* Originally in binkd
* Crossposted in hotdoged

02 Dec 15 03:31, you wrote to me:

i'm not sure what mailer is normally used with hotdoged... as i
understand it, there's another set of apps/services that go with it...

There's a fidonet addon for it, and that handles the mailer portion.

right, that's what i'm talking about above... i just don't recall if it is binkd or not... apparently it is :)

do you have a packet password set? if yes, how long it is? PKT
passwords can only be eight (8) characters long... session passwords
generally have the same restriction with standard FTN software because
the initial exchange between mailers is a PKT but binkd has its own...

I had a node password set, but it was longer than 8 characters. I shortened it, and that seems to have resolved the problem. I need to
do some more testing, but it looks like one message went through.

there ya go... that's the one bug we know of that can cause the address(es) in the PKT header to be incorrect...

This suggests there's a bug somewhere. I don't know whether it's
hotdoged

it is in hotdoged, already known about and a fix is due soonish...

or binkd, but apparently if you set a password longer than 8
characters, the region part of the address (at least in the hotdoged->binkd direction) gets munged.

there's no such thing as "the region part of the address"... you have "zone:net/node.point" and may have "@domain" on the end or "domain#" at the beginning IIRC when seeing FTN addresses written out normally... each of these five values has its own field in the fixed size binary PKT header... the original Type 2 (aka stoneage) packets only have room for zone:net/node... no point or domain... the next version, Type 2+ has room for zone:net/node.point but no domain... the third version, Type 2.2 has room for all five...

i think we need more information regarding your installation... you are
running hotdoged on some sort of ""smartphone"" device thing, right??

Yes, it's running on an android.

ok... i think we've got your problem solved... i've crossposted this to HOTDOGED, too...

)\/(ark

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you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
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Re: binkd point feeds
By: mark lewis to James Downs on Wed Dec 02 2015 09:11:14

* Crossposted in hotdoged

Ok, I've got this one cross posted too. The editor I was using can't (?) cross post, apparently.

ok... i think we've got your problem solved... i've crossposted this to HOTDOGED, too...

Ok, so netmail comes from the phone/hotdoged to the boss node and is received there. Netmail coming back goes into binkd, hotdoged picks it up when I sync, but the mail doesn't appear on the phone/hotdoged.

So that seems to be the last piece to figure out. I'm not sure what's misconfigured.
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* Originally in binkd
* Crossposted in hotdoged

02 Dec 15 17:37, you wrote to me:

there's no such thing as "the region part of the address"... you have
"zone:net/node.point" and may have "@domain" on the end or "domain#" at
the

Yes, you're right. I meant zone.

no problem :)

zone:net/node... no point or domain... the next version, Type 2+ has
room for zone:net/node.point but no domain... the third version, Type
2.2 has room for all five...

Yes, so the boss node is: 1:218/401 (3D address)
And the point node is: 1:218/401.1 (4D address)

And to clarify, binkd is on the boss node, not the smartphone (hotdoged point node).

ahhh, yes... that helps with clarification, too... glad we got the problem (too
long password) solved for you, too...

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
glorious revolution from the next one?"
- The twelfth Doctor

... 137 Americans die in vicious aisle-to-aisle Boxing Day mall combat.
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* Originally in binkd
* Crossposted in hotdoged

02 Dec 15 18:19, you wrote to me:

* Crossposted in hotdoged

Ok, I've got this one cross posted too. The editor I was using can't (?) cross post, apparently.

some have different ways of doing it...

ok... i think we've got your problem solved... i've crossposted this
to HOTDOGED, too...

Ok, so netmail comes from the phone/hotdoged to the boss node and is received there. Netmail coming back goes into binkd, hotdoged picks it up when I sync, but the mail doesn't appear on the phone/hotdoged.

So that seems to be the last piece to figure out. I'm not sure what's misconfigured.

yeah, that sounds like something for the HOTDOGED support echo... we'll continue over there...

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
glorious revolution from the next one?"
- The twelfth Doctor

... No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.
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Hello, James Downs.
On 02.12.15 18:19 you wrote:

ok... i think we've got your problem solved... i've crossposted
this to HOTDOGED, too...

Ok, so netmail comes from the phone/hotdoged to the boss node and
is received there. Netmail coming back goes into binkd, hotdoged
picks it up when I sync, but the mail doesn't appear on the phone/hotdoged. So that seems to be the last piece to figure out.
I'm not sure what's misconfigured.

Are you sure your password is not longer than 8 symbols? If yes, then logs would be appreciated.

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Re: binkd point feeds
By: Sergey Poziturin to James Downs on Mon Dec 07 2015 09:04:21

Are you sure your password is not longer than 8 symbols? If yes, then logs would be appreciated.

I've double checked that, and even made it only 7.

I sent an email to the point address, and did a sync, then took logs. Where should I send them?

Cheers,
-j
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Hello, James Downs.
On 07.12.15 16:39 you wrote:

Are you sure your password is not longer than 8 symbols? If yes,
then logs would be appreciated.

I've double checked that, and even made it only 7. I sent an email
to the point address, and did a sync, then took logs. Where should
I send them?

Try send logs to developer from the menu of the main screen. Do it just after receiving incoming netmail.

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Re: binkd point feeds
By: Sergey Poziturin to James Downs on Mon Dec 07 2015 22:54:38

Try send logs to developer from the menu of the main screen. Do it just after receiving incoming netmail.

They're on the way... thanks!
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Hello, James Downs.
On 08.12.15 2:35 you wrote:

Try send logs to developer from the menu of the main screen. Do
it just after receiving incoming netmail.

They're on the way... thanks!

Got it, but did not find the info about netmail reception there :(

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Re: binkd point feeds
By: Sergey Poziturin to James Downs on Tue Dec 08 2015 14:17:56

Got it, but did not find the info about netmail reception there :(

Hmm. Okay.. I've just received an echo post, sent a netmail to the device, and did a sync, let me send those logs.
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08 Dec 15 18:49, you wrote to Sergey Poziturin:

Got it, but did not find the info about netmail reception there :(

Hmm. Okay.. I've just received an echo post, sent a netmail to the
device, and did a sync, let me send those logs.

one of the thing i wonder about is if the bug that allows longer than 8 characters for the PKT password also allows for less than 8 and reduces the size of the fixed PKT header...

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
glorious revolution from the next one?" - The twelfth Doctor

... It is a great art to know how to sell wind. - Baltasar Gracian
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Hello, mark lewis.
On 08.12.15 21:56 you wrote:

Got it, but did not find the info about netmail reception there
:(

Hmm. Okay.. I've just received an echo post, sent a netmail to
the device, and did a sync, let me send those logs.

one of the thing i wonder about is if the bug that allows longer
than 8 characters for the PKT password also allows for less than 8
and reduces the size of the fixed PKT header...

I guess there is no such bug. I've tried shorter passwords, they do work :)

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09 Dec 15 12:33, you wrote to me:

Got it, but did not find the info about netmail reception there :(

Hmm. Okay.. I've just received an echo post, sent a netmail to the
device, and did a sync, let me send those logs.

one of the thing i wonder about is if the bug that allows longer than
8 characters for the PKT password also allows for less than 8 and
reduces the size of the fixed PKT header...

I guess there is no such bug. I've tried shorter passwords, they do work

:)

great! i wasn't sure since we'd only heard about the one greater than eight character password lengths...

)\/(ark

"So let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and when it's all perfect, and just and fair, and when
you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The trouble makers. How are you going to protect your
glorious revolution from the next one?" - The twelfth Doctor

... If you don't see a big messy pile of wood out back, keep driving.
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