Does it make a difference with what FIDONet style mailer Internet Rex runs with?? I had previously had it set to InterMail (what I had used when I was
on dial-up), but one of my connects, running a Synchronet BBS, apparently,
has his setup setup as a BinkleyTerm mailer, with FLO and CUT files. I am deleting them, as my system doesn't know what to do with them. But, it
appears that my BBS is creating the necessary outbound PKT and other files (with the 2 letter ID for the day of the week, then either a number from 0 to 9, or a letter from A to Z).

Since my BBS is telnet/web only (no dial-up), even though Virtual Advanced
has a deal to "check for FIDOMail (EMSI)" at logon, I have that disabled.

Daryl Stout, Sysop
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Little Rock, Arkansas

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Does it make a difference with what FIDONet style mailer Internet Rex
runs with?? I had previously had it set to InterMail (what I had used

I used to use Intermail (worked fine) but now have it set to D'Bridge since I switched Mailers (Mailer Type in config). I also used Opus 1.02 for Type of .MSGS and still do for D'Bridge (also .Msg mailer). Don't know about Flo and Cut files, thought that was an internal thing. Seems like you should get packed
(or not) archives with .PKT's as normaol, regardless of other end {shrug}

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On 12-08-14 17:19, Daryl Stout wrote to All <=-

Does it make a difference with what FIDONet style mailer Internet Rex
runs with?? I had previously had it set to InterMail (what I had used
when I was on dial-up), but one of my connects, running a Synchronet
BBS, apparently, has his setup setup as a BinkleyTerm mailer, with FLO
and CUT files. I am deleting them, as my system doesn't know what to do with them. But, it appears that my BBS is creating the necessary
outbound PKT and other files (with the 2 letter ID for the day of the week, then either a number from 0 to 9, or a letter from A to Z).

Since my BBS is telnet/web only (no dial-up), even though Virtual
Advanced has a deal to "check for FIDOMail (EMSI)" at logon, I have
that disabled.

In the Config, under Files, paths and programs, look under Frontend Mailer setup and choose Binkley style.


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On Mon, 08 Dec 2014, Daryl Stout wrote to All:

Does it make a difference with what FIDONet style mailer Internet
Rex runs with?? I had previously had it set to InterMail (what I
had used when I was on dial-up), but one of my connects, running a Synchronet BBS, apparently, has his setup setup as a BinkleyTerm
mailer, with FLO and CUT files. I am deleting them, as my system
doesn't know what to do with them.

his system shouldn't be sending the ?LO files... the ?UT files, on the other hand, are PKT files... they contain netmail or echomail... your downlink has not got their stuff configured properly...

But, it appears that my BBS is creating the necessary outbound PKT
and other files (with the 2 letter ID for the day of the week,
then either a number from 0 to 9, or a letter from A to Z).

you mean SA0 TU2 and similar? those are bundles... they contain PKTs...

Since my BBS is telnet/web only (no dial-up), even though Virtual
Advanced has a deal to "check for FIDOMail (EMSI)" at logon, I have
that disabled.

EMSI works over telnet ;)

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On Tue, 09 Dec 2014, Bill McGarrity wrote to Daryl Stout:

Does it make a difference with what FIDONet style mailer Internet
Rex runs with?? I had previously had it set to InterMail (what I
had used when I was on dial-up), but one of my connects, running a

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Synchronet BBS, apparently, has his setup setup as a BinkleyTerm
mailer, with FLO and CUT files. I am deleting them, as my system
doesn't know what to do with them. But, it appears that my BBS is creating the necessary outbound PKT and other files (with the 2
letter ID for the day of the week, then either a number from 0 to
9, or a letter from A to Z).

Since my BBS is telnet/web only (no dial-up), even though Virtual
Advanced has a deal to "check for FIDOMail (EMSI)" at logon, I have
that disabled.

In the Config, under Files, paths and programs, look under Frontend
Mailer setup and choose Binkley style.

daryl has said what mailer he is running... the one sending him the ?LO and ?UT
files is one of his connections and it appears that they are misconfigured since they are sending BSO control files that should not be being sent...

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Bill...

In the Config, under Files, paths and programs, look under Frontend Mailer BM>setup and choose Binkley style.

That's what I've done...and it seems that packets are going out OK.

Daryl

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Mark,

his system shouldn't be sending the ?LO files... the ?UT files, on the other ML>hand, are PKT files... they contain netmail or echomail... your downlink has ML>got their stuff configured properly...

Yeah, he had his netmail routing all screwed up as well, sending stuff through a FIDONet address, instead of through the network it should've
been. Plus, he says that "Synchronet doesn't require a nodelist". Every
BBS package I've run (GT Power under dial-up, then Synchronet and
Virtual Advanced) has required a nodelist to do netmail.

I told him I was going to stick to QWK Networking of it, as I was
afraid we were going to anger the Region 19 Coordinator, if we kept that
up. I figured the problem was on his end.

you mean SA0 TU2 and similar? those are bundles... they contain PKTs...

That's what I figured. Mail seems to be tossing OK.

Since my BBS is telnet/web only (no dial-up), even though Virtual Advanced has a deal to "check for FIDOMail (EMSI)" at logon, I have that disabled.

