• The Sea and the Waves Roaring

    From Jeff Snyder@1:345/3777 to All on Mon Dec 26 18:45:00 2011
    In the Gospel of Luke, while describing the signs which would precede the destruction of Jerusalem, and His own Return, one of the things which Jesus said to His Disciples was the following:

    "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;"
    Luke 21:25, KJV

    As some of you will know, in the Book of Revelation, we are told that
    sometimes waters are used to symbolized people and nations. Consider this verse:

    "And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore
    sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues."
    Revelation 17:15, KJV

    Thus, I believe that in the previous verse that is found in the Gospel of
    Luke, Jesus may actually be referring to the great unrest which will occur amongst the peoples of the world in the years preceding His Return. Can
    anyone deny that we have already begun to witness this phenomena at our
    current time?

    While I haven't said much lately in my blog regarding the situation around
    the world, anyone who has been keeping abreast of global news can quickly determine that the sea and the waves -- the masses -- have indeed been
    roaring, and roaring quite loudly in protest, as we experience this time of political and economic uncertainty all around the world.

    From the economic downturn in the USA, to serious financial trouble in
    Europe, to massive protests against Vladimir Putin in Russia, to Bashar al-Assad's oppression of his people in Syria, to ongoing unrest in Egypt, to the rapid deterioration of the situation in Iraq, to political uncertainty
    in North Korea, to tensions growing between India and Pakistan, it seems
    that one crisis after another is shaking up the world, and this may just be
    the beginning of a period of great social upheaval.

    Furthermore, while the affluent and the elite of the world enjoy their lives
    of luxury in their ivory towers, the gap between the haves and the have nots continues to grow wider with each passing year, as the poor continue to
    become poorer, with no relief in sight.

    To add to this atmosphere of uncertainty, scientists have recognized that during the past few years, the Earth has experienced some record-breaking meteorological extremes, and Global Warming is being embraced as a reality
    by more and more people, including by previously skeptical politicians.

    However, with recent events, it seems that we may have reached a point where the common people are no longer willing to tolerate the excesses of Big Business, the corruption of politicians, the greed of bankers, and the oppression of dictatorial leaders. They seem to be saying that enough is enough, and that they want real change, and not just deceptive, empty
    rhetoric. From the so-called Arab Spring, to unrest in Syria, to protests in Russia, to Occupy Wall Street, to the protests which have recently occurred
    in many other cities around the world, the desire for real change appears to
    be growing.

    The problem is that the old guard -- the current power brokers of the world
    -- are very much entrenched in their ways, and they do not easily embrace change. For some of them, it seems to be easier to oppress their critics and opponents, rather than to embrace change, and this is worrisome.

    While it would be nice to believe that national governments are going to
    have a change of heart, and are going to more earnestly dedicate themselves
    to the betterment of their people -- particularly the common people --
    reality and history suggest a very different scenario. When people rise up
    in protest, national governments seem to have a propensity for resorting to oppression in one form or another, sooner or later. This oppression can manifest itself in the form of economic oppression -- so that people are
    kept busy just trying to figure out how to survive -- in the deterioration
    of civil rights and personal freedoms, and in other ways.

    So if this current wave of global dissatisfaction continues to grow and
    expand, what can we expect? How will national governments react? Perhaps the real question that should be asked is how the behind-the-scenes power
    brokers will react, because they are the true power behind national
    governments and leaders who only serve as puppets at their whim.

    It seems to me that these power brokers have already formulated their
    response, and that they devised a plan of action a long time ago. They have
    a vision for the world which can be spelled out in three simple words: One World Government, or New World Order. As such, I suspect that they will only allow the current social unrest to go so far, before they will begin to
    clamp down and take action. After all, control is the name of their game.

    In fact, I believe that they have already begun preparing for that day. If
    we consider how much personal data is currently being collected by national governments, and being stored in databases who-knows-where, it is a bit unsettling, and we must ponder what they intend to do with all of this information. Think about it. If they know who you are, where you are, what
    you are doing, what your personal habits are, what your personal weaknesses are, etc., you will be a lot easier to control when the time arrives and it becomes necessary. Resistance will be futile.

    As I explain in a number of my articles, the Bible seems to predict that a
    time will arrive when just such an oppressive government will temporarily
    take over the world, and everyone -- rich and poor -- will be affected by
    it. Everyone will be forced to accede to its demands, if they expect to survive. Of course, we will be told by our Orwellian Big Brother that such stringent measures are necessary if we want the world to survive, and not
    spin totally out of control. Their reasoning will seem so logical, and many people will acquiesce to their oppressive system of identification and
    economic control, to their own damnation.

