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Richard Webb wrote to James Bradley <=-
On Wed 2038-Dec-01 18:34, James Bradley (1:342/77) wrote to Richard
Webb:
<snippety doo dah>
Back to topic, that bleach is going to take out the smell, and
likely the mattress. I'll bet if the bleach smell alone was
stronger than pure urine, that might discourage further squatting.
YEah, wanna dilute it a bit, but it might be the only tool
ya got. AS we both agree though, that smell's gotta go.
Even if you think you got 'er done, their noses are much
more sensitive than ours, and they'll go to that spot
again, and again, and ...
Back to topic, that bleach is going to take out the smell, and
likely the mattress. I'll bet if the bleach smell alone was
stronger than pure urine, that might discourage further squatting.
YEah, wanna dilute it a bit, but it might be the only tool
ya got. AS we both agree though, that smell's gotta go.
Even if you think you got 'er done, their noses are much
more sensitive than ours, and they'll go to that spot
again, and again, and ...
My initial concern was the caustic nature of bleach. Even diluted,
you're going to get a nice white spot where the yellow one used to
be. Lesser of two evils to be sure! But Matt - I presume - will
want to sleep on the bed too. <scratching head> I'm pretty sure the chlorine gas isn't going to be poisonous, even straight out of the
bottle, but I'm sure I would need some adjustment period to fall
asleep on the thing.
I could buy a new pillow-top for about $200 Canadian, but that
doesn't help Matt out a smidgeoun. Short of replacing the mattress
and disallowing the animals admittance....
Richard Webb wrote to Matt Munson <=-
HI Matt,
On Thu 2038-Nov-25 22:32, Matt Munson (1:218/109) wrote to All:
I am getting tired of my dogs pissing on the beds of my household,
any ideas of preventing it? i do let the dogs outside but they
always piss at random times on our beds.
FIrst, clean the bedding, and the mattresses and box
springs thoroughly (some judicious use of bleach to really
kill the
smell.
FIrst, clean the bedding, and the mattresses and box
springs thoroughly (some judicious use of bleach to really
kill the
smell.
I've tried sprinkling baking soda, and then "steam cleaning" with
vinegar on some cat urine spots. It didn't take too many repeats
before some sensitive noses seemed to accept the results.
But, that smell's gotta go.
Richard Webb wrote to James Bradley <=-
On Sat 2038-Dec-04 12:30, James Bradley (1:342/77) wrote to Richard
Webb:
Back to topic, that bleach is going to take out the smell, and
likely the mattress. I'll bet if the bleach smell alone was
stronger than pure urine, that might discourage further squatting.
YEah, wanna dilute it a bit, but it might be the only tool
ya got. AS we both agree though, that smell's gotta go.
Even if you think you got 'er done, their noses are much
more sensitive than ours, and they'll go to that spot
again, and again, and ...
My initial concern was the caustic nature of bleach. Even diluted,
you're going to get a nice white spot where the yellow one used to
be. Lesser of two evils to be sure! But Matt - I presume - will
want to sleep on the bed too. <scratching head> I'm pretty sure the chlorine gas isn't going to be poisonous, even straight out of the bottle, but I'm sure I would need some adjustment period to fall
asleep on the thing.
RIght, but you gotta get rid of that smell, even if that
means new mattress. WHatever way you do it, that smell's
the trigger, and it's gotta go.
I could buy a new pillow-top for about $200 Canadian, but that
doesn't help Matt out a smidgeoun. Short of replacing the mattress
and disallowing the animals admittance....
YEah that's about what I think they probably go for around
here, haven't bought one in a long time. I'd try your
$1K last I checked.
solution first were I Matt, then I'd go for the dilute
bleach solution. NOt as mild as you want it to be able to
drink cloudy water in an emergency, but dilute it and try
that, air it out good with a fan or something to help get
the smell out. But, that smell's gotta go.
On Sat 2038-Dec-04 12:30, James Bradley (1:342/77) wrote to Richard
Webb:
Back to topic, that bleach is going to take out the smell, and
likely the mattress. I'll bet if the bleach smell alone was
stronger than pure urine, that might discourage further squatting.
YEah, wanna dilute it a bit, but it might be the only tool
ya got. AS we both agree though, that smell's gotta go.
Even if you think you got 'er done, their noses are much
more sensitive than ours, and they'll go to that spot
again, and again, and ...
My initial concern was the caustic nature of bleach. Even diluted,
you're going to get a nice white spot where the yellow one used to
be. Lesser of two evils to be sure! But Matt - I presume - will
want to sleep on the bed too. <scratching head> I'm pretty sure the chlorine gas isn't going to be poisonous, even straight out of the bottle, but I'm sure I would need some adjustment period to fall
asleep on the thing.
