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    From "Yahoo finalphilthoughts@yahoo.com@1:3634/1000 to All on Sun Apr 19 19:16:21 2015



    Hi. I'm a novice warp 3 user. I'm a philosophy prof in Houston and I've used os/2 in some of my work (because it's so stable I never worry about losing anything). However, being a novice I was hoping I could get a little help in this forum. The most immediate issue is how to get the right video driver installed so that I can stop using this old crt and use a flat panel monitor.


    It's an old 386, at 40 Mgh, but she's got a few modifications (as Han Solo said). No cd drive, but I have warp 3 on floppy. ..32 meg of memory.


    Any help would be appreciated.


    Thanks.




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  • From "Felix Miata mrmazda@earthlink.net@1:3634/1000 to All on Sun Apr 19 20:37:18 2015

    finalphilthoughts@yahoo.com composed on 2015-04-19 18:16 (UTC-0500):

    I'm a novice warp 3 user. I'm a philosophy prof in Houston and I've
    used os/2 in some of my work (because it's so stable I never worry about losing anything). However, being a novice I was hoping I could get a
    little help in this forum. The most immediate issue is how to get the
    right video driver installed so that I can stop using this old crt and use
    a flat panel monitor.

    It's an old 386, at 40 Mgh, but she's got a few modifications (as Han Solo said). No cd drive, but I have warp 3 on floppy. ..32 meg of memory.

    Odds are the video card you have supports standard VESA modes. Among them are 800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024. Most or all of these are supported by most flat panel displays, though using them on a widescreen display will
    definitely produce horizontal stretch that most people do not like. Flat
    panels that have 1280x1024 as native preferred mode are still available new. 1024x768 may be as well, maybe not new, but certainly used.

    IIRC, the Warp installation media contained drivers specific for the common video chips of the day, such as ATI, Cirrus Logic, Oak, Everex, Genoa, S3, Trident, Tseng and others. If my memory is wrong on this, then it should be Hobbes that has them for download now in zip files containing readme files to explain how to install them. I was using Tseng 4000 when Warp 3 and Warp 4
    were new. The Tseng driver was a pain to install, but worth it.

    I suspect if you want any widescreen mode on a 486 ISA or VLB bus you're
    going to be out of luck. One exception might possibly be the most common currently available one, 1920x1080, which is one of the HDTV modes that originated last century. If you have PCI you should be in much better shape.
    If you have a choice, you'll probably be best off if your video choice is ATI.

    Maybe someone else knows if the Snap driver on Hobbes could be used in Warp
    3. If yes, it's the best way to go, and will support widescreen modes if
    using the right video hardware. Even this way, ATI is probably going to be
    the ideal, maybe only, choice, especially if you don't have PCI video hardware.

    Knowing what the video card's main chip has printed on it will help you get
    the best help.
    --
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    words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

    Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

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  • From "'Phil Parker' phil@math.wichita.ed@1:3634/1000 to All on Mon Apr 20 02:47:49 2015


    On 04/19/2015 at 08:37 PM, "Felix Miata mrmazda@earthlink.net [os2user]" <os2user@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

    Maybe someone else knows if the Snap driver on Hobbes could be used in Warp >3.

    Yes, I used it for many years (before going from a heavily modified and
    tweaked 3+ to eCS 1.2, bypassing 4 altogether). Nothing other than bare 3 is required; my office machine still runs Connect (FP 17?) with SNAP 3.18,
    albeit almost only as a server for my home machine.

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  • From "Yahoo finalphilthoughts@yahoo.com@1:3634/1000 to All on Tue Apr 21 00:15:05 2015

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    Wow. That may be above my skill level (in fact, OS/2 may be above my level)=
    . When I go into bios it states Speedstar hicolor version 5.00 from Diamond=
    Comp. I take it that's my video card.=20

    Among the floppies that I have with Warp 3 are two or three that say "video=
    drivers" on them.=20

