Quoting Richard Webb to Ole Juul on 02-27-10 05:44 <=-

Not really the way the bellsouth folks are doing web
browsing these days hooking you into that stuff first.

Ok, I'm jumping in here way late... if I understand correctly, you need something for moving internet email? What I've been using is Pegasus...
a good DOS (probably originally Linux? hubby not looking over my
shoulder any more) mail reader program. I write replies through it
using my usual text editor (MicroEMACS), I can save messages to text
files and or "folders"... No mouse required (I don't do mice either).
It has receive/send capabilities built in although that's not the way
the wizard set mine up.

As I told Mark, for whatever reason, most of the traffic from this echo
isn't making it to my primary bbs, and I've been behind besides, so this
all got going while I was out of the loop... ;0

Oh, and I'm using a version of Lynx for webbrowsing in DOS... ;)

ttyl neb

... CAT.COM started. Computer will furball in five seconds.


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Hi Nancy,

* In a cyberspace transmission to Richard Webb, Nancy Backus said:

Ok, I'm jumping in here way late... if I understand

I'll catch ya up. :)
He was looking for an MTA (mail transport agent) which
I had mentioned. I have two very good ones which work
with modern POP3 and NNTP servers. We've been communicating
via netmail regarding that.

correctly, you need
something for moving internet email? What I've been using
is Pegasus...

Pegasus is a mail reader/writer and needs an MTA underneath
but you probably don't notice that in a normal Pegasus
setup. One of the MTA's which I have is called FDSMTPOP
and from what I've heard it is often used with Pegasus.
The other one is NETMAIL. If you, or hubby is interted
I put it up here: http://cgs.coalmont.net/dos-mta.zip

a good DOS (probably originally Linux? hubby not looking
over my
shoulder any more) mail reader program. I write replies
through it
using my usual text editor (MicroEMACS), I can save
messages to text
files and or "folders"... No mouse required (I don't do
mice either).
It has receive/send capabilities built in although that's
not the way
the wizard set mine up.

I used to use NETMAIL to move e-mail. To use it alone though
is not suitable for many people. You have to write your own
headers and manage the automatic numbering of the files.
It's not rocket science, but you either have to be comfortable
with batch files, or have some kind of mail program. When I
start doing it that way again, I'll put a package together
for others to use... if anybody is interested. It's really
a minimalist's ideal.

As I told Mark, for whatever reason, most of the traffic
from this echo
isn't making it to my primary bbs, and I've been behind
besides, so this
all got going while I was out of the loop... ;0

Yep, I've noticed the problem too. (As mentioned in my last post)

Oh, and I'm using a version of Lynx for webbrowsing in
DOS... ;)

I recently got that going again. (We talked about it.)
That's an awsome program. Have you tried it for downloading
files? It works!

Cheers,
Ole


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HI Nancy,

On Sun 2038-Feb-28 22:35, Nancy Backus (1:3634/12) wrote to Richard Webb:

Not really the way the bellsouth folks are doing web
browsing these days hooking you into that stuff first.

Ok, I'm jumping in here way late... if I understand correctly, you
need something for moving internet email? What I've been using is Pegasus... a good DOS (probably originally Linux? hubby not looking
over my shoulder any more) mail reader program. I write replies
through it using my usual text editor (MicroEMACS), I can save
messages to text files and or "folders"... No mouse required (I
don't do mice either). It has receive/send capabilities built in
although that's not the way the wizard set mine up.

Bs went to this yahoo mail thing which requires additional
authentication over and above that usually available in
standrd pop3 smtp as we've come to know and love it, but
inadvertently their old mail server survives, unbeknownst to the phone drone <knocking on pressboard> SO I"m looking to
be able to plug something pop3 into that that isn't
microsloth exploder and its mail client.
ON their www stuff they're doing, Ole had the correct
terminology for it, but go to their www and launch from
there, and intercepting anything else until you play their
game. Gotta sell ya more crappola so you can call and speak with another phone
drone that speaks poor english now. I"m
getting to where my two pet phrases are "you're driving a
car not a phone booth" and "if you want to do business in my country learn my language."

As I told Mark, for whatever reason, most of the traffic from this
echo isn't making it to my primary bbs, and I've been behind
besides, so this all got going while I was out of the loop... ;0

Not sure what's going on there. I suddenly saw a big bunch
in a couple of echoes this morning, so I think there's a
bottleneck somewhere in routing. I know one of the big mail movers wasn't tossing incoming mail bundles for awhile due
to a disk real estate problem or something similar, and we
have another mid level major mail mover down too, and some
routings are just getting settled out from that as well.
That one in fact left our FIdo friend in southwestern Iowa
incommunicado for a week or so, but he's plugged back in via my system now. Have used LInks, not bad, the nice At&T folks have other
ideas though since they've been "powered by Yahoo" of
course.

Oh, btw, you might have confused something there, was Ole
trying to do some telnet stuff with Mark on getting him some files. I"m using totally old school for connections with
fido, regular telephone modem only. Haven't used telnet for years, though nettamer does have a telnet facility, iirc
xmodem only for xfer protocols though.


