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  • One billion in Canada

    From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to All on Wed Nov 16 11:12:51 2022
    Hi, All!

    One billion in Canada
    Is it as in the US or as in the UK?

    Bye, All!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to alexander koryagin on Tue Nov 22 23:56:12 2022
    Hi, Alexander! Recently you wrote in a message to All:

    One billion in Canada
    Is it as in the US or as in the UK?


    In the US & Canada, one billion = one thousand million.

    In the UK & Germany, one billion is (or once was) one million million according to my sources. OTOH they seem divided as to whether or not Brits use "milliard" to mean one thousand million nowadays in much the same the way a lot of physicists from continental Europe evidently do. Some appear to believe the latter is no longer in technical &/or common use within the UK... and according to plainenglish.co.uk the government there has followed the American convention since 1974. I've noticed similar trends WRT various other things as well. :-Q




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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Ardith Hinton on Wed Nov 23 14:37:40 2022
    Hi, Ardith Hinton!
    I read your message from 22.11.2022 23:56

    ak>> One billion in Canada Is it as in the US or as in the UK?

    AH> In the US & Canada, one billion = one thousand million.

    AH> In the UK & Germany, one billion is (or once was) one million
    AH> million according to my sources.

    In Russia the same, BTW. :)

    AH> OTOH they seem divided as to whether or not Brits use "milliard" to
    AH> mean one thousand million nowadays in much the same the way a lot
    AH> of physicists from continental Europe evidently do.

    We use "milliard" in Russia. American billionaires are milliarders for us.

    AH> Some appear to believe the latter is no longer in technical &/or
    AH> common use within the UK... and according to plainenglish.co.uk the
    AH> government there has followed the American convention since 1974.
    AH> I've noticed similar trends WRT various other things as well.

    BTW, there is no word "milliard" in the British Longman dictionary.

    Bye, Ardith!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to alexander koryagin on Tue Dec 6 23:56:17 2022
    Hi, Alexander! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

    In the US & Canada, one billion = one thousand million.

    In the UK & Germany, one billion is (or once was) one
    million million according to my sources.

    In Russia the same, BTW. :)


    And I suspect in various other countries across the pond.... :-)



    OTOH they seem divided as to whether or not Brits use
    "milliard" to mean one thousand million nowadays in much
    the same way a lot of physicists from continental Europe
    evidently do.

    We use "milliard" in Russia. American billionaires are
    milliarders for us.


    There's a word I didn't know. If we can say "Baby Boomers" I see nothing wrong with it. Thank you for the addition to my vocabulary.... :-)



    Some appear to believe the latter is no longer in
    technical &/or common use within the UK... and according
    to plainenglish.co.uk the government there has followed
    the American convention since 1974. I've noticed similar
    trends WRT various other things as well.

    BTW, there is no word "milliard" in the British Longman
    dictionary.


    It's listed in my CANADIAN OXFORD DICTIONARY, which was meant for international use. But things are changing quickly in the UK nowadays. :-Q




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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Ardith Hinton on Fri Dec 9 09:53:44 2022
    Hi, Ardith Hinton!
    I read your message from 06.12.2022 23:56

    ak>> BTW, there is no word "milliard" in the British Longman
    ak>> dictionary.
    AH> It's listed in my CANADIAN OXFORD DICTIONARY, which
    AH> was meant for international use. But things are changing
    AH> quickly in the UK nowadays. :-Q

    I looked, for instance, in Longman on-line. https://www.ldoceonline.com/spellcheck/english/?q=milliard

    Bye, Ardith!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to alexander koryagin on Wed Dec 14 23:52:24 2022
    Hi, Alexander! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

    BTW, there is no word "milliard" in the British Longman
    dictionary.

    It's listed in my CANADIAN OXFORD DICTIONARY, which was
    meant for international use. But things are changing
    quickly in the UK nowadays. :-Q

    I looked, for instance, in Longman on-line.
    https://www.ldoceonline.com/spellcheck/english/?q=milliard


    Hmm. I see your point. The Oxford & Cambridge dictionaries include it, as does Collins... the latter says it is no longer in technical use.

    I'm reminded here of the days when the OED politely ignored what was going on in the colonies, but I'm not sure what to make of this omission. :-)




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