    Sent from the Planet Xrgklpr

    On Apr 19, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Felix Miata mrmazda@earthlink.net [os2user] =
    <os2user@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
    =20
    finalphilthoughts@yahoo.com composed on 2015-04-19 18:16 (UTC-0500):
    =20
    I'm a novice warp 3 user. I'm a philosophy prof in Houston and I've
    used os/2 in some of my work (because it's so stable I never worry abou=
    t
    losing anything). However, being a novice I was hoping I could get a
    little help in this forum. The most immediate issue is how to get the
    right video driver installed so that I can stop using this old crt and =
    use
    a flat panel monitor.
    =20
    It's an old 386, at 40 Mgh, but she's got a few modifications (as Han S=
    olo
    said). No cd drive, but I have warp 3 on floppy. ..32 meg of memory.
    =20
    Odds are the video card you have supports standard VESA modes. Among them=
    are
    800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024. Most or all of these are supported by mo=
    st
    flat panel displays, though using them on a widescreen display will definitely produce horizontal stretch that most people do not like. Flat panels that have 1280x1024 as native preferred mode are still available n=
    ew.
    1024x768 may be as well, maybe not new, but certainly used.
    =20
    IIRC, the Warp installation media contained drivers specific for the comm=
    on
    video chips of the day, such as ATI, Cirrus Logic, Oak, Everex, Genoa, S3=
    ,
    Trident, Tseng and others. If my memory is wrong on this, then it should =
    be
    Hobbes that has them for download now in zip files containing readme file=
    s to
    explain how to install them. I was using Tseng 4000 when Warp 3 and Warp =
    4
    were new. The Tseng driver was a pain to install, but worth it.
    =20
    I suspect if you want any widescreen mode on a 486 ISA or VLB bus you're going to be out of luck. One exception might possibly be the most common currently available one, 1920x1080, which is one of the HDTV modes that originated last century. If you have PCI you should be in much better sha=
    pe.
    If you have a choice, you'll probably be best off if your video choice is=
    ATI.
    =20
    Maybe someone else knows if the Snap driver on Hobbes could be used in Wa=
    rp
    3. If yes, it's the best way to go, and will support widescreen modes if using the right video hardware. Even this way, ATI is probably going to b=
    e
    the ideal, maybe only, choice, especially if you don't have PCI video har=
    dware.
    =20
    Knowing what the video card's main chip has printed on it will help you g=
    et
    the best help.
    --=20
    "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
    words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
    =20
    Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
    =20
    Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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    <div>Wow. That may be above my skill level (in fact, OS/2 may be above my level). When I go into bios it states Speedstar hicolor version 5.00 from Diamond Comp. I take it that's my video card.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Among the floppies that I have with Warp 3 are two or three that say "video drivers" on them.&nbsp;<br><br>Sent from the Planet Xrgklpr</div><div><br>On Apr 19, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Felix Miata <a href="mailto:mrmazda@earthlink.net">mrmazda@earthlink.net</a> [os2user] &lt;<a href="mailto:os2user@yahoogroups.com">os2user@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>














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    <p><a href="mailto:finalphilthoughts@yahoo.com">finalphilthoughts@yahoo.com</a> composed on 2015-04-19 18:16 (UTC-0500):<br>

    &gt; I'm a novice warp 3 user. I'm a philosophy prof in Houston and I've<br> &gt; used os/2 in some of my work (because it's so stable I never worry about<br>
    &gt; losing anything). However, being a novice I was hoping I could get a<br> &gt; little help in this forum. The most immediate issue is how to get the<br> &gt; right video driver installed so that I can stop using this old crt and use<br>
    &gt; a flat panel monitor.<br>

    &gt; It's an old 386, at 40 Mgh, but she's got a few modifications (as Han Solo<br>
    &gt; said). No cd drive, but I have warp 3 on floppy. ..32 meg of memory.<br>

    Odds are the video card you have supports standard VESA modes. Among them are<br>
    800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024. Most or all of these are supported by most<br> flat panel displays, though using them on a widescreen display will<br> definitely produce horizontal stretch that most people do not like. Flat<br> panels that have 1280x1024 as native preferred mode are still available new.<br>
    1024x768 may be as well, maybe not new, but certainly used.<br>

    IIRC, the Warp installation media contained drivers specific for the common<br> video chips of the day, such as ATI, Cirrus Logic, Oak, Everex, Genoa, S3,<br> Trident, Tseng and others. If my memory is wrong on this, then it should be<br> Hobbes that has them for download now in zip files containing readme files to<br>
    explain how to install them. I was using Tseng 4000 when Warp 3 and Warp 4<br> were new. The Tseng driver was a pain to install, but worth it.<br>

    I suspect if you want any widescreen mode on a 486 ISA or VLB bus you're<br> going to be out of luck. One exception might possibly be the most common<br> currently available one, 1920x1080, which is one of the HDTV modes that<br> originated last century. If you have PCI you should be in much better shape.<br>
    If you have a choice, you'll probably be best off if your video choice is ATI.<br>