Regards,
Richard
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
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Quoting Ole Juul to Nancy Backus on 01 Mar 10 03:19:00 <=-

Pegasus is a mail reader/writer and needs an MTA underneath
but you probably don't notice that in a normal Pegasus
setup. One of the MTA's which I have is called FDSMTPOP
and from what I've heard it is often used with Pegasus.
The other one is NETMAIL. If you, or hubby is interted
I put it up here: http://cgs.coalmont.net/dos-mta.zip

I think that hubby wrote something, then, for that... POPSMT or some
such... it's part of what gets pulled up when I use the batch file to
use the ISP for anything...

Oh, and I'm using a version of Lynx for webbrowsing in
DOS... ;)

I recently got that going again. (We talked about it.)
That's an awsome program. Have you tried it for downloading
files? It works!

Yes, off of various websites, mostly text-type files, and to see the
"pretty pictures" via my lxpic to view jpgs and gifs... :)

ttyl neb

... To boldly go where no sane person has any business.
--- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20
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Quoting Richard Webb to Nancy Backus on 01 Mar 10 17:09:16 <=-

As I told Mark, for whatever reason, most of the traffic from this
echo isn't making it to my primary bbs, and I've been behind
besides, so this all got going while I was out of the loop... ;0

Not sure what's going on there. I suddenly saw a big bunch
in a couple of echoes this morning, so I think there's a
bottleneck somewhere in routing. I know one of the big mail movers

Dunno. I was seeing messages everywhere else I had this echo hooked up
for my packets and it was only in this echo that I wasn't getting all
the messages on my main bbs... And so far none of the missing ones have appeared there, but there have been a flurry of messages happening
lately. And finally, they all seem to be appearing at Holodeck. Maybe
things have settled out... maybe...

Oh, btw, you might have confused something there, was Ole
trying to do some telnet stuff with Mark on getting him some files.
I"m using totally old school for connections with fido, regular
telephone modem only. Haven't used telnet for years, though nettamer
does have a telnet facility, iirc xmodem only for xfer protocols
though.

No, I knew that Ole was working on telnet.... I was talking to him about
that also... But all of my operations on the net, including telnet and webbrowsing and email from my ISP, are happening in pure DOS... so what
I've got could have some use for you.... And much of it has been
written by my wizard, or debuggered by him, so that I can do what I do
and stay in DOS, no windows or rodents... ;)

ttyl neb

... Wisdom is knowing which bridge to cross and which to burn...
--- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20
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HI Nancy,

On Wed 2038-Mar-03 23:02, Nancy Backus (1:261/1381) wrote to Richard Webb:

Not sure what's going on there. I suddenly saw a big bunch
in a couple of echoes this morning, so I think there's a
bottleneck somewhere in routing. I know one of the big mail movers

Dunno. I was seeing messages everywhere else I had this echo hooked
up for my packets and it was only in this echo that I wasn't getting
all the messages on my main bbs... And so far none of the missing
ones have appeared there, but there have been a flurry of messages happening lately. And finally, they all seem to be appearing at
Holodeck. Maybe things have settled out... maybe...

I'm thinking so. With this guy going down there were some
folks, especially midwest out of the loop. Couple that with a major big who for a couple of weeks there back around
December wasn't able to move mail well and ...

Oh, btw, you might have confused something there, was Ole
trying to do some telnet stuff with Mark on getting him some files.
I"m using totally old school for connections with fido, regular
telephone modem only.

<snip>

No, I knew that Ole was working on telnet.... I was talking to him
about that also... But all of my operations on the net, including
telnet and webbrowsing and email from my ISP, are happening in pure
DOS... so what I've got could have some use for you.... And much
of it has been written by my wizard, or debuggered by him, so that I
can do what I do and stay in DOS, no windows or rodents... ;)

I"m curious if he thinks any of his mods to mail transfer
stuff would play nice with their at&T yahoo mail stuff. I"m working on Dave Colston to update nettamer, especially since nettamer.net, his domain, etc. are
bellsouth hosted. HE
said the other day when we spoke that except for some folks
in the third world he had few folks interested in his
products anymore. I told him he ought to drop in at WAldo's or elsewhere and check out this echo, he might be surprised
<g>. I"m going to renew the invitation methinks.
So far the old default bellsouth mail server has been
behaving itself, but ...

Regards,
Richard
... IF laughter is the best medicine let's take a double dose!
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
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HI Mark,

On Sat 2038-Feb-27 14:24, mark lewis (1:3634/12) wrote to Richard Webb:

lol. I see the board has been down all day, or should that
be "yesterday" - it's 3 am here... I'll try the board again
when I get up.

Wouldn't know, his system and mine talk via our fidonet
mailers, no problem I saw there.

i'm sure you've just seen my reply to OJ... my firewall blocked him
for too many failed FTP login attempts ;)

ROger that. IF you got that, if it's in your files list
I'll have to get an updated one.
And, thanks Ole for that.


Regards,
Richard
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
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