Hey Benny!

ldd /usr/bin/mc | sed 's/\t/ /'
linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffd1858b000)
libncursesw.so.6 => /lib/libncursesw.so.6 (0x00007f45f1719000)
libe2p.so.2 => /lib/libe2p.so.2 (0x00007f45f170e000)
libssh2.so.1 => /usr/lib/libssh2.so.1 (0x00007f45f16d8000)
libssl.so.1.1 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.1.1 (0x00007f45f1657000)
libcrypto.so.1.1 => /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.1.1 (0x00007f45f13d1000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0x00007f45f13bc000)
libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f45f12b1000)
libutil.so.1 => /lib/libutil.so.1 (0x00007f45f12ac000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x00007f45f1126000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f45f1109000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f45f1104000)
libpcre.so.1 => /lib/libpcre.so.1 (0x00007f45f10c8000)
/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f45f1778000)

Not all of the above are REQUIRED except for libglib, libpcre and of course libc (aka glibc). Note that I didn't bother with any xorg, gpm mouse, etc. I have a similar strategy for links.

Life is good,
Maurice

... Swa monige beo├╛ men ofer eor├╛an, swa beo├╛ modge├╛oncas.
There are as many opinions as there are people on earth.
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Hello Maurice!

07 Jan 2022 11:11, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

Hey Benny!

ldd /usr/bin/mc | sed 's/\t/ /'
linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffd1858b000)
libncursesw.so.6 => /lib/libncursesw.so.6 (0x00007f45f1719000)
libe2p.so.2 => /lib/libe2p.so.2 (0x00007f45f170e000)
libssh2.so.1 => /usr/lib/libssh2.so.1 (0x00007f45f16d8000)
libssl.so.1.1 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.1.1 (0x00007f45f1657000)
libcrypto.so.1.1 => /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.1.1 (0x00007f45f13d1000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0x00007f45f13bc000)
libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00007f45f12b1000)
libutil.so.1 => /lib/libutil.so.1 (0x00007f45f12ac000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x00007f45f1126000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f45f1109000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f45f1104000)
libpcre.so.1 => /lib/libpcre.so.1 (0x00007f45f10c8000)
/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f45f1778000)

Not all of the above are REQUIRED except for libglib, libpcre and of course libc (aka glibc). Note that I didn't bother with any xorg, gpm mouse, etc. I have a similar strategy for links.

linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007fff9c2c4000)
libtinfow.so.6 => /lib64/libtinfow.so.6 (0x00007fb37fa3c000)
libncursesw.so.6 => /lib64/libncursesw.so.6 (0x00007fb37fa00000)
libe2p.so.2 => /lib64/libe2p.so.2 (0x00007fb37f9f4000)
libext2fs.so.2 => /lib64/libext2fs.so.2 (0x00007fb37f989000)
libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fb37f856000)
libutil.so.1 => /lib64/libutil.so.1 (0x00007fb37f851000)
libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007fb37f695000)
libcom_err.so.2 => /lib64/libcom_err.so.2 (0x00007fb37f68f000)
libpcre.so.1 => /lib64/libpcre.so.1 (0x00007fb37f616000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007fb37f5f6000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fb37fb96000)

you still at /lib32 ? :=)

Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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Hey Benny!

you still at /lib32 ? :=)

Nope. On all my current systems /{,usr}/lib *IS* lib64. I don't have a need for lib32 and when I did lib32 *was* /{,usr}/lib.

Bottomline there are only 64-bit libs. It makes things WAY EASIER to deal with.

Do you still need 32-bit libs?

Life is good,
Maurice

... Ne scyle wandian witona ænig þæt he his ælmessan ofte gesylle.
No wise person should hesitate to give alms often.
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Hello Maurice!

07 Jan 2022 22:05, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

Nope. On all my current systems /{,usr}/lib *IS* lib64. I don't have
a need for lib32 and when I did lib32 *was* /{,usr}/lib.

it was a mess with multilib systems when i begin using gentoo, it still is not fully clean 64bit, since there exists no_multilib profiles in gentoo, thats fine if there was no other profiles that enable 32bit on 64bit hardware, gentoo devs ignore that :=)

Bottomline there are only 64-bit libs. It makes things WAY EASIER to deal with.

with is good as a dec_alpha ready from 29 yaers ago :)

Do you still need 32-bit libs?

only amiga needs it


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)
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Hey Benny!

with is good as a dec_alpha ready from 29 yaers ago :)

I wouldn't know. 29 years ago there was only sparc(s) as far as I had access to. The mainframe was a dec but 32-bit VAX/VMS on there with a bunch of 9 track tape drives. I heard it took roughly 24 hours to boot the damn thing up. I never actually witnessed a bootup but the source of that information was reliable so I went along with it.

I got offered a 64-bit alpha - free but I had to pay the shipping - after they got sold to compaq. If I am not mistaken Tru64 was the OS of choice at that time. I think x86_64 is the only architecture that can run 32-bit libs/apps.

only amiga needs it

Highly unlikely to ever see the light of day here. I don't do emulators. What for?

Life is good,
Maurice

... ðy mara wisdom on londe wære ðy we ma geðeoda cuðon.
There would be more wisdom in the land, the more languages we knew.
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Hello Maurice!

09 Jan 2022 00:53, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

with is good as a dec_alpha ready from 29 yaers ago :)

I wouldn't know.

you are still young then

29 years ago there was only sparc(s) as far as I had

+1

access to. The mainframe was a dec but 32-bit VAX/VMS on there with a bunch of 9 track tape drives.

8" floppy drives

I heard it took roughly 24 hours to
boot the damn thing up.

it was just like 1kw energi at boot :=)

I never actually witnessed a bootup but the
source of that information was reliable so I went along with it.

it was when gopher was the ting used for dokument serving, atleast gopher in bash was not impossible

I got offered a 64-bit alpha - free but I had to pay the shipping -

+1

after they got sold to compaq. If I am not mistaken Tru64 was the OS
of choice at that time. I think x86_64 is the only architecture that
can run 32-bit libs/apps.

i remember Tru64, but not what commes next

only amiga needs it

Highly unlikely to ever see the light of day here.

i wish amiga gui and programs worked on linux today, but no its just a dream, a damm good loose for others

I don't do
emulators. What for?

amiga os can run on linux libvirt, google icarus iso

how does gopher work now ? :)


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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Hey Benny!

it was just like 1kw energi at boot :=)

I am betting it was far more than that.

i remember Tru64, but not what commes next

For the Alpha, it was dropped soon after HP bought Compaq. I am not sure if there were any Alphas produced under the HP flag.

i wish amiga gui and programs worked on linux today

I've heard that before as well as wishes for a native linux for amiga, nevermind emulation.

how does gopher work now ? :)

Same as before. I only have lynx working for gopher connections.

Life is good,
Maurice

... Don't cry for me I have vi.
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