• The dog

    From Matt Munson@1:218/109 to All on Sat Apr 16 00:31:12 2011
    Hello everybody.

    My dog is going under surgery at age 3 months for the umbilical and thoratic hernia and doing the neutering at the same time. That is going to be an expensive adventure.

    My blog inlandutopia.com has a picture of the dog.

    Matt

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  • From Bob Ackley@1:300/3 to Matt Munson on Sun Apr 17 06:21:26 2011
    Replying to a message of Matt Munson to All:

    Hello everybody.

    My dog is going under surgery at age 3 months for the umbilical and thoratic hernia and doing the neutering at the same time. That is
    going to be an expensive adventure.

    I know the feeling. I laid out just over $1,800 to the vet this year. In January of 2007
    I laid out $1,500 on one dog - she'd been in a fight and spent about a week at the vet's.

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  • From Matt Munson@1:218/109 to Bob Ackley on Sun Apr 17 23:05:07 2011
    Hello Bob.

    Replying to a msg dated 17 Apr 11 06:21, from you to me.

    Should of just bought pet insurance before teh dog's first visit so we wouldnt know any pre-existing conditions lol

    Matt

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  • From Richard Webb@1:116/901 to Matt Munson on Mon Apr 18 13:44:09 2011
    HI Matt,

    On Sun 2039-Apr-17 23:05, Matt Munson (1:218/109) wrote to Bob Ackley:

    Should of just bought pet insurance before teh dog's first visit so
    we wouldnt know any pre-existing conditions lol

    YEah guess I could have done that, but didn't either.

    Last week our Rottie started having troubles again, back
    leg(s) lie in the corner, cry whenever she did anything with the back end, such
    as use it to push to get herself in the
    car.
    A couple weeks ago when left rear leg was giving her
    troubles we went to the vet, vet gave her some anti
    inflamatory of some kind.

    This time, we're treating more aggressivly: PRednizone
    (spelling) and Doxycycline (spelling) the doxy ends this
    week, we cut back the dosage on the steroid.

    HE says if this doesn't seem to do the trick then we're in
    for some complex diagnostic stuff, which will mean sedating
    her etc.

    HE says he ate his fee on this visit, think he was
    disappointed the anti inflamatory therpay didn't knock it
    out, but the pills were close to two pics of Franklin last
    week.

    Regards,
    Richard
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  • From Bob Ackley@1:300/3 to Matt Munson on Mon Apr 18 08:17:12 2011
    Replying to a message of Matt Munson to Bob Ackley:

    Hello Bob.

    Replying to a msg dated 17 Apr 11 06:21, from you to me.

    Should of just bought pet insurance before teh dog's first visit so
    we wouldnt know any pre-existing conditions lol

    I looked into getting health insurance for my dogs. Too pricey. OK if I only had one,
    but I have twelve - and they don't have a 'family plan.'

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  • From Matt Munson@1:218/109 to Bob Ackley on Mon Apr 18 10:09:47 2011
    Hello Bob.

    18 Apr 11 08:17, you wrote to me:


    I looked into getting health insurance for my dogs. Too pricey. OK
    if I only had one, but I have twelve - and they don't have a 'family plan.'

    One company offers a 5% discount. Which only shaves 17 bucks off.


    Matt

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  • From WAYNE CHIRNSIDE@1:123/140 to RICHARD WEBB on Mon Apr 18 14:53:00 2011
    RICHARD WEBB wrote to MATT MUNSON <=-

    HI Matt,

    On Sun 2039-Apr-17 23:05, Matt Munson (1:218/109) wrote to Bob Ackley:

    Should of just bought pet insurance before teh dog's first visit so
    we wouldnt know any pre-existing conditions lol

    YEah guess I could have done that, but didn't either.

    Last week our Rottie started having troubles again, back
    leg(s) lie in the corner, cry whenever she did anything with the back
    end, such as use it to push to get herself in the
    car.
    A couple weeks ago when left rear leg was giving her
    troubles we went to the vet, vet gave her some anti
    inflamatory of some kind.

    This time, we're treating more aggressivly: PRednizone
    (spelling) and Doxycycline (spelling) the doxy ends this
    week, we cut back the dosage on the steroid.

    HE says if this doesn't seem to do the trick then we're in
    for some complex diagnostic stuff, which will mean sedating
    her etc.

    HE says he ate his fee on this visit, think he was
    disappointed the anti inflamatory therpay didn't knock it
    out, but the pills were close to two pics of Franklin last
    week.

    I kept my Pit Bull going some three years afer he'd otherwise have had to have been put down on dexamethasone.

