Julian Thomas wrote:

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 04:38:13 +0000 (UTC) rallee2@comcast.net wrote:

Enough hardware war stories, back to OS/2... Do I understand you correctly that you got a PCMCIA ethernet

card that worked with OS/2.

Sounded like he did, and I had a Cisco 340 or 350 - both worked with OS2.

PCMCIA or PC-Card ethernet (and some 802.11b Wifi cards) work on some
laptops. The question is whether there are drivers for the interface
chipset, that the "card services" software talks to. It can be tricky to
set up and get working but like a lot of things OS/2 once set up it will normally work without problem for many years (i.e. until the hardware
breaks). I ran my home router usin Injoy firewall on an old IBM Thinkpad
365 with two Ethernet PCMCIA cards - one IBM, one Xircom for over 5 years.

Suggested makes of card - IBM, Xircom and Cisco for (11Mb/s) WiFi. I'm
sure there are others but these will be easy options.

All cards are PC-Card format and come as PCMCIA (16 bit) or Cardbus (32bit).

I would recommend going this route rather than USB-Ethernet as you are
more likely to have success - I don't know of any working USB-Ethernet
drivers - there was one supplied with OS/2 Warp CP2 for one specific usb
device - which I never found listed anywhere for sale. The other
advantage of going PC-CARD is that the adapter doesn't stick out of the
side of the laptop, just waiting to snag on something.

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Cheers/2

Ed

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Ed Durrant wrote:

I would recommend going this route rather than USB-Ethernet as you are
more likely to have success - I don't know of any working USB-Ethernet drivers - there was one supplied with OS/2 Warp CP2 for one specific usb device - which I never found listed anywhere for sale. The other
advantage of going PC-CARD is that the adapter doesn't stick out of the
side of the laptop, just waiting to snag on something.

My current laptop does not have an OS/2 wireless NIC driver. So I am
using Linksys WET54G (Wireless Ethernet bridge). There are no drivers required, but it does require a couple CMD files under OS/2. Under XP
it just works.

It is on an Ethernet cable so it is not part of the computer. That
means I can put it on the roof of a vehicle and as a second bonus the
antenna has an SMA connector so I can run my choice of antenna; hi gain,
omni, directional,,,.

Ray





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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Durrant" <edurrant@durrant.mine.nu>
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Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:35:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: PC-Card Ethernet WAS:(Re: [OS2HW] USB to Ethernet)






Julian Thomas wrote:

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 04:38:13 +0000 (UTC) rallee2@comcast.net wrote:

Enough hardware war stories, back to OS/2... Do I understand you correctly that you got a PCMCIA ethernet

card that worked with OS/2.

Sounded like he did, and I had a Cisco 340 or 350 - both worked with OS2.

PCMCIA or PC-Card ethernet (and some 802.11b Wifi cards) work on some
laptops. The question is whether there are drivers for the interface
chipset, that the "card services" software talks to. It can be tricky to
set up and get working but like a lot of things OS/2 once set up it will normally work without problem for many years (i.e. until the hardware
breaks). I ran my home router usin Injoy firewall on an old IBM Thinkpad
365 with two Ethernet PCMCIA cards - one IBM, one Xircom for over 5 years.

Suggested makes of card - IBM, Xircom and Cisco for (11Mb/s) WiFi. I'm
sure there are others but these will be easy options.

All cards are PC-Card format and come as PCMCIA (16 bit) or Cardbus (32bit).

I would recommend going this route rather than USB-Ethernet as you are
more likely to have success - I don't know of any working USB-Ethernet
drivers - there was one supplied with OS/2 Warp CP2 for one specific usb device - which I never found listed anywhere for sale. The other
advantage of going PC-CARD is that the adapter doesn't stick out of the
side of the laptop, just waiting to snag on something.

--
Cheers/2

Ed

Thank you Ed for what seems like really good advice in the longer run especially now that many hours of searching, trying and rebooting endlessly have not rewarded me with working USB in some cases and certainly with USB to Ethernet.

However before I repeat this rather agonizing performance can you (or someone) find the time to offer some pointers and/or things to avoid (or if it's even possible) in setting up this laptop.... it's my first real laptop and
I know very little about CardBus or PSMCIA. I'm investing time in this aging "beater" exactly so I can learn at the school of crash 'n burn and recover but I'd like to streamline the process a little.

It's a Sony PCG-430 so it has the venerable Intel 440BX chipset and apparently the cardbus was made for Sony by Ricoh. So far I have found no specific Ricoh drivers but there are some really great deals to be had for cards so I'm very interested in getting this working. Communication with other
computers was the main raison d'etre for OS/2 in the first place and it was not
intended that it be relegated to floppies and CDs.

