• More "patriotic" hatred

    From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to ROSS SAUER on Mon Sep 20 19:14:00 2010
    On 09-18-10, ROSS SAUER said to BOB KLAHN:


    I'm just guessing.



    Andrew Breitbart was faced with a mob of protesters carrying signs, and shouting puffed-up slogans. It was quite a large crowd of people.


    He walked up to the rope and began asking people why they were there. these protesters couldn't even tell him why they were there protesting. Not only that, they couldn't even tell him *what* they were protesting.


    One person was holding a sign that stated Glen Beck was a liar. When Breitbart asked the guy holding that sign what Beck had lied about.....all he got was a whole lot of "....er....uh..um.......uh....well....er...uh!"



    Then ( and this is classic!) they started accusing Breitbart of being homosexsual! I kid you not! Do you fuckin' believe that! These puke bastards who are trying to force the whole nation to pretend that `marraige' between
    two people of the same sex is just mom-and-apple pie grand....daring to accuse someone of being a homosexual, as though thats a detriment to that individual! That it discredits them in some way......or belittles their political or
    social positions!


    So......you can see that even the very ones who stand up for marraige between two homosexuals, KNOW its a revolting idea! They themselves prove it every
    time they come out with the homo slams at someone they despise!


    If they thought it really so great, they wouldn't accuse someone of being homosexual in the first place.....because....according to their own fuckin' ideas of *tolerance*....there ain't nothin' wrong with it!



    By the way......after seeing the individual Breitbart confronted stumble all over his own words trying to say something intelligent, the organizers saw
    that the entire crowd was completely out of their depth with Breitbart, and they began ushering their `protesters' away from the rope barrier.


    Breitbart was soon standing there alone!


    All that noise and shouting.....Breitbart walks up and asks a few pointed questions, and the whole crowd disolves! Even the organizers couldn't face
    him!


    It reminded me of an unarmed sheriff facing down a lynch mob with a few carefully chosen words, and the lynch mob shame-facedly disbursing.


    HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Ross Sauer on Wed Aug 11 20:42:00 2010
    On 08/11/2010 03:52 PM, Ross Sauer -> John Massey wrote:
    "John Massey -> BOB KLAHN" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:9542$ALL-POLITICS@JamNNTPd:

    What has any of that got to do with the fact that an
    American judge used sharia law as a reason when allowing a
    rapist and a wife mutilator to go free?

    Actually, the judge never mentioned Sharia. Probably doesn't
    know any more about it than you do.

    Bob your absolutely right, the judge, never mention sharia law,
    however in his opinion it is clear that he was using tenants of sharia
    law as justification for not singing a restraining order.

    "This court does not feel that, under the circumstances, that this
    defendant had a criminal desire to or intent to sexually assault or to
    sexually contact the plaintiff when he did. The court believes that he
    was operating under his belief that it is, as the husband, his desire
    to have sex when and whether he wanted to, was something that was
    consistent with his practices and it was something that was not
    prohibited."

    I think even you would have a hard time making a case for the judge's
    refusal to sign the restraining order based on American jurisprudence.

    Point 1: The judge in this case was over-ruled.

    But the trend is now to look abroad when judging a case. Which includes considering Sharia law.

    Point 2: I haven't found anything *CLOSE* to this ruling.

    Just wait, some other liberal judge will follow suit.

    Point 3: It has nothing to do with my original point, namely that professional Muslim-haters like Pam Geller, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck are creating religious bigotry to gain political and financial gain.
    And they whip up their followers into near-homicidal rages.

    Show that any of those you mentioned hate Muslims. Show that any of those you mentioned purposely "whip up [anyone] into near-homicidal rages." Prove that their rhetoric incites violence.

    All you have are the ravings of George Soros' proxies at Medai Matters, HuffPo and Daily Kos.

    You have never listened to any of those you mention beyond highly edited video and audio clips.

    The only hate here is the hate from the left for anyone who they don't agree with. You can see it in the names they (and you parrot) use to describe them.

    It's laughable how the far left is now supporting the Ground Zero Mosque simply
    because many on the right are speaking out against it. The Imam who is spearheading the effort for the Mosque wants the US to be Sharia compliant and has denied that Hammas is a terrorist organization. He also made the claim that
    the US is complicit in the 9-11 attacks.

