• debate time -- exclusivity in religions

    From George Pope@1:153/757 to All on Tue Feb 1 11:51:06 2022
    Ok, I'll be brave & start the ball rolling with my own thoughts on a topic:

    Some religions are based entirely on exclusivity (only their members get to Heaven, for example)

    I'd lkke to suggest they are preaching it wrong:

    It's that those in their group must follow their rules or suffer exclusion from their group's rewards.

    I believe God to be more universal -- after all He/She created all humans, not only a single group (unless you count us all as one family, which I do)

    God, however you understabd or don't understand God, obviously loves variety, so why take away variety, in casing an ephemeral idea of homogeneity?

    Certainly some laws are universal, & can be aptly summed up under the Golden Rule. Humanism has develpoed this same framework for defining universal commandments.

    I think it can be summed up in two: 1. Don't be a jackass.
    2. Do good.

    I prefer to consider true religions, open to all, as: "To love and to learn"

    Everything else is comsmetic -- you go to a church or club you feel; comfortable with, with an affinity for the membership/rules.

    I believe my purpose on this Earth, in the life, is to make the world a little bit better than when I came into it (being born, & also each new day)

    I personally feel the most affinity for Conservative Judaism & its interpretation of the universal truths, so that's who I affiliate with. They've formally accepted & ritualised this membership per their traditions for such, so I'm officially part of a humumgous family who likewise seeks to do good for others & to improve Earth for the sake of all.




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  • From August Abolins@1:124/5016 to George Pope on Sun Feb 6 23:27:44 2022
    On 2/1/2022 2:51 PM, between "George Pope":

    Ok, I'll be brave & start the ball rolling with my own thoughts on a
    topic:

    Some religions are based entirely on exclusivity (only their members
    get to Heaven, for example)

    I'd lkke to suggest they are preaching it wrong:

    It's that those in their group must follow their rules or suffer
    exclusion from their group's rewards.

    Religion is a man-made concept. Even the teachings of Christ are anti-religious. Many people who haven't read the scriptures don't realize that.

    I'd say that most every other "religions" expound a form of exclusivity. But what is the "truth"?

    I believe God to be more universal -- after all He/She created all
    humans, not only a single group (unless you count us all as one
    family, which I do)

    God, however you understabd or don't understand God, obviously loves
    variety, so why take away variety, in casing an ephemeral idea of homogeneity?

    Certainly some laws are universal, & can be aptly summed up under the
    Golden Rule. Humanism has develpoed this same framework for defining universal commandments.

    But humanism lacks hope in the eternal.


    I think it can be summed up in two: 1. Don't be a jackass. 2. Do
    good.

    "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is also a pretty good starting point.


    I prefer to consider true religions, open to all, as: "To love and to
    learn"

    Fair enough. For many people the road to discover the truth is a journey that may take them to the explorations and study of other faith systems along the way.


    Everything else is comsmetic -- you go to a church or club you feel; comfortable with, with an affinity for the membership/rules.

    It is a good thing to be amongst like-minded people. That's where we can get support during troubling times. There might be certain "rules", but they are man-made ones, then it would depend on what those rules are.


    I believe my purpose on this Earth, in the life, is to make the world
    a little bit better than when I came into it (being born, & also each
    new day)

    That's a great attitude.


    I personally feel the most affinity for Conservative Judaism & its interpretation of the universal truths, so that's who I affiliate
    with. They've formally accepted & ritualised this membership per
    their traditions for such, so I'm officially part of a humumgous
    family who likewise seeks to do good for others & to improve Earth
    for the sake of all.

    Myself, I am not religious. (See reference above.) The scriptures give plenty of examples of the bane of ritual and tradition. Those are best avoided.
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