EMSI works over telnet ;)

However, while VADV32 has a Windows setup, it basically is a "DOS"
setup, because it does NOT have DOOR32.SYS capability. I've heard talk
about plans for that and upgrading it to 32-bit software, but that's
all...just talk. But, I'd be curious to know how to get EMSI to work
under telnet.

Daryl
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Hello Daryl,

On 11 Dec 14 01:38, Daryl Stout wrote to MARK LEWIS:

Yeah, he had his netmail routing all screwed up as well, sending
stuff through a FIDONet address, instead of through the network it should've been. Plus, he says that "Synchronet doesn't require a nodelist". Every BBS package I've run (GT Power under dial-up, then Synchronet and Virtual Advanced) has required a nodelist to do
netmail.

Synchronet does not, and has never required a nodelist for anything. Synchronet
only requires you setup your sbbsecho.cfg (or echocfg as a GUI) properly. It's basically a route table of sorts.

It's probably your mailer that requires that nodelist, but Synchronet doesn't at all.

I told him I was going to stick to QWK Networking of it, as I was
afraid we were going to anger the Region 19 Coordinator, if we kept
that up. I figured the problem was on his end.

He probably set up his "mailbox" or "filebox" as the same directory as the outbound directory. That's usually the only way you will start receiving the .?lo, .try, .bsy/.csy etc files - which is of course the wrong way to setup a BSO mailer.

you mean SA0 TU2 and similar? those are bundles... they contain
PKTs...

That's what I figured. Mail seems to be tossing OK.

Sure, but you seem to be left with some extra cruft, eh? (.clo/.dlo/.hlo files as well as possibly others)

Regards,
Nick

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On Thu, 11 Dec 2014, Daryl Stout wrote to MARK LEWIS:

his system shouldn't be sending the ?LO files... the ?UT files, on
the other hand, are PKT files... they contain netmail or echomail... ML>your downlink has got their stuff configured properly...

Yeah, he had his netmail routing all screwed up as well, sending
stuff through a FIDONet address, instead of through the network it should've been.

understood... sometimes things are not as easily handled as with other packages...

Plus, he says that "Synchronet doesn't require a nodelist".

it doesn't... it has no facility for a nodelist and no nodelist lookup capability... it is much like binkd in this respect except that it came long before binkd did ;)

Every BBS package I've run (GT Power under dial-up, then
Synchronet and Virtual Advanced) has required a nodelist to do
netmail.

that's interesting that you mention synchronet... there's a synchronet system running on the network here and there's no sign of a nodelist on that machine at all...

I told him I was going to stick to QWK Networking of it, as I was
afraid we were going to anger the Region 19 Coordinator, if we
kept that up. I figured the problem was on his end.

you mean SA0 TU2 and similar? those are bundles... they contain
PKTs...

That's what I figured. Mail seems to be tossing OK.

Since my BBS is telnet/web only (no dial-up), even though
Virtual Advanced has a deal to "check for FIDOMail (EMSI)" at
logon, I have that disabled.

EMSI works over telnet ;)

However, while VADV32 has a Windows setup, it basically is a "DOS"
setup, because it does NOT have DOOR32.SYS capability.

that doesn't matter for whether or not it is a windows or dos or 32bit or 16bit
or similar... all door32.sys does is expand slightly on the existing door.sys format...

I've heard talk about plans for that and upgrading it to 32-bit
software, but that's all...just talk. But, I'd be curious to know
how to get EMSI to work under telnet.

enable the above mention "check for fidomail (EMSI)" option... then one only need poll your system with a FTN mailer over telnet... like one of my frontdoor
nodes which services telnet connections ;)

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Hello Daryl,

Hi, Nick...

Synchronet does not, and has never required a nodelist for anything. Synchro NB>only requires you setup your sbbsecho.cfg (or echocfg as a GUI) properly. It NB>basically a route table of sorts.

Having only run SBBS for 2 years (compared to 13 years under GT Power
on dial-up, then running VADV32 ever since), it has been a long time
since I worked with it.

It's probably your mailer that requires that nodelist, but Synchronet doesn' NB>all.

It's the VFIDO Mailer with Virtual Advanced...although Internet Rex
does have a directory for nodelist files.

He probably set up his "mailbox" or "filebox" as the same directory as the NB>outbound directory. That's usually the only way you will start receiving the NB>.?lo, .try, .bsy/.csy etc files - which is of course the wrong way to setup NB>BSO mailer.

I guess that's what he did...but I went back to QWK Networking. I do
a manual telnet logon to his system once a day, to send the outgoing REP packet, and scan for a new QWK packet.

Sure, but you seem to be left with some extra cruft, eh? (.clo/.dlo/.hlo fil NB>as well as possibly others)

I just had the batchfiles delete that extra junk.

Daryl

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Mark,

enable the above mention "check for fidomail (EMSI)" option... then one only ML>need poll your system with a FTN mailer over telnet... like one of my frontd ML>nodes which services telnet connections ;)

I'll have to get with you via netmail sometime...but it has been a
long day for me, and I don't want to do any internal work on the BBS
while I'm tired.

Daryl

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Bill,

In the Config, under Files, paths and programs, look under Frontend Mailer BM>setup and choose Binkley style.

I did that, and will check the path to the nodelist files...although I
hate having to put them in the IREX directory as well.

Daryl

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