    The entire thing is political since the area is mostly industrial and business and very few Muslims live in the area. In fact, if it is built, Muslims would have to travel 40 minutes from their homes in The Bronx and Queens to visit the
    Mosque. Having it there is more of a poke in the eye for the survivors and families of the victims of 9-11 in particular and the US in general.

    There are already 100+ Mosques in NYC that are closer to where the Muslim communities are, there is no real need for one 2 blocks from Ground Zero of 9-11.

    Ed

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  • From Stan Hardegree@1:123/789 to Ed Hulett on Wed Aug 11 20:53:05 2010
    RS> Point 3: It has nothing to do with my original point, namely that
    RS> professional Muslim-haters like Pam Geller, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn
    Beck
    RS> are creating religious bigotry to gain political and financial gain.
    RS> And they whip up their followers into near-homicidal rages.

    Show that any of those you mentioned hate Muslims. Show that any of
    those you mentioned purposely "whip up [anyone] into near-homicidal
    rages." Prove that their rhetoric incites violence.

    The scumbag mentioned Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin. Otto's braindead.

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Stan Hardegree on Wed Aug 11 21:27:14 2010
    On 08/11/2010 05:53 PM, Stan Hardegree -> Ed Hulett wrote:
    Point 3: It has nothing to do with my original point, namely that
    professional Muslim-haters like Pam Geller, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn
    Beck
    are creating religious bigotry to gain political and financial gain.
    And they whip up their followers into near-homicidal rages.

    Show that any of those you mentioned hate Muslims. Show that any of
    those you mentioned purposely "whip up [anyone] into near-homicidal
    rages." Prove that their rhetoric incites violence.

    The scumbag mentioned Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin. Otto's braindead.

    He'd have to have a brain to be brain-dead. Otto is a follower and cannot understand that others have independent ideas. He can't imagine someone making a decision on their own about politics.

    His heros include the racist Harry Reid (yes, I know he's a fellow Mormon) who cannot imagine an Hispanic person being a Republican.

    Ed

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  • From Ross Cassell@1:123/456 to Ed Hulett on Wed Aug 11 21:27:55 2010
    Hello Ed!

    11 Aug 10 21:27, you wrote to Stan Hardegree:

    His heros include the racist Harry Reid (yes, I know he's a fellow
    Mormon) who cannot imagine an Hispanic person being a Republican.

    If Reid is a Mormon, wouldnt that make him in Sauers eyes, a cultist?

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Ross Sauer on Wed Aug 11 23:58:57 2010
    On 08/11/2010 07:42 PM, Ross Sauer -> Ross Cassell wrote:
    "Ross Cassell -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/456> wrote in news:9550$ALL-POLITICS@JamNNTPd:

    The New York City landmarks commission decided this week to act
    in the RS> interest of New Yorkers rather than out-of-state
    conservative pundits RS> and voted to clear the way for the
    construction of an Islamic center RS> in lower Manhattan, a few
    blocks from the site where the World Trade RS> that this site of A

    It is unacceptable to alot of people...

    Not "a lot of people."
    A few bigots.

    The majority of America is against the Mosque. Are the majority of America "a few bigots?"

    Like "American Family Association's" Brian Fischer, who wants to ban
    *ALL* mosques and Muslim buildings in the US. Period.

    You point to one small group and then try to paint anyone and everyone with the
    same brush.

    You see, all Muslims are alike, right? (sarcasm off)

    No. The issue is not all Muslims, but this controversial Imam and his push to put a Mosque within a short walk from the worst terrorist attack in American history that was committed by Extremist Islamists. It's not "all Muslims" who are the problem, but the Extremist Islamists who will celebrate from the Mosque
    if it is built.

    If Al Queda had hit your town and 10 years later, Muslims wanted to
    build a Mosque on or near the site, I would have a problem with that
    as well.

    If this is a group that fervently opposes radicals like Al-Qaeda, I see nothing wrong with it. And the Constitution says there is no damn reason to stop them from building the Cordoba Community Center.