Thank you
Jimmy


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rallee2@comcast.net wrote:

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From: "Ed Durrant" <edurrant@durrant.mine.nu>
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Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:35:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: PC-Card Ethernet WAS:(Re: [OS2HW] USB to Ethernet)

Julian Thomas wrote:

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 04:38:13 +0000 (UTC) rallee2@comcast.net wrote:

Enough hardware war stories, back to OS/2... Do I understand you correctly that you got a PCMCIA ethernet

card that worked with OS/2.

Sounded like he did, and I had a Cisco 340 or 350 - both worked with OS2. >>

PCMCIA or PC-Card ethernet (and some 802.11b Wifi cards) work on some laptops. The question is whether there are drivers for the interface chipset, that the "card services" software talks to. It can be tricky to
set up and get working but like a lot of things OS/2 once set up it will normally work without problem for many years (i.e. until the hardware breaks). I ran my home router usin Injoy firewall on an old IBM Thinkpad
365 with two Ethernet PCMCIA cards - one IBM, one Xircom for over 5 years.

Suggested makes of card - IBM, Xircom and Cisco for (11Mb/s) WiFi. I'm
sure there are others but these will be easy options.

All cards are PC-Card format and come as PCMCIA (16 bit) or Cardbus (32bit).

I would recommend going this route rather than USB-Ethernet as you are
more likely to have success - I don't know of any working USB-Ethernet drivers - there was one supplied with OS/2 Warp CP2 for one specific usb device - which I never found listed anywhere for sale. The other
advantage of going PC-CARD is that the adapter doesn't stick out of the
side of the laptop, just waiting to snag on something.

Ed

Thank you Ed for what seems like really good advice in the longer run especially now that many hours of searching, trying and rebooting endlessly have not rewarded me with working USB in some cases and certainly with USB to Ethernet.

However before I repeat this rather agonizing performance can you (or someone) find the time to offer some pointers and/or things to avoid (or if it's even possible) in setting up this laptop.... it's my first real laptop and
I know very little about CardBus or PSMCIA. I'm investing time in this aging "beater" exactly so I can learn at the school of crash 'n burn and recover but I'd like to streamline the process a little.

It's a Sony PCG-430 so it has the venerable Intel 440BX chipset and apparently the cardbus was made for Sony by Ricoh. So far I have found no specific Ricoh drivers but there are some really great deals to be had for cards so I'm very interested in getting this working. Communication with other
computers was the main raison d'etre for OS/2 in the first place and it was not
intended that it be relegated to floppies and CDs.

Thank you

Jimmy


The time I used PCMCIA and a laptop (different thinkpads only in my case) was some time back and I'm probably not the best person at the moment to give detailed advice on this as it would be based on my memories of things I did 7 years ago. Since moving to Netbooks I no longer have a laptop with PCMCIA where
I could test things out.

I'm sure there are good instructional articles on the net - perhaps OS2VOICE, OS2warp.be and ecomstation.ru are good spots to start? I'm also sure there are others on this list running PCMCIA cards in laptops that would have more up to date information.

As for the Ricoh PCMCIA chipset, I do remember a Ricoh chipset was quite common
and worked well, so hopefully that's not going to be a problem. During the eCS Silver install, did the install spot the correct chipset and install the drivers for you? This would be (under advanced install) under the laptop specific section.




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My ThinkPad A20m has Ethernet with OS/2 using a Netgear WG511 card with
the Atheros chipset. Hopefully support for the Broadcom chipset will be
in eCS 2.0 GA.
Norm Metcalf, Boulder Colorado

rallee2@comcast.net wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Durrant" <edurrant@durrant.mine.nu>
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Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:35:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: PC-Card Ethernet WAS:(Re: [OS2HW] USB to Ethernet)

Julian Thomas wrote:

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 04:38:13 +0000 (UTC) rallee2@comcast.net wrote:

Enough hardware war stories, back to OS/2... Do I understand you correctly that you got a PCMCIA ethernet

card that worked with OS/2.

Sounded like he did, and I had a Cisco 340 or 350 - both worked with OS2. >>

PCMCIA or PC-Card ethernet (and some 802.11b Wifi cards) work on some laptops. The question is whether there are drivers for the interface chipset, that the "card services" software talks to. It can be tricky to
set up and get working but like a lot of things OS/2 once set up it will normally work without problem for many years (i.e. until the hardware breaks). I ran my home router usin Injoy firewall on an old IBM Thinkpad
365 with two Ethernet PCMCIA cards - one IBM, one Xircom for over 5 years.

Suggested makes of card - IBM, Xircom and Cisco for (11Mb/s) WiFi. I'm
sure there are others but these will be easy options.

All cards are PC-Card format and come as PCMCIA (16 bit) or Cardbus (32bit).

I would recommend going this route rather than USB-Ethernet as you are
more likely to have success - I don't know of any working USB-Ethernet drivers - there was one supplied with OS/2 Warp CP2 for one specific usb device - which I never found listed anywhere for sale. The other
advantage of going PC-CARD is that the adapter doesn't stick out of the
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