RIght, but you gotta get rid of that smell, even if that
means new mattress. WHatever way you do it, that smell's
the trigger, and it's gotta go.
Yuppers, but then there the habitual part has to be addressed.
That's where your bleach could come in. Once they stick their noses
in that, their thoughts of relief go to fleeing. I wonder if
cayenne pepper might encourage that also. I've read it might help
with Cat Scratch Fever.
I could buy a new pillow-top for about $200 Canadian, but that
doesn't help Matt out a smidgeoun. Short of replacing the mattress
and disallowing the animals admittance....
YEah that's about what I think they probably go for around
here, haven't bought one in a long time. I'd try your
$1K last I checked.
There's a fix! As a finish, I'd tend toward using a bleach mix
through a "steam" (Really, just a hot water-bleach infusion, as
mentioned on another echo. ;-) cleaner over the whole shot to even
out the colour. <G>
Richard Webb wrote to James Bradley <=-
On Mon 2038-Nov-29 00:41, James Bradley (1:342/77) wrote to Matt
Munson:
FIrst, clean the bedding, and the mattresses and box
springs thoroughly (some judicious use of bleach to really
kill the smell.
I've tried sprinkling baking soda, and then "steam cleaning" with
vinegar on some cat urine spots. It didn't take too many repeats
before some sensitive noses seemed to accept the results.
INdeed, that's probably a good idea to try too. NOt as
caustic as the bleach. But, you gotta get rid of that
smell, cause that's the trigger. THat smell says "okay to
piss here" and they will. GOtta lose that smell to get
positive results.
Saw you in another echo recently, see you've been without
access to a bbs for awhile. GOod to see you back.
Saw you in another echo recently, see you've been without
access to a bbs for awhile. GOod to see you back.
Kevin moved to an OS called ROM-DOS. (Don't ask me! ;-) Then, while
I was downloading mail one day, it would appear that his modem
skipped retirement and went straight to the grave. What're you
gonna do, eh? <G>
Back to topic, that bleach is going to take out the smell, and
likely the mattress. I'll bet if the bleach smell alone was
stronger than pure urine, that might discourage further squatting.
Richard Webb wrote to James Bradley <=-
Back to topic, that bleach is going to take out the smell, and
likely the mattress. I'll bet if the bleach smell alone was
stronger than pure urine, that might discourage further squatting.
YEah, wanna dilute it a bit, but it might be the only tool
ya got. AS we both agree though, that smell's gotta go.
Even if you think you got 'er done, their noses are much
more sensitive than ours, and they'll go to that spot
again, and again, and ...
My initial concern was the caustic nature of bleach. Even diluted,
you're going to get a nice white spot where the yellow one used to
be. Lesser of two evils to be sure! But Matt - I presume - will
want to sleep on the bed too. <scratching head> I'm pretty sure the chlorine gas isn't going to be poisonous, even straight out of the bottle, but I'm sure I would need some adjustment period to fall
asleep on the thing.
RIght, but you gotta get rid of that smell, even if that
means new mattress. WHatever way you do it, that smell's
the trigger, and it's gotta go.
Yuppers, but then there the habitual part has to be addressed.
That's where your bleach could come in. Once they stick their noses
in that, their thoughts of relief go to fleeing. I wonder if
cayenne pepper might encourage that also. I've read it might help
with Cat Scratch Fever.
NOt being a cat person I'm not that familiar with their
behavior patterns, but two things have to happen. Get rid
of the smelll which is the trigger, then deny them the area
when you're not there. removing the trigger should
suffice, but just in case, deny them the area when one's
not home as well.
I have to laugh at people that say "... doesn't get up on
the couch." YEah right, soon as you're not around fido's
on the couch snoozing away. HE hears your car pull up, off
the couch he comes, because the unpleasant part is you
catching
him on the couch. OTherwise the couch is just as comfy as
it ever was. One reason I don't deny my dogs the
furniture. IT's an exercise in pointless #1, and I have
dogs. IF you
choose to enter my home you know i have a dog at the
moment. IF that offends the nondog person then he/she doesn't need
to enter. My mother complains about the fact I have a dog,
because she's allergic. When I saw this little bit in
funny I posted it to her in email.
To pacify you, my dear pets, I have posted the following
message on our front door:
RULES FOR NON-PET OWNERS WHO VISIT AND LIKE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT OUR PETS:
1. They live here. You don't.
2. If you don't want their hair on your clothes, stay off the furniture.(That's why they call it "fur" niture.)
3. I like my pets a lot better than most people.
4. To you, it's an animal. To me, he/she is an adopted
son/daughter who is short, hairy, walks on all fours and
doesn't speak clearly.