    It's not a group, it's one Imam who claims the US is partly to blame for 9-11. He denies that Hamas is a terrorist outfit. He claims that bin Laden was made in the USA.

    But in your case, along with Newt and Palin, the terroists *HAVE* won. They wanted to sow unreasonable fear and hatred. They succeeded in your case.

    The fear and hatred is coming from your side, bubba.

    Of course if they were wanting to build a Christian Church on the site
    that this mosque is supposed to go, you would be raising hell.

    I wouldn't have cared one way or the other. Why DIDN'T any Christian
    group buy that damaged building?

    Because it is in an area where no one lives. It's all industrial.

    Dont even talk to me about out of state people mucking in the business
    of other states, considering a Wisconsin organization is having
    convulsions on how a hick town to my south is openning its council
    meetings.

    You mean those Jesus freaks in that teeny town, giving the Supreme Court the bird and claiming their faith is so weak it needs a town government
    to prop it up?

    Your hatred is showing.

    Ed

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Ross Cassell on Thu Aug 12 00:02:52 2010
    On 08/11/2010 06:27 PM, Ross Cassell -> Ed Hulett wrote:
    Hello Ed!

    11 Aug 10 21:27, you wrote to Stan Hardegree:

    His heros include the racist Harry Reid (yes, I know he's a fellow
    Mormon) who cannot imagine an Hispanic person being a Republican.

    If Reid is a Mormon, wouldnt that make him in Sauers eyes, a cultist?

    Yep... if he was on the right...

    Ed

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  • From Ross Sauer@1:123/789 to Stan Hardegree on Thu Aug 12 02:05:47 2010
    "Stan Hardegree -> Ed Hulett" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:15009$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    Point 3: It has nothing to do with my original point, namely
    that RS> professional Muslim-haters like Pam Geller, Rush Limbaugh
    and Glenn
    Beck
    are creating religious bigotry to gain political and financial
    gain. RS> And they whip up their followers into near-homicidal
    rages.

    Show that any of those you mentioned hate Muslims. Show that any
    of EH> those you mentioned purposely "whip up [anyone] into
    near-homicidal EH> rages." Prove that their rhetoric incites violence.

    The scumbag mentioned Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin. Otto's
    braindead.

    You're slime.

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to JEFF BINKLEY on Tue Sep 14 19:44:00 2010
    On 09-13-10, BOB KLAHN said to JEFF BINKLEY:


    ...

    doing but I am equally concerned that folks don't abhor
    actions taken by radical Muslims or don't get as wound up



    I am concerned that people aren't worried about radical
    Christians.



    Unfortunately for islam, the fact that they have not taken over the world, is
    a testimony to their moon god and their pedophile founder, mohammed.


    They cannot back down ever, and continue to plot their future conquests.


    America needs to wake up.


    http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_13_The_P...


    ...on page 580 of Maktba Dar-us-Salam's publication of Sahih Al-Bukhari :

    "Jihad is holy fighting in Allah's Cause with full force of weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its Pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah is made superior and He becomes the only God who may be worshiped. By Jihad Islam is propagated and made superior. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position. Their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, and Muslim
    rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape this duty dies as a hypocrite."



    Memorize this paragraph. Shout it out to all who will listen. Every word was derived from the Qur'an. Every word was lived by Muhammad. It accurately represents fundamental Islam, so much so, each of the 150 Hadiths that follow this definition of Jihad speak of fighting; none suggest a spiritual struggle.


    Among them, Muhammad says that the most important deed is Jihad, fighting in Allah's Cause. (Bukhari:V4B52N44) And the Qur'an agrees, saying peaceful Muslims are hypocrites, destined for hell. They are "the worst of creatures," "the most vile of animals." (Qur'an surahs 3 and 33.)


    http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_13_The_P...


    BTW, mohamed is a pedophile. Do a little study about his relationship with the little girl with which he consummated his marriage(he married her when she was six) to her at nine years of age.


    Wow, what a man! What a pervert! What a liberal/progressive, huh? ============================================================================== ==============================================================================

    I'm amazed Otto isn't all over this! If this were about Fred Phelps, or Jimmy Swaggart, he'd be spouting accusations with pervert-sex overtones for months!