    Maybe someone else knows if the Snap driver on Hobbes could be used in Warp<br> 3. If yes, it's the best way to go, and will support widescreen modes if<br> using the right video hardware. Even this way, ATI is probably going to be<br> the ideal, maybe only, choice, especially if you don't have PCI video hardware.<br>

    Knowing what the video card's main chip has printed on it will help you get<br> the best help.<br>
    -- <br>
    "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant<br>
    words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)<br>

    Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!<br>

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  • From "Felix Miata mrmazda@earthlink.net@1:3634/1000 to All on Tue Apr 21 04:02:44 2015

    finalphilthoughts@yahoo.com composed on 2015-04-20 23:15 (UTC-0500):

    Wow. That may be above my skill level (in fact, OS/2 may be above my
    level). When I go into bios it states Speedstar hicolor version 5.00 from Diamond Comp. I take it that's my video card.

    Diamond was a brand that didn't make its own video chips. You can try to
    match that model up with a chip type off the internet, or open it up and
    find the numbers on the card's biggest chip. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_Multimedia says the Speedstar used
    various chips.

    Among the floppies that I have with Warp 3 are two or three that say
    "video drivers" on them.

    If Phil is right, the Snap driver will work, and probably work best.

    ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/system/drivers/video/snap-os2-3.1.8.zip
    --
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    words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

    Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/17 to "Yahoo finalphilthoughts@yahoo.com on Sun Apr 26 12:28:24 2015
    Hi. I'm a novice warp 3 user. I'm a philosophy prof in Houston and I've used os/2 in some of my work (because it's so stable I never worry about losing anything). However, being a novice I was hoping I could get a little help in this forum. The most immediate issue is how to get the right video driver installed so that I can stop using this old crt and use a flat panel monitor.

    I think the only thing you really have to worry about is the drivers for your video card. If they work, then, AFAICT, a flat panel monitor would work just fine by just plugging it in and powering it up.

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  • From "os2userl@ftn.wpusa.dynip.com [os2u@1:3634/1000 to All on Sun Apr 26 16:44:08 2015

    Hi. I'm a novice warp 3 user. I'm a philosophy prof in Houston and
    I've used os/2 in some of my work (because it's so stable I never
    worry about losing anything). However, being a novice I was hoping I
    could get a little help in this forum. The most immediate issue is
    how to get the right video driver installed so that I can stop using
    this old crt and use a flat panel monitor.

    I think the only thing you really have to worry about is the drivers for your video card. If they work, then, AFAICT, a flat panel monitor would work just fine by just plugging it in and powering it up.

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  • From "'Phil Parker' phil@math.wichita.ed@1:3634/1000 to All on Mon Apr 27 00:20:12 2015


    On 04/26/2015 at 04:44 PM, "os2userl@ftn.wpusa.dynip.com [os2user]" <os2user@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

    I think the only thing you really have to worry about is the drivers for
    your video card. If they work, then, AFAICT, a flat panel monitor would
    work just fine by just plugging it in and powering it up.

    At least with SNAP that has been my experience, with half a dozen or so LCD flat-panel displays of as many different brands.

    There are only two things different from CRTs with contemporary LCDs. One is that things work best if you set the display resolution to exactly the
    native resolution of the LCD. (It's usually on the box, if not on the unit itself.) The other is to set the refresh rate to 60 Hz and no more. LCDs
    tend not to like rates any higher at all.

    --
    Best wishes,
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    and for deeds left undone.---Harriet Beecher Stowe




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  • From "Felix Miata mrmazda@earthlink.net@1:3634/1000 to All on Mon Apr 27 14:36:21 2015

    Phil Parker composed on 2015-04-26 23:20 (UTC-0500):

    There are only two things different from CRTs with contemporary LCDs. One is that things work best if you set the display resolution to exactly the
    native resolution of the LCD.

    That's the theory, and typically the practice. The higher the resolution, the higher the technical quality.

    But with higher resolution, software assumptions can break down for
    individual users. The net effect is that user experience can be degraded because onscreen objects, text in particular, become smaller, reducing effective legibility and inducing eyestrain and backstrain (from leaning forward, often unconsciously). Personalization of software to compensate
    (make things bigger) may or may not be adequate.