Dogs and cats are easier than kids:
A) They eat less;
B) They don't ask for money all the time;
C) They are easier to train i.e. usually come when called,
never drive your car and don't hang out with drug-using
friends;
D) They don't smoke or drink;
E) They don't worry about having to buy the latest fashions;
F) They don't wear my clothes;
G) They don't need a gazillion dollars for college; and
C) If they get pregnant, you can sell the children.
I could buy a new pillow-top for about $200 Canadian, but that...
that I inherited a king size, preacher and his wife got a
new water bed setup and we got their old king. That was
fun getting up and down a flight of stairs.
I'd also suggest that Matt get some books on canine behavior from his friendly local library. From some of the questions he's
asked in this echo over the last year or so I'm
gathering that he's not acquired a lifelong familiarity
with dogs. THere are some good ones that predate Caesar,
not
that Caesar isn't good, quite the contrary, he's very good,
but I think some others start from a better place to the
neophyte to dogs. They're very much social animals though,
and what we often think is a controlled behavior is only
controlled when we're around, because it's our reaction to
the behavior they're trying to avoid, which doesn't really
solve the problem.
NOt being a cat person I'm not that familiar with their
behavior patterns, but two things have to happen. Get rid
of the smelll which is the trigger, then deny them the area
when you're not there. removing the trigger should
suffice, but just in case, deny them the area when one's
not home as well.
Not being a cat person either - it still didn't prevent me from
adopting one from dad's estate. <L>
I have to laugh at people that say "... doesn't get up on
the couch." YEah right, soon as you're not around fido's
on the couch snoozing away. HE hears your car pull up, off
the couch he comes, because the unpleasant part is you
catching
him on the couch. OTherwise the couch is just as comfy as
it ever was. One reason I don't deny my dogs the
furniture. IT's an exercise in pointless #1, and I have
Well trained/conditioned. If the pet misses the sound of the engine pulling up, the familiar jingle of the keys in the lock give them
the definitive clue to get off the furniture. All is well in
Fido-land. <EG>
dogs. IF you<snip>
choose to enter my home you know i have a dog at the
moment. IF that offends the nondog person then he/she doesn't need
to enter. My mother complains about the fact I have a dog,
because she's allergic. When I saw this little bit in
funny I posted it to her in email.
I told a new mom that every parent should be required to own a dog
first. Her defensive nature was to dismiss anything that came out
of my mouth, but I stand by it. If you can't provide the
necessities of life to an animal, and learn how to coexist with any modicum of harmony and decorum, a "baby license" should not be
issued.
I could buy a new pillow-top for about $200 Canadian, but that
...
<wow> I think somebody gave us one after Katrina. Before
that I inherited a king size, preacher and his wife got a
new water bed setup and we got their old king. That was
fun getting up and down a flight of stairs.
Tossed my $75 King into the BR window. (The hall is filled with
boxed hardwood flooring for at least another year by the looks of
things.) Good thing I didn't need a box spring of the same size, or
I would have needed to use a saw to *make* it fit. I've seen a lot
of king mattresses rest on two smaller box-springs, so that would
have been the way to go.
I'd also suggest that Matt get some books on canine behavior from his friendly local library. From some of the questions he's
Oh, I would even encourage him to entertain the grumpy librarian,
and travel some distance if need be.
asked in this echo over the last year or so I'm
gathering that he's not acquired a lifelong familiarity
It takes time, edumucation, instincts, flexibility, understanding...
My first and only dog was a Spaniel-Terrier (suspected... His dad
was a fence jumper.) As such, he was greedy with food, and *loved*
his independence. Since his passing, I learned a new trick to
abscond his food without him batting an eyelash, but I was
marginally successful with getting him to come when called. What a
*load* of work that was! The Barbara Woodhouse method was little
use, but it was the only readily available resource to me at the
time.
It must have been a PBS special that taught me to play a hide and
seek trick on him when he was too busy chasing cow-patties. That
turned his attitude after only a few episodes, but I had to remind
him often and adapt to his stubborn nature.
When you mentioned Ceasar, my notion went towards Rome. <L>
What little I've seen his TV show, was intriguing! What a great
source to understand a dog's behavior. A pet owner should not
however ignore other sources.
I am getting tired of my dogs pissing on the beds of my household,
any ideas of preventing it? i do let the dogs outside but they
always piss at random times on our beds.