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    From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to allfix on Thu Jan 2 22:41:00 2020
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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to August Abolins on Sat Jan 4 22:59:22 2020
    Hi August.

    02 Jan 20 22:41:00, you wrote to allfix:

    A quote from the allfix.doc:

    === Cut ===
    3.2 Mail transfer and the FileFind system

    The FileFind system offers people the ability to search for files
    via echomail by writing messages addressed to the name "ALLFIX",
    without quotes. The files, file specifications, and keywords
    (preceded by a '/') are placed on the subject line. The message
    body may be left empty.

    ALLFIX will scan the configured message areas and process all
    FileFind requests. It will scan the BBS file areas and if any
    matches are found, it will write a reply in the appropriate area.

    Since the FileFind requests are sent via echomail, one request may
    receive multiple replies. One problem with this system is that the
    flow of mail may easily get out of hand. ALLFIX has a number of
    features to reduce the amount of mail. First, no more than 15
    files will be included in a reply. Second, it has the ability to
    ignore any local FileFind requests. Third, ALLFIX will not
    process FileFind requests that contain less than 4 non-wildcard
    characters (ie. characters other than the '?' and '*' wildcards).
    Lastly, ALLFIX has the ability to ignore FileFind requests that
    are older than the configured number of days.

    To facilitate searching for files, ALLFIX supports two elementary
    boolean operators; AND and OR. These operators may be used between
    filespecs and keywords.
    === Cut ===

    Please note the "ALLFIX will not process FileFind requests that contain less than 4 non-wildcard characters" part.

    'Tommi

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  • From ALLFIX 2:280/1208@2:280/1208 to August Abolins on Sun Jan 5 03:37:00 2020
    Num found : 2

    Found at : UniCorn BBS
    SysOp : Henri Derksen
    Location : Arnhem, The Netherlands
    Telephone : +31-(0)26-4425506
    Max Speed : 28800
    Flags : XA,CM,V34,Z19,FAX,U,ENC
    Address : 2:280/1208
    Comment : Universal for All Acorns

    FAQ-Files A (area 28) >------------------------------------------------------------
    PGP.RAR 69,297 05-08-98 FAQ on PGP (Pretty Good Privacy).
    PGP.ZIP 77,348 01-04-98 FAQ on PGP (Pretty Good Privacy).

    --- ALLFIX v4.16
    * Origin: Pas op voor Bit-Friemelaars, UniCorn BBS (2:280/1208)
  • From Terry Roati@3:640/1321 to Tommi Koivula on Wed Jan 8 15:45:12 2020

    On Jan 04, 2020 10:57pm, Tommi Koivula wrote to August Abolins:

    Hi Tommi,

    no more than 15 files will be included in a reply.

    Do you or anyone know where this 15 file limit comes from?

    What it doesn't say is whether the description is in a short or full form for the 15 files. Does it even matter, other than the latter mreply will be much longer.

    Any info on this is greatly appreciated as new version for Wildcat Winserver
    is being developed so getting it right the first time is the idea.

    Thanks.



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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Terry Roati on Wed Jan 8 07:00:33 2020
    Re: RE: pgp
    By: Terry Roati to Tommi Koivula on Wed Jan 08 2020 15:45:12


    no more than 15 files will be included in a reply.

    Do you or anyone know where this 15 file limit comes from?

    i would assume that it is in the settings of the replying system but if you took that from the block of text that was posted about this area, i would also say that it is a randomly chosen limit set by the originator/maintainer of this
    area to avoid flooding the area with huge lists of files that match someone's search criteria...

    like the other day when someone sent a search for ".ZIP"... would you like all systems connected to be dumping their entire (eg) 10000+ files list of zip files in here? would those lists be posted as multiple messages or as one huge message from each system?

    personally speaking, i think the limit is OK and that the resulting replies may
    lead one to refining their search crieria... the problem/question is how to enforce the limit when replying software doesn't have a setting to adjust the output to stay within the posted limit...