    TR

    ============================================================================== ==============================================================================


    when someone burns a Bible. It seems like we have our thinking wrong.


    Yeah, I am not too concerned with what religious text anyone
    burns, as long as he pays for it and it doesn't have particular BK>historical significance.


    However, I am concerned at those who burn anything for the
    purpose of appealing to bigotry and hate.



    One thing to keep in mind here:


    Jesus gave his own life to start the Christian religion.


    Mohammad took the lives of thousands to start the Islamic religion.


    To burn a bible or disrespect one by tearing its pages out, would only inspire a Christian, or whole group of Christians to pray for you.


    To burn a koran or disrespect one by tearing its pages out, will inspire one
    or more muslim Imams to call for your death!


    *Religion of peace*?


    *Mohammad: Child molester, murderer, religious nut case!

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  • From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to Ed Hulett on Thu Aug 12 05:11:00 2010




    The New York City landmarks commission decided this week to
    act RC>> in the RS> interest of New Yorkers rather than out-of-state
    conservative pundits RS> and voted to clear the way for the
    construction of an Islamic center RS> in lower Manhattan, a few
    blocks from the site where the World Trade RS> that this site
    of A

    It is unacceptable to alot of people...

    Not "a lot of people."
    A few bigots.

    The majority of America is against the Mosque. Are the majority of EH>America "a few bigots?"

    Like "American Family Association's" Brian Fischer, who wants to
    ban *ALL* mosques and Muslim buildings in the US. Period.

    You point to one small group and then try to paint anyone and
    everyone with the same brush.

    The left and its lemming followers are on the wrong side of the
    mainstream public on almost every major issue today. This will be
    evident in November.


    Jeff

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Ross Sauer on Thu Aug 12 15:24:11 2010
    On 08/11/2010 11:05 PM, Ross Sauer -> Stan Hardegree wrote:
    "Stan Hardegree -> Ed Hulett" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:15009$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    Point 3: It has nothing to do with my original point, namely
    that RS> professional Muslim-haters like Pam Geller, Rush Limbaugh
    and Glenn
    Beck
    are creating religious bigotry to gain political and financial
    gain. RS> And they whip up their followers into near-homicidal
    rages.

    Show that any of those you mentioned hate Muslims. Show that any
    of EH> those you mentioned purposely "whip up [anyone] into
    near-homicidal EH> rages." Prove that their rhetoric incites violence.

    The scumbag mentioned Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin. Otto's
    braindead.

    You're slime.

    No, you are slime. You celebrated the death of a victim of 9-11 simply because she had the audacity to write a book showing one of your heroes in a bad light.

    http://www.sheboyganpress.com/article/20100808/SHE010301/8080395/-1/obits

    Sorry to hear of your loss, but Stan was referring to you, Otto Ross Sauer.

    Ed

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Jeff Binkley on Thu Aug 12 15:31:48 2010
    On 08/12/2010 02:11 AM, Jeff Binkley -> Ed Hulett wrote:




    The New York City landmarks commission decided this week to
    act RC>> in the RS> interest of New Yorkers rather than out-of-state
    conservative pundits RS> and voted to clear the way for the
    construction of an Islamic center RS> in lower Manhattan, a few
    blocks from the site where the World Trade RS> that this site
    of A

    It is unacceptable to alot of people...

    Not "a lot of people."
    A few bigots.

    The majority of America is against the Mosque. Are the majority of
    America "a few bigots?"

    Like "American Family Association's" Brian Fischer, who wants to
    ban *ALL* mosques and Muslim buildings in the US. Period.

    You point to one small group and then try to paint anyone and
    everyone with the same brush.

    The left and its lemming followers are on the wrong side of the
    mainstream public on almost every major issue today. This will be
    evident in November.

    Indeed it will. There is a good possibility that the Republicans will also take
    the Senate.

    Ed

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  • From Ross Sauer@1:123/789 to Ed Hulett on Thu Aug 12 16:09:54 2010
    "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:15018$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    No, you are slime. You celebrated the death of a victim of 9-11 simply because she had the audacity to write a book showing one of your
    heroes in a bad light.

