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    From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to ROSS SAUER on Sat Nov 13 11:35:00 2010
    On 11-08-10, ROSS SAUER said to TIM RICHARDSON:



    But had the republican party gotten behind the Tea Party candidates,
    lent them solid support, instead of (in some cases) sniping at them
    from the side lines, the GOP would be in control of both houses of
    congress right now.


    The GOP, and the (now former) Tea Party candidates are distancing RS>themselves from the Tea Party, since far too many are reactionary RS>demagogues.


    You need to get your head out of the sand and take a breath of fresh air once in awhile, Otto. Being Klahn's sock puppet is robbing you of your ability to think for yourself.......oh wait! You never could think for yourself, could you?


    The Tea Party itself is fragmented, and fragmenting further, into RS>factions, that are gleefully slamming each other.


    You better look again, Otto. Tea Party candidates got elected all over the place!


    This is the typical Tea Party/reactionary right-winger response to
    making stupid mistakes.


    Taking the House away from democrats in the biggest hit job since the late 1940's isn't a `stupid mistake'.....except of course, to you and Klahn.


    Here's a few other things for you to stew over:


    Of Course Sarah Palin's 'Unfit': She's a Republican - Larry Elder - Townhall Conservative


    How much of the "Sarah Palin is not ready for prime time" criticism is
    sincere? When the harping comes from the left, it's difficult to take it seriously. Try to follow the bouncing standards.


    Barbara Walters gushed over John F. Kennedy Jr. and foresaw a political future for him. Never mind that the young man had flunked the New York bar exam -- twice.


    "Dumb" former President George W. Bush, caricatured as a slacker in an Oliver Stone movie, made better grades in college than did Al Gore, his opponent in 2000. Gore dropped out of divinity school after earning five F's. Then he entered law school and dropped out. He won a Nobel Peace Prize for his anti-global warming crusade, and his documentary won an Academy Award, but
    Gore got a D in science at Harvard. Bush also scored higher on his verbal SAT than did Rhodes scholar and "brainy" presidential candidate Bill Bradley.


    "Dumb" former President Ronald Reagan majored in economics. But the late Sen. Edward Kennedy, who ran for the presidency, got expelled from Harvard for hiring someone to take a Spanish test.


    "Dumb" Republican former President Gerald Ford was ridiculed as a bumbling doofus by Chevy Chase on "Saturday Night Live." Democratic former President Lyndon Baines Johnson famously quipped that Ford, who played football for the University of Michigan, "spent too much time playing football without a helmet."


    But Ford graduated from Yale Law School, the same school that produced Bill
    and Hillary Clinton.


    The worldly and literate Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., who ran for president in 2004, didn't exactly kill on his military aptitude test. He got half the questions right and half the questions wrong -- dead average. He explained his poor showing by insisting, "I must have been drinking the night before."


    Vice President Joe Biden's 1988 quest for the presidency evaporated when he plagiarized a speech by a British politician. When someone questioned his academic credentials at a campaign stop, the offended Biden claimed that he
    had a full academic scholarship at law school and graduated in the top half of his class. In fact, he had a need-based half-scholarship and graduated near
    the bottom -- 76th out of 85.


    Biden, in his political career, has stacked up enough gaffes for a dozen politicians. Where to start? How about the time, during a 2008 campaign rally, when Biden stood at the podium and implored a local lawmaker to "stand up."

    The man in question was in a wheelchair. Or at a campaign rally when he said the opponent's plan would do nothing about "a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B- S, jobs."


    More importantly, what about Biden's judgment? Shortly after he became senator in 1972, he voted to cut off funding the South Vietnamese in their war against the North Vietnamese invaders despite President Richard Nixon's promise to provide financial support and military airstrikes against a North invasion.

    The country's failure to make good on this promise led to hundreds of
    thousands of Vietnamese "boat people" and to the murder of an estimated 2 million Cambodians by the Khmer Rouge. Biden opposed the Reagan military buildup and the Strategic Defense Initiative, which even some Reagan-haters grudgingly concede hastened the demise of the Soviet Union. Biden called Reagan's pursuit of SDI "one of the most reckless and irresponsible acts in
    the history of modern statecraft."


    Biden opposed the first Gulf war, the "good" one. He voted for the Iraq War
    and co-authored a Washington Post op-ed piece in which he warned that our involvement would take a decade and urged the nation to show patience. When
    the war went south, along with public opinion, Biden suggested breaking Iraq into three parts. Then Biden reversed his support, said he regretted his vote, and opposed Bush's successful "surge."


    Former CBS reporter Dan Rather tried to prove -- based on documents that
    turned out to be fraudulent -- that Bush received preferential treatment in getting into the Texas Air National Guard. Former President Bill Clinton, on the other hand, used familial political and social connections to deliberately delay issuance of his draft notice until after he began his first year at Oxford.


    Ordered to report for induction the next summer, Clinton again used
    connections -- including the approval of Arkansas Selective Service director Willard Hawkins -- to join the University of Arkansas ROTC while he attended law school, getting him a reservist deferment and nullifying his draft notice.

    But Clinton then returned to Oxford, not Arkansas. When the draft lottery placed him at the back of a very long line, Clinton wrote an explanatory
    letter telling Hawkins that he "loathed" the military. With the Vietnam War winding down and other draft requirement changes making it extremely unlikely that he would be called up, Clinton symbolically asked his draft board to drop his deferment and reclassify him "1-A."


    Palin, if she decides to run, faces a grueling series of challenges -- just like the other candidates. Except she'll not benefit from the selective standard that liberals apply when evaluating "their own."