    Of course I limited the dosage to 1/2 what the vet recommended as there's downsides to steroid use and 1/2 seemed to do the trick right up
    to where the end was inevitable and there was no putting it off.

    So I had a non neutered Pit Bull on steroids and still he was
    the sweetest tempered, most trustworthy and most gregarious dog I've ever known.

    Smart as heck and more than a bit clever enough to manipulate
    me into getting his way on a number of things.


    I miss that animal something fierce.

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  • From Richard Webb@1:116/901 to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE on Tue Apr 19 13:09:20 2011
    Hi Wayne,

    On Mon 2039-Apr-18 14:53, WAYNE CHIRNSIDE (1:123/140) wrote to RICHARD WEBB:

    <snip>
    This time, we're treating more aggressivly: PRednizone
    (spelling) and Doxycycline (spelling) the doxy ends this
    week, we cut back the dosage on the steroid.

    HE says if this doesn't seem to do the trick then we're in
    for some complex diagnostic stuff, which will mean sedating
    her etc.


    I kept my Pit Bull going some three years afer he'd otherwise have
    had to have been put down on dexamethasone.

    Of course I limited the dosage to 1/2 what the vet recommended as
    there's downsides to steroid use and 1/2 seemed to do the trick
    right up to where the end was inevitable and there was no putting it
    off.

    So I had a non neutered Pit Bull on steroids and still he was the
    sweetest tempered, most trustworthy and most gregarious dog I've
    ever known.

    Wouldn't doubt it, all in how they're raised and treated.
    I'm hoping this steroid regimen seems to solve the problem
    for quite awhile. WE get her over this I'm just going to
    have to find more opportunities for her to get good exercise too, that'll help maybe.
    Strengthening can't hurt.

    That later ws on the agenda for this spring/summer anyway,
    but now this.


    Regards,
    Richard
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  • From WAYNE CHIRNSIDE@1:123/140 to RICHARD WEBB on Tue Apr 19 10:55:00 2011
    RICHARD WEBB wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

    Hi Wayne,

    On Mon 2039-Apr-18 14:53, WAYNE CHIRNSIDE (1:123/140) wrote to RICHARD WEBB:

    <snip>
    This time, we're treating more aggressivly: PRednizone
    (spelling) and Doxycycline (spelling) the doxy ends this
    week, we cut back the dosage on the steroid.

    HE says if this doesn't seem to do the trick then we're in
    for some complex diagnostic stuff, which will mean sedating
    her etc.


    I kept my Pit Bull going some three years afer he'd otherwise have
    had to have been put down on dexamethasone.

    Of course I limited the dosage to 1/2 what the vet recommended as
    there's downsides to steroid use and 1/2 seemed to do the trick
    right up to where the end was inevitable and there was no putting it
    off.

    So I had a non neutered Pit Bull on steroids and still he was the
    sweetest tempered, most trustworthy and most gregarious dog I've
    ever known.

    Wouldn't doubt it, all in how they're raised and treated.
    I'm hoping this steroid regimen seems to solve the problem
    for quite awhile. WE get her over this I'm just going to
    have to find more opportunities for her to get good exercise too,
    that'll help maybe.
    Strengthening can't hurt.

    That later ws on the agenda for this spring/summer anyway,
    but now this.

    Well an addendum is in order for both clarity and good information.

    I NEVER stopped training the animal.
    Not that that training required much in the way of time or effort
    it was hugely important that the animal be consistantly reminded
    who the pack leader was.

    Simple as demanding quick response to commands from time to time on
    his daily routine and walks.

    Now were you to treat him as some kind of overgrown stuffed animal
    and dismiss this training for a extended period of time all bets would be off and I'd not guarantee his behavior at all.

    For instance, giving him his first bath after acquiring him as an adult
    at two years of age was shall we say interesting?

    Thereafter he walked into the tub on his own on my command.

    A few times when I'd gotten complacent about his reliability
    for a period of a couple of months I was reminded by him
    being stubburn or challanging me.

    This requires immediate and forceful response which in these cases
    consisted of little more than a sharply barked command.
    Never any physical discipline, what'd be the point, the breed's
    essentially invulnerable to pain.

    Not a breed I could recommend for the inattentive or irresponsible.
    Given proper attention and care I'd have no other.

    Best of continuing luck with yours.