    The other is to set the refresh rate to 60 Hz and no more. LCDs
    tend not to like rates any higher at all.

    Most LCDs support all VESA modes. Among them are usually 75 in addition to
    60, at least for 1024x768 and lower. Whether there's any user benefit to
    using 75 instead of 60 is another matter. I've never been able to detect any. --
    "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
    words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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  • From "Yahoo finalphilthoughts@yahoo.com@1:3634/1000 to All on Tue Apr 28 23:21:03 2015

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    Ok, thanks. One other video question for you Warp experts: I have managed =
    to get Warp 4 on a box and am displaying it on a 36" tv. It is set to 480. =
    If I raise it to 800x600, which will require a reboot to take effect, will =
    it auto revert back so I still have a display if for some reason it doesn't=
    like the higher resolution?


    Sent from the Planet Xrgklpr


    On Apr 27, 2=
    015, at 1:36 PM, Felix Miata mrmazda@earthlink.net [os2user] <os2user@yahoo= groups.com> wrote:

    Phil Parker composed on 2015-04-26 23:20 (UTC-0500)=
    :

    There are only two things different from CRTs with contemporary LC=
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    That's the theory, and ty=
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    But with higher resolution, software assumptions can break d=
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    individual users. The net effect is that user experience can be d=
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    because onscreen objects, text in particular, become smaller, red=
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    effective legibility and inducing eyestrain and backstrain (from le=
    aning
    forward, often unconsciously). Personalization of software to compe=
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    (make things bigger) may or may not be adequate.

    The other i=
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    Most LCDs support all VESA modes. Among them a=
    re usually 75 in addition to
    60, at least for 1024x768 and lower. Whether=
    there's any user benefit to
    using 75 instead of 60 is another matter. I'=
    ve never been able to detect any.
    --
    "The wise are known for their und=
    erstanding, and pleasant
    words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Livin=
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    <div><span></span></div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Ok, thanks. One other video question for you Warp experts: &nbsp;I have managed to get Warp 4 on a box and am displaying it on a 36" tv. It is set to 480. If I raise it to 800x600, which will require a reboot to take effect, will it auto revert back so I still have a display if for some reason it doesn't like the higher resolution?&nbsp;<br><br>Sent from the Planet Xrgklpr<div><br>On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Felix Miata <a href="mailto:mrmazda@earthlink.net">mrmazda@earthlink.net</a> [os2user] &lt;<a href="mailto:os2user@yahoogroups.com">os2user@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>



























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    <p>Phil Parker composed on 2015-04-26 23:20 (UTC-0500):<br>

    &gt; There are only two things different from CRTs with contemporary LCDs. One is<br>
    &gt; that things work best if you set the display resolution to exactly the<br> &gt; native resolution of the LCD.<br>

    That's the theory, and typically the practice. The higher the resolution, the<br>
    higher the technical quality.<br>

    But with higher resolution, software assumptions can break down for<br> individual users. The net effect is that user experience can be degraded<br> because onscreen objects, text in particular, become smaller, reducing<br> effective legibility and inducing eyestrain and backstrain (from leaning<br> forward, often unconsciously). Personalization of software to compensate<br> (make things bigger) may or may not be adequate.<br>

    &gt; The other is to set the refresh rate to 60 Hz and no more. LCDs<br>
    &gt; tend not to like rates any higher at all.<br>

    Most LCDs support all VESA modes. Among them are usually 75 in addition to<br> 60, at least for 1024x768 and lower. Whether there's any user benefit to<br> using 75 instead of 60 is another matter. I've never been able to detect any.<br>
    -- <br>
    "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant<br>
    words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)<br>

    Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!<br>

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  • From "Stephan Bucher stephan.bucher@bioc@1:3634/1000 to All on Wed Apr 29 14:16:18 2015

    It will not, but OS/2 always boots at 640x480 during the first phase.
    You can always press Alt-F1 when "OS/2" appears in the top left corner
    and then choose VGA and other options from a menu. If you select VGA,
    you need to reinstall SNAP. You can boot to text mode that way and
    configure SNAP. The problem is that SNAP can't handle the resolution of
    wide screens; up to 1280x1024 is fine.

    On 29.04.2015 05:21, Yahoo finalphilthoughts@yahoo.com [os2user] wrote:
    Ok, thanks. One other video question for you Warp experts: I have
    managed to get Warp 4 on a box and am displaying it on a 36" tv. It is
    set to 480. If I raise it to 800x600, which will require a reboot to
    take effect, will it auto revert back so I still have a display if for
    some reason it doesn't like the higher resolution?