    Larry Elder is a syndicated radio talk show host and best-selling author. His latest book, "What's Race Got to Do with It?" is available now.

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  • From TIM RICHARDSON@1:123/140 to ROSS SAUER on Sat Nov 13 12:17:00 2010
    On 11-07-10, ROSS SAUER said to TIM RICHARDSON:


    Depends on what `district' he was senator for........


    Yeah, use a juvenile playground reject "debate tactic" of bringing up a RS>mistake on my part from *YEARS* ago, in your usual desperation to divert RS>from the actual issue.


    AWwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! Did I hit a sore spot, Otto? And that ain't "form *YEARS* ago"......its not that far in the recent past.


    BTW, DeMinted ..........


    Speaking of "a juvenile playground reject "debate tactic"........" in the same post you accuse someone else of using such, you resort to it yourself!

    Physician....heal thyself!


    By the way.....while you're suckin' your toes, here's something to go into a rage over:


    Palin Loyalty Tough to Beat in a GOP Primary Race - Armstrong Williams - Townhall Conservative


    Editor's note: This column was originally published under the wrong byline -- the correct author is Armstrong Williams.


    Sarah Palin continues to be a polarizing figure after her days as McCain's presidential running mate. Irrespective, a popularized Palin has resonated within the hearts of many Americans across the nation. Palin has rocked and shocked the national political climate for the upcoming 2012 presidential elections. She has resurrected GOP candidates to victory, raised a ton of money,and continues to be a potent political force that is both feared and admired.


    Some in the GOP establishment has recently tried to marginalize her and
    suggest she's the reason they didn't capture the Senate in the recent midterm elections.


    However, most with any common sense and understanding of how she continues to impact the political landscape finds this utterly ridiculous.


    Two years ago Sarah Palin was a divisive figure capable of scaring away even those on the fringe of voting for the McCain-Palin duet. She had botched big-stage interviews and fell victim to public scandals. McCain and his staff eventually turned on her. Irrespective, somehow a popularized Palin continues to connect with many Americans and has become their symbol of a possible new renaissance across the Heartland.


    She is nothing short of a ball of fire that has creatively rallied groups,
    such as her Grizzly Moms, to stand up for conservative principles and be
    heard.


    More recently, she was able to turn election races around for many
    conservative candidates in South Carolina and. The possibilities of what she can and has accomplished in American political theatre are endless and downright heart-warming to her devout supporters.


    Does anyone now doubt Sarah Palin's increasing star power on the political stage? It's somewhat reminiscent of President Obama's. However, instead of reaching out to the esoteric intellectual left, she is reaching out to Independents/Conservative families with small-town values.


    The talk of the town now in Washington, D.C. and across the nation is whether or not she can translate this into a serious presidential contender and the GOP's nominee to face President Obama in 2012. Has her brand been seriously damage by her resignation as Governor and the fact that she has become a well paid brand name as a Fox News contributor and highly sought after speaker who reportedly has been paid ten million dollars over the past year.


    Let's take a look at the larger field of potential Republican candidates and her prospects for the 2012 GOP show down.


    I have no desire to go into details about each of the already-crowded field of prospective Republican presidential candidates now. Even though its early,
    it's quickly becoming obvious who the contenders will be. At this point in mid-November, we know a few things: Mitt Romney is definitely running. So are Mike Huckabee and Tim Pawlenty. Sen. John Thune and Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels are quietly pondering the idea, but as the decision date draws close, you can bet they'll be in the GOP mix. Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour should run, if only so we can hear his popular witticisms.


    There will be others, of course, but the one person every pundit is asking about is Sarah Palin. Will she take the plunge in the wake of a successful season for her brand of Tea Party politics or will she continue to make moose gobs of money on the speaker circuit?


    If the Republican primary process even remotely reflected how party members felt about her, Palin would not finish near the top if votes were cast today.

    A recent ABC News/Washington Post poll found that 67% of Americans say Sarah Palin is not qualified to be president. No surprise there. Yet when
    Republicans were asked the same question, fewer than half (47%) said she was indeed qualified, while 46% said she was not. Those are fairly interesting numbers, particularly among party followers.


    A quick glance at the GOP nomination process, however, coupled with the presumed crowded field, and one can easily see how Palin not only captures the nomination, but wins it fairly easily.


    Think of it as the Palin Loyalty Factor (PLF). If there are 7-9 GOP candidates headed into Iowa and New Hampshire, several will draw from the same base of voters, splitting an already small segment of voters who would look beyond Palin's charisma and appeal for something of more substance. Yet Palin's
    voter corps would, through thick and thin, still register in the 15%-20%
    range, a percentage that, while small in nominal terms, would easily form a plurality of Republican voters and send her over the top.


    The PLF would be hard to undermine, as well, because the intensity of her voters is remarkably strong. IΓÇÖll be interested to see how Gov. Palin conducts herself in the months to come, challenging the PresidentΓÇÖs agenda while holding Republicans' feet to the fire of her conservative principles.

    Many will attempt to glean glimpses into how Palin would run a presidential
    bid based on how she moves through 2011. We know one thing: Palin has a lot to prove to voters to win their support in a general matchup against Obama.


    Love her or despise her folks, Mama Grizzly is a force that you must come to grips with now and in 2012.


    Armstrong Williams


    Armstrong Williams is a widely-syndicated columnist, CEO of the Graham
    Williams Group, and hosts the Armstrong Williams Show. He is the author of Beyond Blame.





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