    No, she was a liar, a hyper-partisan liar who embraced any and every wild
    rumor or innuendo about Bill Clinton.


    http://www.sheboyganpress.com/article/20100808/SHE010301/8080395/-1/o
    bits

    Sorry to hear of your loss, but Stan was referring to you, Otto Ross Sauer.

    Except I'm not Otto. Technically yes, but to everyone who knows our family
    my Dad was Otto, I'm Ross.
    Contiuing to call me Otto is 4th-grade playground reject "nanny nanny poo
    poo" attempts at insult.

    And Stan could hardly claim "I didn't know."

    Since Monday of last week, I posted several threads at DU, detailing my
    Dad's diagnosis of cancer, when we found out it was terminal, when he went
    into a coma and when he died.

    Stan is fond of searching DU for threads I start, hence his referencing my
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  • From Ross Sauer@1:123/789 to Ed Hulett on Thu Aug 12 16:12:03 2010
    "Ed Hulett -> Jeff Binkley" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:15019$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    The left and its lemming followers are on the wrong side of the
    mainstream public on almost every major issue today. This will
    be JB> evident in November.

    Indeed it will. There is a good possibility that the Republicans will
    also take the Senate.

    Can I quote you after November, when as other (no Faux "news") pundits say,
    the democrats increase their majority?

    Don't count on the Tea Party.
    It's burned out.

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  • From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to Ed Hulett on Thu Aug 12 16:06:00 2010




    The New York City landmarks commission decided this week to
    act RC>> in the RS> interest of New Yorkers rather than
    out-of-state RC>>>> conservative pundits RS> and voted to clear the
    way for the construction of an Islamic center RS> in lower
    Manhattan, a few blocks from the site where the World Trade
    that this site of A

    It is unacceptable to alot of people...

    Not "a lot of people."
    A few bigots.

    The majority of America is against the Mosque. Are the majority
    of America "a few bigots?"

    Like "American Family Association's" Brian Fischer, who wants
    to ban *ALL* mosques and Muslim buildings in the US. Period.

    You point to one small group and then try to paint anyone and
    everyone with the same brush.

    The left and its lemming followers are on the wrong side of the mainstream public on almost every major issue today. This will
    be evident in November.

    Indeed it will. There is a good possibility that the Republicans will EH>also take the Senate.

    Perhaps. Just realize the game here may be that the Dems are happy with
    the gains they have made on their social/socialist agenda and now want
    the republcians to take over so that they can blame them for the mess
    the next two years. THus helping BO get re-elected. Don't put anything
    past these folks on the left. They cannot be trusted and must be
    defeated, each and every day.


    Jeff

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Ross Sauer on Thu Aug 12 20:39:19 2010
    On 08/12/2010 01:09 PM, Ross Sauer -> Ed Hulett wrote:
    "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:15018$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    No, you are slime. You celebrated the death of a victim of 9-11 simply
    because she had the audacity to write a book showing one of your
    heroes in a bad light.

    No, she was a liar, a hyper-partisan liar who embraced any and every wild rumor or innuendo about Bill Clinton.

    No, she was a respected journalist who was a victim of the worst terror attack in US history. You may not like what she had to say, but you have yet to show her lies. All you have is hyper-partisan rants calling anyone you don't like a liar.

    http://www.sheboyganpress.com/article/20100808/SHE010301/8080395/-1/o
    bits

    Sorry to hear of your loss, but Stan was referring to you, Otto Ross
    Sauer.

    Except I'm not Otto. Technically yes, but to everyone who knows our family my Dad was Otto, I'm Ross.

    Your name is Otto Ross Sauer, live with it.

    Contiuing to call me Otto is 4th-grade playground reject "nanny nanny poo poo" attempts at insult.

    Only an idiot would claim that calling you by your real name is an insult. You must hate your dad.

    And Stan could hardly claim "I didn't know."

    Really? How so?

    Since Monday of last week, I posted several threads at DU, detailing my Dad's diagnosis of cancer, when we found out it was terminal, when he went into a coma and when he died.

    So what? That doesn't mean Stan knew.

    Stan is fond of searching DU for threads I start, hence his referencing my love of cats, enjoyment of videogames, etc.