    Sent from the Planet Xrgklpr

    On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Felix Miata mrmazda@earthlink.net <mailto:mrmazda@earthlink.net> [os2user] <os2user@yahoogroups.com <mailto:os2user@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

    Phil Parker composed on 2015-04-26 23:20 (UTC-0500):

    There are only two things different from CRTs with contemporary
    LCDs. One is
    that things work best if you set the display resolution to exactly the
    native resolution of the LCD.

    That's the theory, and typically the practice. The higher the
    resolution, the
    higher the technical quality.

    But with higher resolution, software assumptions can break down for
    individual users. The net effect is that user experience can be degraded
    because onscreen objects, text in particular, become smaller, reducing
    effective legibility and inducing eyestrain and backstrain (from leaning
    forward, often unconsciously). Personalization of software to compensate
    (make things bigger) may or may not be adequate.

    The other is to set the refresh rate to 60 Hz and no more. LCDs
    tend not to like rates any higher at all.

    Most LCDs support all VESA modes. Among them are usually 75 in
    addition to
    60, at least for 1024x768 and lower. Whether there's any user benefit to
    using 75 instead of 60 is another matter. I've never been able to
    detect any.
    --
    "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
    words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

    Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

    Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/



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    On Thu, 30 Apr 2015, Luc Mccarragher wrote to "merlincp2@gmail.com [os2user]":

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  • From "os2userl@ftn.wpusa.dynip.com [os2u@1:3634/1000 to All on Fri May 1 11:17:04 2015

    It will not, but OS/2 always boots at 640x480 during the first phase.
    You can always press Alt-F1 when "OS/2" appears in the top left corne
    and then choose VGA and other options from a menu. If you select VGA,
    you need to reinstall SNAP. You can boot to text mode that way and
    configure SNAP. The problem is that SNAP can't handle the resolution
    of wide screens; up to 1280x1024 is fine.

    Yeah, I found this out the hard way with eCS running under VPC 2007. I
    can only use MOST of my 21' LCD display when in full-screen mode, but
    not all of it. :(

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    Thanks. I've got it running now at 1024 @ 60Hz, connected from my laptop to=
    a 36" tv and it's doing fine, very readable. Btw, I've loaded Describe 5 u= nder Warp 4 and it's a really great set up. I'm writing final exams with it=
    and printing to my old Laserjet 4M+.


    Sent from the Planet Xrgklpr


    On A=
    pr 29, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Stephan Bucher stephan.bucher@bioconsult.ch [os2us= er] <os2user@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

    It will not, but OS/2 always boot=
    s at 640x480 during the first phase.
    You can always press Alt-F1 when "O=
    S/2" appears in the top left corner
    and then choose VGA and other option=
    s from a menu. If you select VGA,
    you need to reinstall SNAP. You can bo=
    ot to text mode that way and
    configure SNAP. The problem is that SNAP ca=
    n't handle the resolution of
    wide screens; up to 1280x1024 is fine.

    =
    On 29.04.2015 05:21, Yahoo finalphilthoughts@yahoo.com [os2user] wrote:
    =
    Ok, thanks. One other video question for you Warp experts: I have
    ma=
    naged to get Warp 4 on a box and am displaying it on a 36" tv. It is
    s=
    et to 480. If I raise it to 800x600, which will require a reboot to
    ta=
    ke effect, will it auto revert back so I still have a display if for
    s=
    ome reason it doesn't like the higher resolution?

    Sent from the Pla=
    net Xrgklpr

    On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Felix Miata mrmazda@earthl=
    ink.net
    <mailto:mrmazda@earthlink.net> [os2user] <os2user@yahoogroups.=
    com
    <mailto:os2user@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

    Phil Parker comp=
    osed on 2015-04-26 23:20 (UTC-0500):

    There are only two things =
    different from CRTs with contemporary
    LCDs. One is
    that things=
    work best if you set the display resolution to exactly the
    native r=
    esolution of the LCD.

    That's the theory, and typically the practi=
    ce. The higher the
    resolution, the
    higher the technical quality.=



    But with higher resolution, software assumptions can break down =
    for
    individual users. The net effect is that user experience can be de=
    graded
    because onscreen objects, text in particular, become smaller, r=
    educing
    effective legibility and inducing eyestrain and backstrain (fr=
    om leaning
    forward, often unconsciously). Personalization of software =
    to compensate
    (make things bigger) may or may not be adequate.

