• SyncTerm - 64b/AMD64 DEB's?

    From rick christian@1:3634/12 to All on Tue Sep 13 12:14:10 2016
    I am looking for SyncTerm DEB files or PPA with same for *buntu based distros from 10.10 Maverick to 14.04 ESR.

    The one PPA which has this only has a 32b, not64b/AMD64 or has it but the build
    failed.

    Any one have DEBS for the above or a PPA I am not finding?

    Thanks.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.1 to rick christian on Tue Sep 13 11:10:32 2016
    Re: SyncTerm - 64b/AMD64 DEB's?
    By: rick christian to All on Tue Sep 13 2016 12:14 pm

    I am looking for SyncTerm DEB files or PPA with same for *buntu based distros from 10.10 Maverick to 14.04 ESR.

    I don't have a debian system available to me at the moment. I could put together a slackware package if that would be any use to you.

    A slackware package is really just a *.tar.?z file that you can browse with any file manager.

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  • From rick christian@1:3634/12 to Alan Ianson on Tue Sep 13 18:07:03 2016
    On 09/13/2016 02:10 PM, Alan Ianson -> rick christian wrote:
    I don't have a debian system available to me at the moment. I could put together a slackware package if that would be any use to you.

    A slackware package is really just a *.tar.?z file that you can browse with any
    file manager.

    Thanks, but I only use KUbuntu so a DEB or a PPA with DEB's is all I can use...
    I am not even going down the road of horrors of compiling... unless some one has a foolproof one for 14.04....and I do mean foolproof. I've spent way too many times on stuff to compile and it never works.

    Thanks.


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to rick christian on Tue Sep 13 18:52:44 2016

    13 Sep 16 12:14, you wrote to All:

    I am looking for SyncTerm DEB files or PPA with same for *buntu based distros from 10.10 Maverick to 14.04 ESR.

    i'm not aware of such... i helped a friend set up her synchronet system by pulling from the CVS and compiling as desired... the instructions are on the wiki and we created some scripts to assist with updates... they're run every once in a while or as needed... that system is hosted in one of my VMs...

    oh, wait... syncTERM?! oops... yeah, that's another one that i just compile locally after pulling the code... i don't remember the details but mine resides
    on my system as /opt/syncterm/syncterm-linux-x86_64 and all users have access to it... i'm pretty sure that help may be found in one of the two synchronet echos (not the data echo of course)...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.1 to rick christian on Tue Sep 13 16:27:01 2016
    Re: SyncTerm - 64b/AMD64 DEB's?
    By: rick christian to Alan Ianson on Tue Sep 13 2016 06:07 pm

    Thanks, but I only use KUbuntu so a DEB or a PPA with DEB's is all I can use... I am not even going down the road of horrors of compiling... unless some one has a foolproof one for 14.04....and I do mean foolproof. I've spent way too many times on stuff to compile and it never works.

    There are also precompiled binaries at syncterm.bbsdev.net. You might have better luck with those.. :)

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  • From rick christian@1:3634/12 to Alan Ianson on Sun Sep 18 07:12:36 2016
    On 09/13/2016 07:27 PM, Alan Ianson -> rick christian wrote:

    There are also precompiled binaries at syncterm.bbsdev.net. You might have better luck with those.. :)


    I am not seeing compiled Linux versions aka DEB's.. I see things for OS/2 and alleged OS' like winslobber...


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to rick christian on Sun Sep 18 10:20:32 2016

    18 Sep 16 07:12, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

    There are also precompiled binaries at syncterm.bbsdev.net. You might
    have better luck with those.. :)

    I am not seeing compiled Linux versions aka DEB's.. I see things for
    OS/2 and alleged OS' like winslobber...

    that's likely because there are so many linux kernels whereas OS/2 and winwhatever have only one kernel per version and may even carry that kernel across several other versions...

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to rick christian on Sun Sep 18 14:53:46 2016
    Sunday September 18 2016 07:12, you wrote to me:

    There are also precompiled binaries at syncterm.bbsdev.net. You
    might have better luck with those.. :)

    I am not seeing compiled Linux versions aka DEB's.. I see things for
    OS/2 and alleged OS' like winslobber...

    There is a zip or tar.gz there with a precompiled syncterm in it. I have used it before and it worked for me. Just put the executible somewhere like /usr/local/bin and make it executible if it's not already.

    I don't know how that file was compiled.. it may or may not work for you but it
    is worth a try.