    I doubt that Stan goes daily to read what you have to say in the DUmp.

    Besides, he was referring to you, so what's with the phony outrage?

    Ed

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Ross Sauer on Thu Aug 12 20:53:03 2010
    On 08/12/2010 01:12 PM, Ross Sauer -> Ed Hulett wrote:
    "Ed Hulett -> Jeff Binkley" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:15019$POL_DISORDER@JamNNTPd:

    The left and its lemming followers are on the wrong side of the
    mainstream public on almost every major issue today. This will
    be JB> evident in November.

    Indeed it will. There is a good possibility that the Republicans will
    also take the Senate.

    Can I quote you after November, when as other (no Faux "news") pundits
    say,
    the democrats increase their majority?

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What pundit is saying that, Harry Reid? No polster or pundit in their right mind is claiming the Dems increasing their majorities. Congress now has the lowest approval rating in history at 11% and Obama's approval rating is at 40% and dropping fast. The Republican losers in many of the current primaries out-polled the Democrat winners.

    November isn't going to be good for the Dems.

    Don't count on the Tea Party.
    It's burned out.

    Yet another wild claim on your part. You really do need to read more than the HuffPo, Media Matters and Daily Kos and listening to Rachel Maddow and Kieth Olbermann. When you put yourself into an echo chamber all you here is the same thing over and over.

    Ed

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Jeff Binkley on Thu Aug 12 21:02:09 2010
    On 08/12/2010 01:06 PM, Jeff Binkley -> Ed Hulett wrote:




    The New York City landmarks commission decided this week to
    act RC>> in the RS> interest of New Yorkers rather than
    out-of-state RC>>>> conservative pundits RS> and voted to clear the
    way for the construction of an Islamic center RS> in lower
    Manhattan, a few blocks from the site where the World Trade
    that this site of A

    It is unacceptable to alot of people...

    Not "a lot of people."
    A few bigots.

    The majority of America is against the Mosque. Are the majority
    of America "a few bigots?"

    Like "American Family Association's" Brian Fischer, who wants
    to ban *ALL* mosques and Muslim buildings in the US. Period.

    You point to one small group and then try to paint anyone and
    everyone with the same brush.

    The left and its lemming followers are on the wrong side of the
    mainstream public on almost every major issue today. This will
    be evident in November.

    Indeed it will. There is a good possibility that the Republicans will
    also take the Senate.

    Perhaps. Just realize the game here may be that the Dems are happy with the gains they have made on their social/socialist agenda and now want
    the republcians to take over so that they can blame them for the mess
    the next two years. THus helping BO get re-elected. Don't put anything past these folks on the left. They cannot be trusted and must be
    defeated, each and every day.

    They'll blame the Republicans no matter who controls Congress or the WH. I don't think BHO can triangulate like Clinton did and pull himself out of his steady decline in the polls.

    That said, I'm not all that happy with the current Repubs in Congress since most of them seem to be socialist light.

    Ed

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  • From Ross Cassell@1:123/456 to Ross Sauer on Thu Aug 12 21:59:13 2010
    Hello Ross!

    12 Aug 10 16:09, you wrote to Ed Hulett:

    No, you are slime. You celebrated the death of a victim of 9-11
    simply because she had the audacity to write a book showing one
    of your heroes in a bad light.

    No, she was a liar, a hyper-partisan liar who embraced any and every
    wild rumor or innuendo about Bill Clinton.

    **ANYONE** who does not blow smoke up the asses of any and all Democrats, is a liar according to all logic you employ.

    Stan is fond of searching DU for threads I start, hence his
    referencing my love of cats, enjoyment of videogames, etc.

    Perhaps that is related to the fact that you gush over those topics like a teenage girl?


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  • From Ross Cassell@1:123/456 to Ross Sauer on Thu Aug 12 22:15:26 2010
    Hello Ross!

    12 Aug 10 16:12, you wrote to Ed Hulett:

    Can I quote you after November, when as other (no Faux "news") pundits say, the democrats increase their majority?

    What makes you think they will, and if you choose to answer, leave out any of your usual projections, just provide your reasoning.

