• Is Fred Phelps a Christian?

    From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Ross Sauer on Sun Oct 10 16:59:28 2010
    On 10/09/2010 10:32 PM, Ross Sauer -> Ed Hulett wrote:
    "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/789.0> wrote in news:10802$HOLYSMOKE@JamNNTPd:

    With Fred Phelps' daughter arguing in front of the Supreme
    Court,
    (and they
    had to disinfect the chamber after,) something I wonder about.

    She's not the worst one to set foot there.

    Is Fred Phelps and his brood actually Christian?

    No. It comes down to "what would Jesus do?" He definitely would NOT do
    what Phelps and his idiot bunch do.

    Phelps' religion is based more on the Old Testament, the wrathful punish everyone for what a few did wrong-type God.

    Total nonsense.

    There are also parts of Paul's teachings in Phelps interpretations.

    You don't know what you are talking about.

    And please none of this "They aren't true Christian" nonsense
    either.

    It isn't nonsense. No true Christian would be so hateful.

    So what do you all him?

    Huh?

    Besides what's unprintable?

    I don't talk like that.

    Osama Bin Laden is described as a Muslim.

    So what? Are you equating Phelps with bin Laden?

    In a way, yes.

    Are you serious? Who has Phelps murdered?

    Both subscribe to nothing but hatred and both are of the type of
    preacher that dictates everything, and rules the flock with an iron
    fist.

    You don't have a clue.

    Meir Kahane was described as a Jew.

    Again, so what?

    It doesn't matter what they are described as, it is their actions that
    define them.

    Quite true.

    Then, what's your point in trying to call Phelps a Christian?

    But if Osama Bin Laden is described as a Muslim, by the same logic
    Phelps should be described as a Christian.

    You really should stop digging.

    Also, should the 1rst Amendment apply to Phelps' stunts?

    Yes, it does. What they do is reprehensible, but it is protected by
    the 1st Amendment.

    I say it does, since the same people that censor Phelps, can
    sensor anyone RS> else for any reason.

    Exactly.

    Do you think the Supreme Court will rule against Phelps?

    I can't see them doing it unless they go with the plaintiff's contention that Phelps' group attacked his son personally.

    Ed

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  • From Ross Cassell@1:123/456 to Ross Sauer on Sun Oct 10 17:04:00 2010
    Hello Ross!

    10 Oct 10 01:32, you wrote to Ed Hulett:

    Quite true.
    But if Osama Bin Laden is described as a Muslim, by the same logic
    Phelps should be described as a Christian.

    Real Christians decry the actions of Phelps and the brain dead scum that he has
    fathered or that follow him. Real Christians do not consider Phelps and Co as part of their number..

    A true Muslim should decry that which Bin Laden and those like him, say, have done, advocate or stands for.

    What happens here Sauer, is a Christian stand regarding prayer or symbology of his faith and the first thing you do is start foaming at the mouth, your hands clench up, you fall to the floor and start having a epileptic seizure of grand mau proportions.

    When a Muslim straps on a bomb and blows himself up in a crowded market in the name of Jihad and the prophet Muhammed, you **WONT** even blink.

    When we point this out to you, the first instinct you have is to yell and scream, "you are a bigot" and say we are Judging all Muslims by the actions of a few, yet you Judge Christianity the same exact way..

    Why do you worship the double standard Mr Sauer?

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  • From Ross Sauer@1:123/789 to All on Sat Oct 9 19:31:01 2010
    With Fred Phelps' daughter arguing in front of the Supreme Court, (and they
    had to disinfect the chamber after,) something I wonder about.

    Is Fred Phelps and his brood actually Christian?

    And please none of this "They aren't true Christian" nonsense either.

    Osama Bin Laden is described as a Muslim.
    Meir Kahane was described as a Jew.

    Also, should the 1rst Amendment apply to Phelps' stunts?

    I say it does, since the same people that censor Phelps, can sensor anyone
    else for any reason.

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  • From Ed Hulett@1:123/789 to Ross Sauer on Sat Oct 9 19:43:41 2010
    On 10/09/2010 04:31 PM, Ross Sauer -> All wrote:
    With Fred Phelps' daughter arguing in front of the Supreme Court, (and
    they
    had to disinfect the chamber after,) something I wonder about.

    She's not the worst one to set foot there.

    Is Fred Phelps and his brood actually Christian?

    No. It comes down to "what would Jesus do?" He definitely would NOT do what Phelps and his idiot bunch do.

    And please none of this "They aren't true Christian" nonsense either.

    It isn't nonsense. No true Christian would be so hateful.

    Osama Bin Laden is described as a Muslim.

    So what? Are you equating Phelps with bin Laden?

    Meir Kahane was described as a Jew.

    Again, so what?

    It doesn't matter what they are described as, it is their actions that define them.

    Also, should the 1rst Amendment apply to Phelps' stunts?

    Yes, it does. What they do is reprehensible, but it is protected by the 1st Amendment.

    I say it does, since the same people that censor Phelps, can sensor anyone else for any reason.

    Exactly.

    Ed

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  • From Ross Sauer@1:123/789 to Ed Hulett on Sun Oct 10 01:32:45 2010
    "Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer" <1:123/789.0> wrote in
    news:10802$HOLYSMOKE@JamNNTPd:

    With Fred Phelps' daughter arguing in front of the Supreme
    Court,
    (and they
    had to disinfect the chamber after,) something I wonder about.

    She's not the worst one to set foot there.

    Is Fred Phelps and his brood actually Christian?

    No. It comes down to "what would Jesus do?" He definitely would NOT do what Phelps and his idiot bunch do.

    Phelps' religion is based more on the Old Testament, the wrathful punish everyone for what a few did wrong-type God.

    There are also parts of Paul's teachings in Phelps interpretations.


    And please none of this "They aren't true Christian" nonsense
    either.

    It isn't nonsense. No true Christian would be so hateful.

    So what do you all him?
    Besides what's unprintable?

    Osama Bin Laden is described as a Muslim.

    So what? Are you equating Phelps with bin Laden?

    In a way, yes.
    Both subscribe to nothing but hatred and both are of the type of
    preacher that dictates everything, and rules the flock with an iron
    fist.

    Meir Kahane was described as a Jew.

    Again, so what?

    It doesn't matter what they are described as, it is their actions that define them.

    Quite true.
    But if Osama Bin Laden is described as a Muslim, by the same logic
    Phelps should be described as a Christian.

    Also, should the 1rst Amendment apply to Phelps' stunts?

    Yes, it does. What they do is reprehensible, but it is protected by
    the 1st Amendment.

    I say it does, since the same people that censor Phelps, can
    sensor anyone RS> else for any reason.

    Exactly.

    Do you think the Supreme Court will rule against Phelps?

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