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  • From Zaphod@1:249/207 to rick christian on Thu Sep 22 00:22:54 2016
    There are also precompiled binaries at syncterm.bbsdev.net. You might better luck with those.. :)

    I am not seeing compiled Linux versions aka DEB's.. I see things for
    OS/2 and alleged OS' like winslobber...
    I

    There is a link at the bottom of syncterm.bbsdev.net for a precompiled
    binary. It's 32-bit but you can install the 32-bit libs and it runs fine.
    I've been using it on my AMD 64-bit Ubuntu box for a long time.

    http://syncterm.bbsdev.net/syncterm-linux.gz

    - jon

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  • From Rj Clay@1:120/546 to Rick Christian on Sun Sep 25 11:31:24 2016

    On 09/13/2016 07:27 PM, Alan Ianson -> rick christian wrote:
    There are also precompiled binaries at syncterm.bbsdev.net. You might have >> better luck with those.. :)
    I am not seeing compiled Linux versions aka DEB's.. I see things for OS/2 and alleged OS' like winslobber...

    Fernando Toledo has been working on getting it into Debian (& therefore Ubuntu). I plan to talk with him about getting it backported to Xenial, and in the meantime get it up on the FTNApps launchpad ppa:

    https://launchpad.net/~ftnapps/+archive/ubuntu/main

    There's only an old version for Hardy there now, which I should probably take down.

    Since he's not a Debian Developer (I can't help with this because I'm only Debian Maintainer, which means I only upload my own pkgs), it will need to be sponsored by one; for that, his current work is up at:

    https://mentors.debian.net/package/syncterm

    Just need to use 'dget' on the listed *dsc file to get the sources for it.


    If you want to follow along on how it's going, the ITP (Intend to Package) bug for it is:

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=739035


    And the RFS (Request for Sponsor) bug is:

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=777651





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  • From Rj Clay@1:120/546 to Rick Christian on Sun Sep 25 11:31:28 2016

    On 09/13/2016 07:27 PM, Alan Ianson -> rick christian wrote:
    There are also precompiled binaries at syncterm.bbsdev.net. You might have >> better luck with those.. :)
    I am not seeing compiled Linux versions aka DEB's.. I see things for OS/2 and alleged OS' like winslobber...

    Fernando Toledo has been working on getting it into Debian (& therefore Ubuntu). I plan to talk with him about getting it backported to Xenial, and in the meantime get it up on the FTNApps launchpad ppa:

    https://launchpad.net/~ftnapps/+archive/ubuntu/main

    There's only an old version for Hardy there now, which I should probably take down.

    Since he's not a Debian Developer (I can't help with this because I'm only Debian Maintainer, which means I only upload my own pkgs), it will need to be sponsored by one; for that, his current work is up at:

    https://mentors.debian.net/package/syncterm

    Just need to use 'dget' on the listed *dsc file to get the sources for it.


    If you want to follow along on how it's going, the ITP (Intend to Package) bug for it is:

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=739035


    And the RFS (Request for Sponsor) bug is:

    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=777651





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  • From rick christian@1:3634/12 to Rj Clay on Wed Sep 28 07:52:13 2016
    On 09/25/2016 12:31 PM, Rj Clay -> Rick Christian wrote:

    There's only an old version for Hardy there now, which I should probably take down.

    The AMD64 failed to compile, so no version.

    I don't pollute with 32bit libs.

    Since he's not a Debian Developer (I can't help with this because I'm
    only Debian Maintainer, which means I only upload my own pkgs), it will need to be sponsored by one; for that, his current work is up at:

    https://mentors.debian.net/package/syncterm

    Just need to use 'dget' on the listed *dsc file to get the sources for it.


    Doesn't matter unless those are some how changed from the SF ones... as

    after sudo apt-get install unzip andsomencurseslib

    It may compile...BUT

    it DOES NOTHING!

    syncterm -if X -t telnet://bbs.deckersheaven.com

    $ ./syncterm
    @fidodev:~/syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug$ ./syncterm -t bbs.deckersheaven.com 0@fidodev:~/syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug$ ../syncterm -if X -t bbs.deckersheaven.com @fidodev:~/syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug$ man syncterm @fidodev:~/syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug$ ./syncterm -if C -t bbs.deckersheaven.com @fidodev:~/syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug$ syncterm @fidodev:~/syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug$ syncterm -v @fidodev:~/syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug$ syncterm telnet://bbs.deckersheaven.com @fidodev:~/syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug$ syncterm -if X telnet://bbs.deckersheaven.com @fidodev:~/syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug$

    I guess it might be doing something as using syncterm -f spits out -f is blah blah use -if

    But thats all it does.


