• A MORAL ECONOMY.

    From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to All on Thu Feb 3 05:47:00 2011



    I ran across this today. It's an examination of what makes up a
    moral economy. I happen to find it a compatible philosophy. What
    do you think?


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    ** 1. The economy exists for the person, not the person for the
    economy.

    2. All economic life should be shaped by moral principles.
    Economic choices and institutions must be judged by how they
    protect or undermine the life and dignity of the human person,
    support the family and serve the common good.

    3. A fundamental moral measure of any economy is how the poor
    and vulnerable are faring.

    4. All people have a right to life and to secure the basic
    necessities of life (e.g., food, clothing, shelter, education,
    health care, safe environment, economic security.)

    Anytime a socialist liberal starts talking about morality, grab your
    wallet and call your lawyer.


    Jeff

    CMPQwk 1.42-21 9999
    Progressive taxation is economic slavery for those who succeed .....

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  • From Earl Croasmun@1:124/311 to Jeff Binkley on Thu Feb 3 09:32:22 2011
    4. All people have a right to life and to secure the basic
    necessities of life (e.g., food, clothing, shelter, education,
    health care, safe environment, economic security.)

    Anytime a socialist liberal starts talking about morality, grab your
    wallet and call your lawyer.

    I don't know about that, but when you see someone say things like "The
    economy exists for the person, not the person for the economy" you know
    right off that they understand nothing of economics.

    Did you catch the "right to work" part? And the "corresponding duty to
    work?" Interesting that the "right" to food does not have a corresponding "duty" to eat. Nor is there a corresponding duty of farmers to give away
    their food.

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  • From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to Earl Croasmun on Fri Feb 4 05:44:00 2011



    4. All people have a right to life and to secure the basic
    necessities of life (e.g., food, clothing, shelter, education,
    health care, safe environment, economic security.)

    Anytime a socialist liberal starts talking about morality, grab
    your wallet and call your lawyer.

    I don't know about that, but when you see someone say things like
    "The economy exists for the person, not the person for the economy"
    you know right off that they understand nothing of economics.

    Indeed, especially the business aspect of it.


    Did you catch the "right to work" part? And the "corresponding duty
    to work?" Interesting that the "right" to food does not have a EC>corresponding "duty" to eat. Nor is there a corresponding duty of EC>farmers to give away their food.

    Yes. Where I was really going towards is that the socialist liberal
    will always start out talking about equality, opportunity, fairness etc.
    Then about halfway through the conversation it will turn into rights, entitlements etc. They will often confuse opportunity with
    entitlements.


    Jeff

    CMPQwk 1.42-21 9999
    Democrats -- The party of economic obstruction ....

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  • From BOB KLAHN@1:123/140 to JEFF BINKLEY on Fri Feb 4 23:18:48 2011



    I ran across this today. It's an examination of what makes up a
    moral economy. I happen to find it a compatible philosophy. What
    do you think?


    *********************************************************************
    ***
    ** 1. The economy exists for the person, not the person for the
    economy.

    2. All economic life should be shaped by moral principles.
    Economic choices and institutions must be judged by how they
    protect or undermine the life and dignity of the human person,
    support the family and serve the common good.

    3. A fundamental moral measure of any economy is how the poor
    and vulnerable are faring.

    4. All people have a right to life and to secure the basic
    necessities of life (e.g., food, clothing, shelter, education,
    health care, safe environment, economic security.)

    Anytime a socialist liberal starts talking about morality,
    grab your wallet and call your lawyer.

    Or your minister. Or Rabbi. Or whatever spokesman for the moral
    teachings you follow.


    A Catholic Framework for Economic Life

    A Statement of the U.S. Catholic Bishops

    November 1996

    As followers of Jesus Christ and participants in a powerful
    economy, Catholics in the United States are called to work for
    greater economic justice in the face of persistent poverty,
    growing income-gaps, and increasing discussion of economic
    issues in the United States and around the world. We urge
    Catholics to use the following ethical framework for economic
    life as principles for reflection, criteria for judgment and
    directions for action. These principles are drawn directly from
    Catholic teaching on economic life.

    1. The economy exists for the person, not the person for the
    economy.


    BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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  • From BOB KLAHN@1:123/140 to EARL CROASMUN on Fri Feb 4 23:16:18 2011

    4. All people have a right to life and to secure the basic
    necessities of life (e.g., food, clothing, shelter, education,
    health care, safe environment, economic security.)

    Anytime a socialist liberal starts talking about morality, grab your
    wallet and call your lawyer.

    I don't know about that, but when you see someone say
    things like "The economy exists for the person, not the
    person for the economy" you know right off that they
    understand nothing of economics.

    As you claim to be an economist, tell us about your
    interpretation - as an economist.

    Did you catch the "right to work" part? And the
    "corresponding duty to work?" Interesting that the "right"
    to food does not have a corresponding "duty" to eat. Nor
    is there a corresponding duty of farmers to give away their
    food.

    Are you anti-Catholic as well?

    A Catholic Framework for Economic Life

    A Statement of the U.S. Catholic Bishops

    November 1996

    As followers of Jesus Christ and participants in a powerful
    economy, Catholics in the United States are called to work for
    greater economic justice in the face of persistent poverty,
    growing income-gaps, and increasing discussion of economic
    issues in the United States and around the world. We urge
    Catholics to use the following ethical framework for economic
    life as principles for reflection, criteria for judgment and
    directions for action. These principles are drawn directly from
    Catholic teaching on economic life.

    1. The economy exists for the person, not the person for the
    economy.

    ...

    Somehow I suspect your thinking is shallow compared to these
    bishops.

    BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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  • From BOB KLAHN@1:123/140 to JEFF BINKLEY on Fri Feb 4 23:17:32 2011

    ...

    4. All people have a right to life and to secure the basic
    necessities of life (e.g., food, clothing, shelter, education, EC>>~> BK> health care, safe environment, economic security.)

    Anytime a socialist liberal starts talking about morality, grab
    your wallet and call your lawyer.

    I don't know about that, but when you see someone say things like
    "The economy exists for the person, not the person for the economy"
    you know right off that they understand nothing of economics.

    Indeed, especially the business aspect of it.

    You mean the business that sunk this country into a near
    depression?

    Did you catch the "right to work" part? And the "corresponding duty
    to work?" Interesting that the "right" to food does not have a EC>>corresponding "duty" to eat. Nor is there a corresponding duty of EC>>farmers to give away their food.

    Yes. Where I was really going towards is that the
    socialist liberal will always start out talking about
    equality, opportunity, fairness etc. Then about halfway
    through the conversation it will turn into rights,
    entitlements etc. They will often confuse opportunity with
    entitlements.

    You have a problem with Catholic teachings I see.


    A Catholic Framework for Economic Life

    A Statement of the U.S. Catholic Bishops

    November 1996

    As followers of Jesus Christ and participants in a powerful
    economy, Catholics in the United States are called to work for
    greater economic justice in the face of persistent poverty,
    growing income-gaps, and increasing discussion of economic
    issues in the United States and around the world. We urge
    Catholics to use the following ethical framework for economic
    life as principles for reflection, criteria for judgment and
    directions for action. These principles are drawn directly from
    Catholic teaching on economic life.

    1. The economy exists for the person, not the person for the
    economy.

    ...

    BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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