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  • From Richard Webb@1:116/901 to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE on Wed Apr 20 12:50:02 2011
    HI Wayne,

    On Tue 2039-Apr-19 10:55, WAYNE CHIRNSIDE (1:123/140) wrote to RICHARD WEBB:

    <big snip>

    Wouldn't doubt it, all in how they're raised and treated.
    I'm hoping this steroid regimen seems to solve the problem
    for quite awhile. WE get her over this I'm just going to
    have to find more opportunities for her to get good exercise too,
    <snip>
    Well an addendum is in order for both clarity and good information.

    I NEVER stopped training the animal.
    Not that that training required much in the way of time or effort
    it was hugely important that the animal be consistantly reminded who
    the pack leader was.

    Indeed it is, and Schotze knows that I'm boss. She and I
    have had our contests of wills, but I always win. My lady
    is the one she's the "stuffed animal" for. I keep telling
    kathy that's "momy's teddy bear."

    The vet usually muzzles rotties, pits, etc. that we go to.
    YEs we've switched vets I think since I"ve seen you in this
    echo, you may have been around to read my complaints on that one.
    But, this guy, small town vet, he usually muzzles those
    breeds. NOt Schotze. Just wants me there to help him keep
    control of her, and let her know that she's safe.
    Long as she's with me she knows that she's supposed to do as instructed.

    She still isn't real fond of the bathtub, but it's the
    surface more than the water. ONce she gets in there and you start bathing her she loves itl.

    I always really liked dobermans, but after adopting Roxy off the streets of New
    ORleans and then this one, I'm totally
    converted, Rottweilers, as is true with pits, have a
    reputation which doesn't fit who they really are if trained
    and given love. Schotze acts as "Service dog" for Kathy,
    picking up things she drops, etc.
    I've trained her to that one.


    Regards,
    Richard
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  • From WAYNE CHIRNSIDE@1:123/140 to RICHARD WEBB on Wed Apr 20 12:22:00 2011
    RICHARD WEBB wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

    Hello Richard.

    HI Wayne,

    On Tue 2039-Apr-19 10:55, WAYNE CHIRNSIDE (1:123/140) wrote to RICHARD WEBB:

    <big snip>

    Wouldn't doubt it, all in how they're raised and treated.
    I'm hoping this steroid regimen seems to solve the problem
    for quite awhile. WE get her over this I'm just going to
    have to find more opportunities for her to get good exercise too,
    <snip>
    Well an addendum is in order for both clarity and good information.

    I NEVER stopped training the animal.
    Not that that training required much in the way of time or effort
    it was hugely important that the animal be consistantly reminded who
    the pack leader was.

    Indeed it is, and Schotze knows that I'm boss. She and I
    have had our contests of wills, but I always win. My lady
    is the one she's the "stuffed animal" for. I keep telling
    kathy that's "momy's teddy bear."

    Yeah, Spanky tried to game me much more often than challenge
    me and then it'd been my fault for having neglected training for some
    two months or more.

    The vet usually muzzles rotties, pits, etc. that we go to.
    YEs we've switched vets I think since I"ve seen you in this
    echo, you may have been around to read my complaints on that one.

    You and I both.
    A vet I'd been going to had drawn back a syringe and drilled Spanky
    like he'd drill a dart board, Spanky didn't flinch, I did.
    New veteranarian.

    Not only were the new veteranarian people more caring but thirty percent cheaper as well.
    Never any question of muzzling Spanky, he looked forward to the vets.

    But, this guy, small town vet, he usually muzzles those
    breeds. NOt Schotze. Just wants me there to help him keep
    control of her, and let her know that she's safe.
    Long as she's with me she knows that she's supposed to do as
    instructed.

    Spanky was good to go without me for some period a time, to venture
    a guess and not abused two months before he'd question authority and the canine nature assert to test the limits.

    I actually had a neighbor who dropped by who tried to abuse Spanky by pulling at his tail and ears, he thought it amusing.
    I thought him an idiot but tolerated it until Spanky would give that look,
    hey dad pull this idiot off of me.

    I even told him I could take food, turkey meat no less, out of Spanky's mouth without a problem and I could.
    Jim tried as well and though at no risk he couldn't overcome that 2,000 LB
    bite force jaws.

    She still isn't real fond of the bathtub, but it's the
    surface more than the water. ONce she gets in there and you start
    bathing her she loves itl.

    Well Spanky wasn't fond either but I made it on command as part of training.
    I think for a canine a strong scent may be a way of asserting dominance?

    I always really liked dobermans, but after adopting Roxy off the
    streets of New ORleans and then this one, I'm totally
    converted, Rottweilers, as is true with pits, have a
    reputation which doesn't fit who they really are if trained
    and given love. Schotze acts as "Service dog" for Kathy,
    picking up things she drops, etc.
    I've trained her to that one.

