gets far better ratings in that time slot?

    Beck gets the highest ratings in his time slot.

    Lie.

    A new Harris Poll shows Ms. Winfrey on top as America's favorite
    TV personality.

    Their shows are completely different. There is no comparison between
    the two.

    What he fails to realize is that Neilson and similar do not compare broadcast vs. cable ratings. They are different mediums.

    He also fails to realize that Oprah is not in the same time slot as Beck in all
    markets.

    Ed

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  • From Ross Sauer@1:123/789 to Ed Hulett on Sat Oct 16 19:10:21 2010
    "Ed Hulett -> Earl Croasmun" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:15173$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    Beck is on at 2pm here. I don't know what time Oprah is on here, but
    it isn't 2pm.

    Oprah had to have another big giveaway in an attempt to pull in more viewers.

    Oprah is going off the air, retiring.

    Beck is going to get fired, as soon as one of his groupies murders someone, like that fan of his tried to do to the Tides Foundation and ACLU.

    Or Beck will get caught doing cocaine again.

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