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The Supreme Court has declined to get involved in a new dispute
over a Ten Commandments display on public property.
The justices on Monday left in place a lower court decision that
a Ten Commandments marker in Haskell County, Okla., must go.
The 8-foot-tall stone monument has been on the county courthouseruled last year that it
lawn in Stigler, Okla., since 2004. A federal appeals court
amounts to an unconstitutional endorsement of religion by the
county commission.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi? f=/n/a/2010/03/01/national/w071338S74.DTL&tsp=1
Try real hard to explain why this is a good thing. Consider first
that the original intent of the First Amendment was a FEDERAL
guarantee of freedom of religion that did NOT supersede individual
state constitutions. In fact, the MA constitution originally provided
for a state church.
The federal government is overreaching its authority on every issue
and idiots like you think it's a good thing.
The Supreme Court has declined to get involved in a new disputeover a Ten RS> Commandments display on public property.
that EH> a Ten RS> Commandments marker in Haskell County, Okla.,The justices on Monday left in place a lower court decision
must go.
courthouse EH> lawn in RS> Stigler, Okla., since 2004. A federalThe 8-foot-tall stone monument has been on the county
appeals court ruled last year
that it
amounts to an unconstitutional endorsement of religion by thecounty RS> commission.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
f=/n/a/2010/03/01/national/w071338S74.DTL&tsp=1
Try real hard to explain why this is a good thing. Consider
first that the original intent of the First Amendment was a
FEDERAL guarantee of freedom of religion that did NOT supersede individual state constitutions. In fact, the MA constitution
originally provided for a state church.
I've seen photos of the stone plaque.
It's a Protestant version of the original 10 Commandments.
This Oklahoma town was saying to Catholics and Jews, not to mention RS>Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, and others, "You don't count."
There's a group trying to oust an elected state congressman in North RS>Carolina, because he doesn't believe in God.
This is obviously a government endorsement of *ONE* version of a RS>religion.
And the Oklahoma Supreme Court, hardly a "leftist" organization, said
it was unconstitutional.
The US Supreme Court, again, hardly a "leftist" organization, has let
the ruling stand.
You want "One nation under God?"
Move to Iran.
The Supreme Court has declined to get involved in a new dispute
over a Ten Commandments display on public property.
The justices on Monday left in place a lower court decision that
a Ten Commandments marker in Haskell County, Okla., must go.
The 8-foot-tall stone monument has been on the county courthouse
lawn in Stigler, Okla., since 2004. A federal appeals court
ruled last year that it
amounts to an unconstitutional endorsement of religion by the
county commission.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
f=/n/a/2010/03/01/national/w071338S74.DTL&tsp=1
Try real hard to explain why this is a good thing. Consider first
that the original intent of the First Amendment was a FEDERAL
guarantee of freedom of religion that did NOT supersede individual
state constitutions. In fact, the MA constitution originally provided
for a state church.
The federal government is overreaching its authority on every issue
and idiots like you think it's a good thing.
Next we remove "In God We Trust" from money and the Ten Commandments
from every public building where it is displayed now. The churches will
be next.
The US Supreme Court, again, hardly a "leftist" organization, has let
the ruling stand.
You want "One nation under God?"
So now you want to change the Pledge of Allegiance ?
Move to Iran.
If you want separation of church and state move to the old USSR.
"Jeff Binkley -> Ross Sauer" <1:226/600> wrote in news:10728 $HOLYSMOKE@JamNNTPd:
The US Supreme Court, again, hardly a "leftist" organization, has let
the ruling stand.
You want "One nation under God?"
So now you want to change the Pledge of Allegiance ?
Move to Iran.
If you want separation of church and state move to the old USSR.
I've never seen a bunch with such a weak religion, as you phonyChristians.
Your faith is so worthless, you have to have it mandated by government (whatever government, city, state or federal) decree.
Oh, and constantly trot out the "Wah wah wah, we're being persecuted if we can't force our faith on everyone" crapola.
I realize how fond you all are of the 10 Commandments, however, the US Constitution invalidates nearly all of it.
Take your fairy tales and find a country that will accept you ditwits and your bizarre fantasies.
I've never seen a bunch with such a weak religion, as you phonyChristians.
Your faith is so worthless, you have to have it mandated bygovernment RS> (whatever government, city, state or federal) decree.
You are in error. No one is calling for government mandated religion.
We are trying to defend our freedom to observe our religion.
The pledge is to the country, not God.
Oh, and constantly trot out the "Wah wah wah, we're beingpersecuted if we RS> can't force our faith on everyone" crapola.
You are an unmitigated moron.
I realize how fond you all are of the 10 Commandments, however,the US RS> Constitution invalidates nearly all of it.
Huh? Where did you come up with that nonsense?
Take your fairy tales and find a country that will accept youditwits and RS> your bizarre fantasies.
Take your idiocy and find a country that will accept you morons and
your bizarre fantasies... "Dragons could have existed." -- Otto
(Ar-Kay) Ross Sauer
"Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:10731$HOLYSMOKE@JamNNTPd:
I've never seen a bunch with such a weak religion, as you phony
Christians.