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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Terry Roati on Wed Jan 8 15:42:33 2020

    Wednesday January 08 2020 15:45, Terry Roati wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    On Jan 04, 2020 10:57pm, Tommi Koivula wrote to August Abolins:

    Hi Tommi,

    no more than 15 files will be included in a reply.

    Do you or anyone know where this 15 file limit comes from?

    It is possible to define the max replies per area in allfix setup. Maybe the documentation was not updated.

    The last Allfix from Harald Harms will be 20 years old soon. ;)

    'Tommi

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  • From Terry Roati@3:640/1321 to Mark Lewis on Thu Jan 9 11:36:08 2020

    On Jan 08, 2020 07:05am, mark lewis wrote to Terry Roati:

    Hi Mark,

    Thanks for your reply.

    i would assume that it is in the settings of the replying system but if you took that from the block of text that was posted about this area, i would also say that it is a randomly chosen limit set by the originator/maintainer of this area to avoid flooding the area with huge lists of files that match someone's search criteria...

    Exactly, in the Wildcat version I am helping with, the max number of files is set in a config file and could be anything so I was considering what a good limit to be hard coded would be. The Wildcat version doesn't do multiple messages and I don't see it as being helpful or necessary as I tested over a 100 finds on a test without issue.

    like the other day when someone sent a search for ".ZIP"... would you
    like all systems connected to be dumping their entire (eg) 10000+ files list of zip files in here? would those lists be posted as multiple messages or as one huge message from each system?

    In allfix it would fail but with the Wildcat version it would find up to the number set in the config file as it uses the Wildcat search engine which is completely different to allfix and therefore create a find.

    personally speaking, i think the limit is OK and that the resulting replies may lead one to refining their search crieria... the problem/question is how to enforce the limit when replying software doesn't have a setting to adjust the output to stay within the posted limit...

    Not a bad idea to set a limit of XX and if there a more a message reply would give the number of finds and suggest refining the search criteria.

    Terry

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  • From Terry Roati@3:640/1321 to Tommi Koivula on Thu Jan 9 11:38:54 2020

    On Jan 08, 2020 03:40pm, Tommi Koivula wrote to Terry Roati:

    Hi Tommi,

    It is possible to define the max replies per area in allfix setup.
    Maybe the documentation was not updated.

    See my reply to Mark Lewis, this is a specific version only for Wildcat
    systems and the limit of finds is in the config file, the question is what is
    a good max limit now.

    Terry

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  • From Henri Derksen@2:280/1208.1 to August Abolins on Sat Jan 18 05:28:09 2020
    Hello August and others,

    Sat. 04 Jan 2020, 21:50:00, August Abolins wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    Please note the "ALLFIX will not process FileFind requests that
    contain less than 4 non-wildcard characters" part.

    Thanks! I was not aware of the 4-char minimum.

    Huh?, My Allfix at UniCorn BBS did answer his 3 letter searchstring ;-).

    So I also did not know about that limit.
    Maybe it is only there in other versions than mine Dos one.

    I saw other systems also replying at 3 character questions.

    Henri.

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  • From Henri Derksen@2:280/1208.1 to Tommi Koivula on Sat Jan 25 19:03:11 2020
    Hello Tommi and others,

    Sat. 04 Jan 2020, 22:59:22, Tommi Koivula wrote to August Abolins:

    Please note the "ALLFIX will not process FileFind requests that contain less than 4 non-wildcard characters" part.

    Strange, as my AllFix DOS version answered several 3 letter questions.
    Look in this FileFind.Ont EchoMailArea.
    So may be this feature is version dependend?

    Henri.

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to Henri Derksen on Sun Jan 26 14:09:10 2020
    On 25.01.2020 19:03, Henri Derksen wrote:

    Hello Tommi and others,

    Sat. 04 Jan 2020, 22:59:22, Tommi Koivula wrote to August Abolins:

    Please note the "ALLFIX will not process FileFind requests that contain less than 4 non-wildcard characters" part.

    Strange, as my AllFix DOS version answered several 3 letter questions.

    Yes, that is exactly what your very old and outdated Allfix v4.16 did
    indeed. :)

    'Tommi

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