    So the sea and the waves are indeed roaring now, and there is clearly
    "distress of nations", exactly as Jesus predicted would occur, and this
    anguish will only continue to grow worse, as God's Judgments begin to fall
    more heavily upon a world which has in large part rejected His Son.

    While many people are becoming discontent with the current status quo and
    are demanding social and political change, the day may arrive when the situation will become so bad, and so oppressive, that they may actually look back at this current period of world history as "the good times".

    Regardless of what happens here on the Earth in the affairs of men, as Bible-believing Christians, we need to remember that we are truly not of
    this world, and our Kingdom is not of this world. We are pilgrims in a
    strange land, and like our spiritual forefathers, we seek a much better
    place, a Heavenly Place, "wherein dwelleth righteousness". Consider the following verses:

    "These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. But now they desire a better country, that is,
    an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he
    hath prepared for them a city."
    Hebrews 11:13-16, KJV

    "Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness."
    2 Peter 3:13, KJV

    "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In
    my FatherΓÇÖs house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you."
    John 14:1-2, KJV

    "But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have
    entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them
    that love him."
    1 Corinthians 2:9, KJV

    So keep the Heavenly Vision, and don't become too perturbed by what you see happening in the world. Everything serves a purpose, and in the end:

    ". . . we know that all things work together for good to them that love God,
    to them who are the called according to his purpose."
    Romans 8:28, KJV


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  • From BOB KLAHN@1:123/140 to JEFF SNYDER on Tue Dec 27 22:35:36 2011

    In the Gospel of Luke, while describing the signs which
    would precede the destruction of Jerusalem, and His own
    Return, one of the things which Jesus said to His Disciples
    was the following:

    "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and
    in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with
    perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;"
    Luke 21:25, KJV

    As some of you will know, in the Book of Revelation, we are
    told that sometimes waters are used to symbolized people
    and nations. Consider this verse:

    It does specify nations in the quoted lines. It looks like sea
    and waves refer to sea and waves. Which could be a reference to
    global warming.

    ...

    great unrest which will occur amongst the peoples of the
    world in the years preceding His Return. Can anyone deny
    that we have already begun to witness this phenomena at our
    current time?

    Yes. The unrest we currently see are not all that great. What
    you could well see would make this look like a time of peace and
    boredom.

    ...

    From the economic downturn in the USA, to serious financial
    trouble in Europe,

    All of which are fairly easily resolvable, but aren't being
    because of poltics that favor the rich.

    to massive protests against Vladimir
    Putin in Russia, to Bashar al-Assad's oppression of his
    people in Syria, to ongoing unrest in Egypt, to the rapid
    deterioration of the situation in Iraq, to political
    uncertainty in North Korea, to tensions growing between
    India and Pakistan, it seems that one crisis after another
    is shaking up the world, and this may just be the beginning
    of a period of great social upheaval.

    Or not. Assad could be done in a few months, or weeks. Putin is
    another matter. The unrest in Egypt will likely be settled
    within a year or two. Iraq is unsurprisin.

    The hundred years war was part of a period of nearly constant
    warfare in Europe. This is calm by comparison. It is only the
    access to communication that makes it look as bad as it does.

    Furthermore, while the affluent and the elite of the world
    enjoy their lives of luxury in their ivory towers, the gap
    between the haves and the have nots continues to grow wider
    with each passing year, as the poor continue to become
    poorer, with no relief in sight.

    True. Short of revolution.

    To add to this atmosphere of uncertainty, scientists have
    recognized that during the past few years, the Earth has
    experienced some record-breaking meteorological extremes,
    and Global Warming is being embraced as a reality by more
    and more people, including by previously skeptical
    politicians.

    Yep. Yet still denied by so many.

    However, with recent events, it seems that we may have
    reached a point where the common people are no longer
    willing to tolerate the excesses of Big Business, the

    That we can only hope is true.

    corruption of politicians, the greed of bankers, and the
    oppression of dictatorial leaders. They seem to be saying
    that enough is enough, and that they want real change, and
    not just deceptive, empty rhetoric. From the so-called Arab
    Spring, to unrest in Syria, to protests in Russia, to
    Occupy Wall Street, to the protests which have recently
    occurred in many other cities around the world, the desire
    for real change appears to be growing.

    I most certainly hope so. Or, as they say, from your keyboard to
    His monitor.

    ...


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