• Helping to alievate overcrowded animal control centers

    From Matt Munson@1:218/109 to All on Sun Apr 29 20:18:40 2012
    Hello everybody.

    With this bad economy we are having many back yard breeders trying to make a buck and they could care less compared to the ones who have a more reputable process. In Ontario over 33 dogs got seized in mid April by the Inland Valley Humane Society. Sadly it costs money and sometimes lives of the existing animals that reside in the facilities due to the lack of space in the crowded facilities.

    I would like to figure out ways to reduce hoarding and backyard breeding in the
    puppy mill variety. My idea is to seize the property such as the home and or the vehicles to help cover the costs of taking care of these animals. I would like to see municipalities and counties to use money to build a crisis center to make sure they can have surplus space to take care of these poor creatures that got abused by fate. It would be great if we had a satellite office to hold
    75-100 dogs and 40 cats in cases such as this. Seizing property to recover costs would be one way to do this.

    I think putting liens and or seizing property would be a high deterrent to make
    sure people are handling animals in a responsible matter.


    Matt

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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Matt Munson on Mon Apr 30 10:33:24 2012
    On Sun Apr-29-2012 20:18, Matt Munson (1:218/109) wrote to All:

    Hello everybody.

    Hi,

    With this bad economy we are having many back yard breeders trying
    to make a buck and they could care less compared to the ones who
    have a more reputable process. In Ontario over 33 dogs got seized
    in mid April by the Inland Valley Humane Society. Sadly it costs
    money and sometimes lives of the existing animals that reside in
    the facilities due to the lack of space in the crowded facilities.

    That is sad, but with the economy the way it is, people are going to do things they normally wouldn't even think of. They learn on the Internet about people starting businesses in their garages and becomning millionaires and they want a
    piece of the action. Trouble is, they lack management skills and ideas.

    I would like to figure out ways to reduce hoarding and backyard
    breeding in the puppy mill variety. My idea is to seize the
    property such as the home and or the vehicles to help cover the
    costs of taking care of these animals.

    Not a good idea and untenable.

    I would like to see municipalities and counties to use money to
    build a crisis center to make sure they can have surplus space to
    take care of these poor creatures that got abused by fate. It
    would be great if we had a satellite office to hold 75-100 dogs
    and 40 cats in cases such as this. Seizing property to recover
    costs would be one way to do this.

    That's more government and we have too much of it now.

    I think putting liens and or seizing property would be a high
    deterrent to make sure people are handling animals in a responsible matter.

    Let the buyer beware. You can't protect everyone from their own stupidity and lack of common sense. P.T. Barnum was right, you know, but your points are well taken. I just don't think they're workable.

    Just my .02 cents.


    Regards,

    Roger
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  • From Matt Munson@1:218/109 to Roger Nelson on Wed May 2 17:25:00 2012
    Roger Nelson wrote to Matt Munson <=-

    On Sun Apr-29-2012 20:18, Matt Munson (1:218/109) wrote to All:


    I would like to figure out ways to reduce hoarding and backyard
    breeding in the puppy mill variety. My idea is to seize the
    property such as the home and or the vehicles to help cover the
    costs of taking care of these animals.

    Not a good idea and untenable.
    They do this with drug lords and meth labs.

    I would like to see municipalities and counties to use money to
    build a crisis center to make sure they can have surplus space to
    take care of these poor creatures that got abused by fate. It
    would be great if we had a satellite office to hold 75-100 dogs
    and 40 cats in cases such as this. Seizing property to recover
    costs would be one way to do this.

    That's more government and we have too much of it now.
    Yeah, but without regulation people would be poluting rivers with uranium.


    I think putting liens and or seizing property would be a high
    deterrent to make sure people are handling animals in a responsible matter.

    Let the buyer beware. You can't protect everyone from their own
    stupidity and lack of common sense. P.T. Barnum was right, you know,
    but your points are well taken. I just don't think they're workable.

    Agreed. I just dont want to see people exploiting unwanted animals for personal gain.


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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Matt Munson on Thu May 3 23:13:03 2012
    On Wed May-02-2012 17:25, Matt Munson (1:218/109) wrote to Roger Nelson:

    Roger Nelson wrote to Matt Munson <=-

    On Sun Apr-29-2012 20:18, Matt Munson (1:218/109) wrote to All:

    I would like to figure out ways to reduce hoarding and backyard
    breeding in the puppy mill variety. My idea is to seize the
    property such as the home and or the vehicles to help cover the
    costs of taking care of these animals.

    Not a good idea and untenable.

    They do this with drug lords and meth labs.

    That's different.

    I would like to see municipalities and counties to use money to
    build a crisis center to make sure they can have surplus space to
    take care of these poor creatures that got abused by fate. It
    would be great if we had a satellite office to hold 75-100 dogs
    and 40 cats in cases such as this. Seizing property to recover
    costs would be one way to do this.

    That's more government and we have too much of it now.
    Yeah, but without regulation people would be poluting rivers with
    uranium.

    I think putting liens and or seizing property would be a high
    deterrent to make sure people are handling animals in a responsible matter.

    The death penalty was supposed to stop murderers, but didn't. Most people don't realize it's the cold heart that kills.

    Let the buyer beware. You can't protect everyone from their own
    stupidity and lack of common sense. P.T. Barnum was right, you know,
    but your points are well taken. I just don't think they're workable.

    Agreed. I just dont want to see people exploiting unwanted animals
    for personal gain.

    Hey, I'm with you on that and maybe I don't fully understand the situation you face up there. We haven't experienced it here (yet).


    Regards,

    Roger
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