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  • From rick christian@1:3634/12 to Rj Clay on Wed Sep 28 07:54:55 2016
    On 09/25/2016 12:31 PM, Rj Clay -> Rick Christian wrote:

    Fernando Toledo has been working on getting it into Debian (& therefore Ubuntu). I plan to talk with him about getting it backported to Xenial, and in the meantime get it up on the FTNApps launchpad ppa:


    backported to 14.04 ESR that is supported till 2019, please.

    I can't, and won't use past that, due to systemd pollution.

    So they have till 2019 to remove that, make it so you can cleanly remove it and
    go back to upstart, or I am stuck on 14.04 forever after.

    I've already tried the 16.04 and trying to back to upstart totally breaks the release... :( :( urrrgghhhhh


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  • From rick christian@1:3634/12 to Alan Ianson on Wed Sep 28 07:56:21 2016
    On 09/18/2016 05:53 PM, Alan Ianson -> rick christian wrote:

    There is a zip or tar.gz there with a precompiled syncterm in it. I have used it before and it worked for me. Just put the executible somewhere like /usr/local/bin and make it executible if it's not already.

    I don't know how that file was compiled.. it may or may not work for you but it is worth a try.

    I'll try it but, it more than likely is compiled for 32b and expecting the 32b multi arch setup, which pretty much has been abandoned.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to rick christian on Wed Sep 28 10:09:12 2016
    Wednesday September 28 2016 07:56, you wrote to me:

    I don't know how that file was compiled.. it may or may not work
    for you but it is worth a try.

    I'll try it but, it more than likely is compiled for 32b and expecting
    the 32b multi arch setup, which pretty much has been abandoned.

    I have a slackware 14.2 package of syncterm 1.1b that I built from source I downloaded from syncterm.bbsdev.net a couple months ago. It is 64bit and it works for me.

    I don't know if it will work for you but let me know if you'd like to try it and I'll send it over. It would be easy to install on slackware but it it is just a tar.xz file that you can navigate with any file manager like mc.

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  • From Pedro Silva@1:153/757.1 to rick christian on Wed Sep 28 21:13:00 2016
    rick christian wrote to Rj Clay <=-

    backported to 14.04 ESR that is supported till 2019, please.

    I can't, and won't use past that, due to systemd pollution.

    So they have till 2019 to remove that, make it so you can cleanly
    remove it and go back to upstart, or I am stuck on 14.04 forever after.

    Hi Rick,

    Have you tried Devuan ? https://devuan.org/

    "Devuan GNU+Linux is a fork of Debian without systemd. Its Beta release marks an important milestone towards the sustainability and the continuation of Devuan as a universal base distribution.
    Devuan Jessie provides continuity as a safe upgrade path from Wheezy and a flawless switch from Jessie that ensures the right to Init Freedom and avoids entanglement.
    Since the Exodus declaration in 2014, infrastructure has been put in place to support DevuanâÇÖs mission to offer users control over their system."

    Seems to be the best way to keep systems updated for users who do not wish to run systemd.

    Best regards,
    Pedro Silva

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  • From rick christian@1:3634/12 to Pedro Silva on Fri Sep 30 13:10:31 2016
    On 09/29/2016 12:13 AM, Pedro Silva -> rick christian wrote:

    Have you tried Devuan ? https://devuan.org/

    DOA! Nothing has happened in that thing after its initial *POP*

    Plus.. DFSG

    DFSG kills things like MP3 support... I am not in this for that side of the fence.. Like it or not Mp3 and the baggage it has/is here to stay. I honestly don't care about the source... All I want to do is apt-get install move on in my life. If there is an issue/bug.. I make a report the creator/author fixes it... if not I find something else.. In the last 20+ years its taken that long to come across something non C. While all you "cool" coders took C, I had and already learned PASCAL.. I walked through that class... didn't really need to go.. get assignment due it in 5 minutes, work on other things for other classes, SQL, etc.. Python is about the only thing current I've picked up, because I had not choice in regards to another project...

    But C forget anything that uses the word VOID as part of the language needs to be sent to a dark black VOID! :) ;)

    I offer OGG feeds of something, and 1, ONE, SINGLE person outside of myself has
    ever used it...

    So things like darkice I need and use daily have to be compiled for MP3 under any direct Debian based (Ubuntu fixes this), and I've only ever been successful
    with that on Raspian, as there was DETAILED STEP BY STEP directions which didn't leave out 30 obscure libs that you need which if you are not some GCC guru would never figure out.