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Jeff Binkley on Thu Aug 19 18:18:53 2010
    On 08/19/2010 10:09 AM, Jeff Binkley -> Ross Sauer wrote:



    The New York City landmarks commission decided this week to
    act BK> in the RS>> interest of New Yorkers rather than
    out-of-state conservative pundits RS>> and voted to clear the
    way for the construction of an Islamic center RS>> in lower
    Manhattan, a few blocks from the site where the World Trade
    that this site of A

    It is unacceptable to alot of people...

    Which is not relevant to constitutional rights.

    The US is a country with majority Christian as a faith.

    We also get horror stories almost on a daily basis in our media, of
    atrocities caused by radical Muslims.

    So it's only natural, when polled, people are going to answer "no" to
    a question "Should a mosque be allowed to be built at Ground Zero?"

    Rephrase the question accurately, "Should a moderate Muslim
    organization be allowed to build a community center 2 blocks from
    Ground Zero?"

    That will get a more positive result for the poll.

    But people are also susceptible to demagoguery.

    Let us know when you have those poll results and how you will gauge moderate Mulsims. Until then, this is conjecture and wishful thinking.

    What Otto Ar-Kay wants everyone to believe is that the polls so far have used the words "should be allowed." In fact, the polls I have seen have asked if Imam Rauf and his Cordoba Project has the right to build there and a large majority agrees they do while an equal majority then answer that Rauf should build it elsewhere if he truly wants to build bridges between cultures.

    Insisting that it's merely a community center ignores the fact that a mosque is
    a major part of the building.

    What is evident about Otto Ar-Kay and his fellow travelers' support for the Cordoba project Park 51 mosque is that Obama and many pundits on the left have put their support behind it. They make noise about how anyone who opposes Rauf's decision to build there must be a religious bigot or pandering to religious bigots until several prominent Democrats have voiced their opposition.

    What I find hilariously hypocritical is that many, if not most of those now supporting the mosque being built at Park 51 oppose Glenn Beck's 8-28 "Restoring Honor" rally at the Lincoln memorial. While Obama administration members will be speaking at the anti-Beck rally put together by Al Sharpton, Martin Luther King's niece will be speaking at Beck's rally.

    Ed

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to ROSS SAUER on Fri Aug 13 05:35:00 2010
    On 08-12-10, ROSS SAUER said to ED HULETT:


    Since Monday of last week, I posted several threads at DU, detailing my RS>Dad's diagnosis of cancer, when we found out it was terminal, when he went RS>into a coma and when he died.


    I am not going to post up any hateful statements about your father's death,
    the way you did about my wife's death back when she died.


    I'm not going to claim that you `faked' the obit in the paper just to get sympathy, the way you claimed I reported my wife's death just to get sympathy.


    And I'm not going to try to involved others in Fido in an attempt to give you
    a hard time over whether or not your father actually died, unlike the way you tried to do when my wife died.


    And I'm not going to post any expression of sympathy or encouragement to you over your father's death, either. Because I really don't care about anything that happens to you.


    You are one of the most disgusting human beings I've ever had the misfortune
    to be acquainted with. About the only other person who could even come close
    to competing with you in the area of `low life' is maybe Klahn.


    Stan is fond of searching DU for threads I start, hence his referencing my RS>love of cats, enjoyment of videogames, etc.


    I look in DUMBUNDER for some of your silliness once in awhile, also. I just don't do it very often any more. You've toned down over there quite a bit
    since whats-his-face who owns the place got wised up to you. Others over there got tired of you trying to stir up shit against Stan as well, and you aren't nearly as popular over there as you sometimes think.


    By the way.......you'll always be *Otto* as far as I'm concerned.


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  • From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to Ed Hulett on Fri Aug 20 04:56:00 2010


    The New York City landmarks commission decided this week to
    act BK> in the RS>> interest of New Yorkers rather than
    out-of-state conservative pundits RS>> and voted to clear the
    way for the construction of an Islamic center RS>> in lower
    Manhattan, a few blocks from the site where the World Trade
    that this site of A

    It is unacceptable to alot of people...

    Which is not relevant to constitutional rights.

    The US is a country with majority Christian as a faith.