    =
    The other is to set the refresh rate to 60 Hz and no more. LCDs
    =
    tend not to like rates any higher at all.

    Most LCDs support all =
    VESA modes. Among them are usually 75 in
    addition to
    60, at leas=
    t for 1024x768 and lower. Whether there's any user benefit to
    using 75=
    instead of 60 is another matter. I've never been able to
    detect any.=


    --
    "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
    =
    words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

    =
    Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

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    <div>Thanks. I've got it running now at 1024 @ 60Hz, connected from my laptop to a 36" tv and it's doing fine, very readable. Btw, I've loaded Describe 5 under Warp 4 and it's a really great set up. I'm writing final exams with it and printing to my old Laserjet 4M+.<br><br>Sent from the Planet Xrgklpr</div><div><br>On Apr 29, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Stephan Bucher <a href="mailto:stephan.bucher@bioconsult.ch">stephan.bucher@bioconsult.ch</a> [os2user] &lt;<a href="mailto:os2user@yahoogroups.com">os2user@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>



























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    <p>It will not, but OS/2 always boots at 640x480 during the first phase.

    You can always press Alt-F1 when "OS/2" appears in the top left corner <br>
    and then choose VGA and other options from a menu. If you select VGA, <br>
    you need to reinstall SNAP. You can boot to text mode that way and <br> configure SNAP. The problem is that SNAP can't handle the resolution of <br> wide screens; up to 1280x1024 is fine.<br>

    On 29.04.2015 05:21, Yahoo <a href="mailto:finalphilthoughts@yahoo.com">finalphilthoughts@yahoo.com</a> [os2user] wrote:<br>
    &gt; Ok, thanks. One other video question for you Warp experts: I have <br> &gt; managed to get Warp 4 on a box and am displaying it on a 36" tv. It is

    &gt; set to 480. If I raise it to 800x600, which will require a reboot to <br> &gt; take effect, will it auto revert back so I still have a display if for

    &gt; some reason it doesn't like the higher resolution?<br>
    &gt;<br>
    &gt; Sent from the Planet Xrgklpr<br>
    &gt;<br>
    &gt; On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Felix Miata <a href="mailto:mrmazda@earthlink.net">mrmazda@earthlink.net</a> <br>
    &gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:mrmazda@earthlink.net">mailto:mrmazda@earthlink.net</a>&gt; [os2user] &lt;<a href="mailto:os2user@yahoogroups.com">os2user@yahoogroups.com</a> <br>
    &gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:os2user@yahoogroups.com">mailto:os2user@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
    &gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; Phil Parker composed on 2015-04-26 23:20 (UTC-0500):<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; &gt; There are only two things different from CRTs with contemporary

    &gt;&gt; LCDs. One is<br>
    &gt;&gt; &gt; that things work best if you set the display resolution to exactly the<br>
    &gt;&gt; &gt; native resolution of the LCD.<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; That's the theory, and typically the practice. The higher the <br> &gt;&gt; resolution, the<br>
    &gt;&gt; higher the technical quality.<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; But with higher resolution, software assumptions can break down for<br>
    &gt;&gt; individual users. The net effect is that user experience can be degraded<br>
    &gt;&gt; because onscreen objects, text in particular, become smaller, reducing<br>
    &gt;&gt; effective legibility and inducing eyestrain and backstrain (from leaning<br>
    &gt;&gt; forward, often unconsciously). Personalization of software to compensate<br>
    &gt;&gt; (make things bigger) may or may not be adequate.<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; &gt; The other is to set the refresh rate to 60 Hz and no more. LCDs<br>
    &gt;&gt; &gt; tend not to like rates any higher at all.<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; Most LCDs support all VESA modes. Among them are usually 75 in <br> &gt;&gt; addition to<br>
    &gt;&gt; 60, at least for 1024x768 and lower. Whether there's any user benefit to<br>
    &gt;&gt; using 75 instead of 60 is another matter. I've never been able to <br> &gt;&gt; detect any.<br>
    &gt;&gt; -- <br>
    &gt;&gt; "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant<br>
    &gt;&gt; words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)<br> &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; Felix Miata *** <a href="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</a><br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; <br>
    &gt;<br>
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