    It appears that 14.04 is the end of the line for me, and that is where I will be stuck.. since all the major distros have drunk the systemd flavorade, and have packaged things post 16+ in such a way that even if you could go back to upstart, everything in the repo's is now broken and has dependencies on systemd
    related stuff. Their own instructions on reverting this don't work.. I've got the carcasses of the VM's to prove it! :) :) ;)

    Like the most current binkd package in Ubuntu ties things to an unneeded dependency.. I surgically removed that, and it works.. It needs a little manual
    TLC. (mostly a sudo update-rc binkd defaults) but it's fine for 14.04.. and its probably fine for 12.04 too.


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  • From rick christian@1:3634/12 to Alan Ianson on Fri Sep 30 13:12:16 2016
    On 09/28/2016 01:09 PM, Alan Ianson -> rick christian wrote:

    I don't know if it will work for you but let me know if you'd like to
    try it and I'll send it over. It would be easy to install on slackware
    but it it is just a tar.xz file that you can navigate with any file manager like mc.

    You can send it along, but I doubt it will do anything more here.

    I may just try to get Terminate (LOVED THAT PROGRAM!!!) to run under DOXBox and
    via its "virtual modem" stuff that apparently will allow it to work for the telnet BBS's now.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to rick christian on Fri Sep 30 12:37:48 2016
    Friday September 30 2016 13:12, you wrote to me:

    I don't know if it will work for you but let me know if you'd
    like to try it and I'll send it over. It would be easy to install
    on slackware but it it is just a tar.xz file that you can
    navigate with any file manager like mc.

    You can send it along, but I doubt it will do anything more here.

    I will do that in a few minutes.

    I may just try to get Terminate (LOVED THAT PROGRAM!!!) to run under DOXBox and via its "virtual modem" stuff that apparently will allow it
    to work for the telnet BBS's now.

    I really like Terminate. It's built in point (or is it full blown node, I don't
    remember now) setup is awsome.. :)

    And there is commo, telemate and so many others.. my favorite things.. :)

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  • From Pedro Silva@1:153/757.1 to rick christian on Fri Sep 30 21:45:00 2016
    rick christian wrote to Pedro Silva <=-

    It appears that 14.04 is the end of the line for me, and that is where
    I will be stuck.. since all the major distros have drunk the systemd

    Well, I guess you're stuck, good luck.


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  • From rick christian@1:3634/12 to Alan Ianson on Fri Sep 30 22:48:52 2016
    On 09/30/2016 03:37 PM, Alan Ianson -> rick christian wrote:
    I will do that in a few minutes.

    I'll be on the look out..

    I really like Terminate. It's built in point (or is it full blown node,
    I don't remember now) setup is awsome.. :)

    Its a point.. I actually ran like two points off my node for myself as a simpler way to do things. One was on another FD setup, and one was a Terminate setup... the actual FTN Node was stuck on a computer in a dark closet at the time.....With 10Base2 LAN's... which I actually used into the 2000's! I wasn't going to through a working setup out just to improve speeds.. and for what I did then, and the 128K ISDN access I had..it didn't matter.



    And there is commo, telemate and so many others.. my favorite things.. :)


    Never was a commo person

    Went from ProCom Plus to Telemate to Terminate! Term. was about 2-3rd program I
    actually paid for... one of the first was actually the "disk fee" to get a HUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PILE of 3.5" disks for Linux at the time... It had to come from sompleace in DE at the time.. I didn't have ftp access then and even then at ~33K and change at best....


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  • From Rj Clay@1:120/546 to Rick Christian on Fri Oct 7 02:12:36 2016
    On 09/25/2016 12:31 PM, Rj Clay -> Rick Christian wrote:
    There's only an old version for Hardy there now, which I should probably
    take down.

    That version is quite old, so I'll be removing it from the PPA.


    Since he's not a Debian Developer (I can't help with this because I'm
    only Debian Maintainer, which means I only upload my own pkgs), it will
    need to be sponsored by one; for that, his current work is up at:
    https://mentors.debian.net/package/syncterm
    Just need to use 'dget' on the listed *dsc file to get the sources for it.

    Doesn't matter unless those are some how changed from the SF ones...

    Did you check?


    as after sudo apt-get install unzip andsomencurseslib
    It may compile...BUT
    it DOES NOTHING!

    I haven't had a chance to build it myself yet but I will be doing so.



    Jame

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