Your faith is so worthless, you have to have it mandated by
government RS> (whatever government, city, state or federal) decree.
You are in error. No one is calling for government mandated religion.
We are trying to defend our freedom to observe our religion.
No one is bothering you if you observe your religion.
It's when you shove it in everyone else's face that we object.
The pledge is to the country, not God.
Then why is the "under God" in there?
Because in 1954, under pressure from religious groups, the government mandated this to show "Them Godless commies."
Oh, and constantly trot out the "Wah wah wah, we're being
persecuted if we RS> can't force our faith on everyone" crapola.
You are an unmitigated moron.
I realize how fond you all are of the 10 Commandments, however,
the US RS> Constitution invalidates nearly all of it.
Huh? Where did you come up with that nonsense?
Which of the 10 Commandments is in the Constitution?
I'll make it easy for you. *NONE*
Take your fairy tales and find a country that will accept you
ditwits and RS> your bizarre fantasies.
Take your idiocy and find a country that will accept you morons and
your bizarre fantasies... "Dragons could have existed." -- Otto
(Ar-Kay) Ross Sauer
Your cult needs more money to scream about those *TERRIBLE* gays.
No one is bothering you if you observe your religion.
It's when you shove it in everyone else's face that we object.
No one is shoving their religion in your face.
The pledge is to the country, not God.
Then why is the "under God" in there?government RS> mandated this to show "Them Godless commies."
Because in 1954, under pressure from religious groups, the
So what?
Oh, and constantly trot out the "Wah wah wah, we're being
crapola.persecuted if we RS> can't force our faith on everyone"
You are an unmitigated moron.
however, EH>> the US RS> Constitution invalidates nearly all of it.I realize how fond you all are of the 10 Commandments,
Huh? Where did you come up with that nonsense?
Which of the 10 Commandments is in the Constitution?
I'll make it easy for you. *NONE*
The Constitution is the enumerations of and limits on federal powers,
you absolute moron! The Bill of Rights is an enumeration of natural
rights of individual citizens and limits on government powers.
The Constitution says nothing that invalidates the 10 Commandments. Nothing. Only an absolute moron would even consider it did.
Take your fairy tales and find a country that will accept you
ditwits and RS> your bizarre fantasies.
and EH>> your bizarre fantasies... "Dragons could have existed." --Take your idiocy and find a country that will accept you morons
Otto EH>> (Ar-Kay) Ross Sauer
Your cult needs more money to scream about those *TERRIBLE*gays.
Huh? What on earth are you going on about? You obviously don't keep up with the news.
"Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:10733$HOLYSMOKE@JamNNTPd:
No one is bothering you if you observe your religion.
It's when you shove it in everyone else's face that we object.
No one is shoving their religion in your face.
Bullshit.
The people who had this Oklahoma 10 Commandments plaque put up RIGHT OUTSIDE THE COURTHOUSE DOOR are shoving their version of the 10 Commandments in anyones' face who comes to that courthouse.
Former judge Roy Moore of Alabama snuck his big ugly rock into the
Alabama State Courthouse, right inside the doorway.
In the middle of the night.
So anyone who came to the Alabama State Courthouse, had that big ugly
rock shoved in their faces.
Roy Moore got his sorry ass kicked out of his judgeship because he
refused to remove the rock when ordered to by the federal courts.
The pledge is to the country, not God.
Then why is the "under God" in there?
Because in 1954, under pressure from religious groups, the
government RS> mandated this to show "Them Godless commies."
So what?
So is the pledge to the US, or God? Or both, thanks to the theocrats who were gonna show "Them Godless commies?"
If our government changed the "God" in the pledge to "Allah," you'd have
a shitfit.
Oh, and constantly trot out the "Wah wah wah, we're being
crapola.persecuted if we RS> can't force our faith on everyone"
You are an unmitigated moron.
I realize how fond you all are of the 10 Commandments,
however, EH>> the US RS> Constitution invalidates nearly all of it.
Huh? Where did you come up with that nonsense?
Which of the 10 Commandments is in the Constitution?
I'll make it easy for you. *NONE*
The Constitution is the enumerations of and limits on federal powers,
you absolute moron! The Bill of Rights is an enumeration of natural
rights of individual citizens and limits on government powers.
That includes city and state governments too, dummy.
The Constitution says nothing that invalidates the 10 Commandments.
Nothing. Only an absolute moron would even consider it did.
Really? Read the first two Commandments, the one about coveting, and the one about adultery, then get back to me.
Take your fairy tales and find a country that will accept you
ditwits and RS> your bizarre fantasies.
and EH>> your bizarre fantasies... "Dragons could have existed." --Take your idiocy and find a country that will accept you morons
Otto EH>> (Ar-Kay) Ross Sauer
Your cult needs more money to scream about those *TERRIBLE*
gays.
Huh? What on earth are you going on about? You obviously don't keep up
with the news.
Your cult spent lots of money to screw over "teh gays."
The Supreme Court has declined to get involved in a new dispute
over a Ten Commandments display on public property.
Next we remove "In God We Trust" from money and the Ten Commandments
from every public building where it is displayed now. The churches will
be next.