    We also get horror stories almost on a daily basis in our
    media, of atrocities caused by radical Muslims.

    So it's only natural, when polled, people are going to answer
    "no" to a question "Should a mosque be allowed to be built at
    Ground Zero?"

    Rephrase the question accurately, "Should a moderate Muslim
    organization be allowed to build a community center 2 blocks
    from Ground Zero?"

    That will get a more positive result for the poll.

    But people are also susceptible to demagoguery.

    Let us know when you have those poll results and how you will
    gauge moderate Mulsims. Until then, this is conjecture and
    wishful thinking.

    What Otto Ar-Kay wants everyone to believe is that the polls so far
    have used the words "should be allowed." In fact, the polls I have
    seen have asked if Imam Rauf and his Cordoba Project has the right to EH>build there and a large majority agrees they do while an equal
    majority then answer that Rauf should build it elsewhere if he truly EH>wants to build bridges between cultures.

    Insisting that it's merely a community center ignores the fact that a EH>mosque is a major part of the building.

    What is evident about Otto Ar-Kay and his fellow travelers' support
    for the Cordoba project Park 51 mosque is that Obama and many pundits
    on the left have put their support behind it. They make noise about
    how anyone who opposes Rauf's decision to build there must be a
    religious bigot or pandering to religious bigots until several
    prominent Democrats have voiced their opposition.

    What I find hilariously hypocritical is that many, if not most of
    those now supporting the mosque being built at Park 51 oppose Glenn EH>Beck's 8-28 "Restoring Honor" rally at the Lincoln memorial. While
    Obama administration members will be speaking at the anti-Beck rally
    put together by Al Sharpton, Martin Luther King's niece will be
    speaking at Beck's rally.

    These people hate this country but just can't bring themselves to admit
    it.


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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Jeff Binkley on Fri Aug 20 21:30:52 2010
    On 08/20/2010 01:56 AM, Jeff Binkley -> Ed Hulett wrote:


    The New York City landmarks commission decided this week to
    act BK> in the RS>> interest of New Yorkers rather than
    out-of-state conservative pundits RS>> and voted to clear the
    way for the construction of an Islamic center RS>> in lower
    Manhattan, a few blocks from the site where the World Trade
    that this site of A

    It is unacceptable to alot of people...

    Which is not relevant to constitutional rights.

    The US is a country with majority Christian as a faith.

    We also get horror stories almost on a daily basis in our
    media, of atrocities caused by radical Muslims.

    So it's only natural, when polled, people are going to answer
    "no" to a question "Should a mosque be allowed to be built at
    Ground Zero?"

    Rephrase the question accurately, "Should a moderate Muslim
    organization be allowed to build a community center 2 blocks
    from Ground Zero?"

    That will get a more positive result for the poll.

    But people are also susceptible to demagoguery.

    Let us know when you have those poll results and how you will
    gauge moderate Mulsims. Until then, this is conjecture and
    wishful thinking.

    What Otto Ar-Kay wants everyone to believe is that the polls so far
    have used the words "should be allowed." In fact, the polls I have
    seen have asked if Imam Rauf and his Cordoba Project has the right to
    build there and a large majority agrees they do while an equal
    majority then answer that Rauf should build it elsewhere if he truly
    wants to build bridges between cultures.

    Insisting that it's merely a community center ignores the fact that a
    mosque is a major part of the building.

    What is evident about Otto Ar-Kay and his fellow travelers' support
    for the Cordoba project Park 51 mosque is that Obama and many pundits
    on the left have put their support behind it. They make noise about
    how anyone who opposes Rauf's decision to build there must be a
    religious bigot or pandering to religious bigots until several
    prominent Democrats have voiced their opposition.

    What I find hilariously hypocritical is that many, if not most of
    those now supporting the mosque being built at Park 51 oppose Glenn
    Beck's 8-28 "Restoring Honor" rally at the Lincoln memorial. While
    Obama administration members will be speaking at the anti-Beck rally
    put together by Al Sharpton, Martin Luther King's niece will be
    speaking at Beck's rally.

    These people hate this country but just can't bring themselves to admit it.

    Among themselves, they admit it, in public they deny it.

    Ed

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