    Spanky served as a service dog for me, companion service animal.
    Had I been more ambulatory I'd have loved to have taken him
    around to visit with the infirm.

    Had I been blind can you imagine a Pit Bull as a service dog?
    What a hoot that would have been, legally bound to not deny admittance
    in public places it'd have raised more than a few eyebrows methinks.

    Thanks for the reply Richard.
    Any excuse to brag on that animal is welcome and to tell
    you the truth I'm on the verge of tearing up thinking about him.

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  • From Richard Webb@1:116/901 to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE on Mon May 9 18:32:19 2011
    Hi Wayne,


    On Wed 2039-Apr-20 12:22, WAYNE CHIRNSIDE (1:123/140) wrote to RICHARD WEBB:

    <big snip>

    The vet usually muzzles rotties, pits, etc. that we go to.
    YEs we've switched vets I think since I"ve seen you in this
    echo, you may have been around to read my complaints on that one.

    You and I both.
    A vet I'd been going to had drawn back a syringe and drilled Spanky
    like he'd drill a dart board, Spanky didn't flinch, I did.
    New veteranarian.

    That wasn't my problem with last vets, they were more
    expensive as well. Schotze liked them just fine too, but
    they couldn't give me straight answers when they, or some
    marketer sent in their name a (try to scarify the dog owner) letter re heartworm and other parasite preventatives.
    When they wouldn't give me a straight answer I switched
    vets.

    <snip again>

    But, this guy, small town vet, he usually muzzles those
    breeds. NOt Schotze. Just wants me there to help him keep
    control of her, and let her know that she's safe.
    Long as she's with me she knows that she's supposed to do as
    instructed.

    Spanky was good to go without me for some period a time, to venture
    a guess and not abused two months before he'd question authority and
    the canine nature assert to test the limits.

    Indeed, I'm sure she would be as well, but he just feels
    safer that way.

    I actually had a neighbor who dropped by who tried to abuse Spanky
    by pulling at his tail and ears, he thought it amusing.
    I thought him an idiot but tolerated it until Spanky would give that
    look, hey dad pull this idiot off of me.

    YEp, known people like that. Budy, my Dane/shepherd/dobie
    mix used to live in a kennel, nice run with lots of room,
    doghouse, etc. This kid used to ride by on his way home
    from school and torment BUddy through the fence, so one day
    I left the gate ajar where Buddy could open it with his nose and give hcase. The kid ceased the stupidity after that
    one.

    She still isn't real fond of the bathtub, but it's the
    surface more than the water. ONce she gets in there and you start
    bathing her she loves itl.

    Well Spanky wasn't fond either but I made it on command as part of training. I think for a canine a strong scent may be a way of
    asserting dominance?

    SHe tolerates it, and does what she's supposed to. We still have a contest of wills over "leave it" a common command
    taught to dog guides to tell them to ignore whatever is
    catching their attention and tend to business.

    I always really liked dobermans, but after adopting Roxy off the
    streets of New ORleans and then this one, I'm totally
    converted, Rottweilers, as is true with pits, have a
    reputation which doesn't fit who they really are if trained
    and given love. Schotze acts as "Service dog" for Kathy,
    picking up things she drops, etc.
    I've trained her to that one.

    Spanky served as a service dog for me, companion service animal. Had
    I been more ambulatory I'd have loved to have taken him
    around to visit with the infirm.

    THat would be nice for Schotze too, but she scares people.
    Had I been blind can you imagine a Pit Bull as a service dog? What a
    hoot that would have been, legally bound to not deny admittance in
    public places it'd have raised more than a few eyebrows methinks.

    YEah but if it is they can't refuse you. Although Roxy was
    not trained she picked up on enough that I could make her
    "pass" as dog guide with the right harness on her.

    Thanks for the reply Richard.
    Any excuse to brag on that animal is welcome and to tell
    you the truth I'm on the verge of tearing up thinking about him.

    I know how you feel. AFter Buddy I said never again, then I met Roxy on the streets of NEw ORleans. WHen she had to go
    after the strokes I said never again again and then a ham in the twin cities told me that were I interested in rotties
    there were some fine breeders, and I'd get a better quality
    animal at less cost than down south. HE was a dog person
    who'd lived all over the south, and he told me that at least one of the reputable breeders he knew of nearby had pups for sale at that time, and was advertising in the paper. I got
    a paper the next day, and went to look. NEedless to say, I
    left there $1200 poorer with an appointment to pick up a
    puppy in 3 days.


    Regards,
    Richard
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