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    From BOB KLAHN@1:123/140 to EARL CROASMUN on Wed Feb 2 13:14:54 2011

    Not mistaken by much. Some of it was Klahn, other parts
    Lofaso.

    Roger had listed the echo in January. The listing expired
    on August 1. The new echolist came out August 5. At around
    this time, someone in a different echo commented that they
    hadn't seen Lofaso post anything in a while, and wondered
    what happened to him. Someone else mentioned that he was
    still posting in COFFEE_KLATSCH.

    After the new echolist came out, showing the listing
    deleted, Klahn started posting that the echo needed a
    moderator.

    Error on his part. Started posting *AGAIN* that the echo needed
    a moderator. I had posted that before Roger listed it, and my
    posting was why Roger listed it.

    Lofaso almost immediately listed the echo in
    his name. He gave it back to Roger nine days later, in
    response to the weight of public opinion. As I recall, he

    Note that Earl admits the echo was unlisted.

    even tried to negotiate CONDITIONS with Roger for the
    return of the echo, but when that didn't work he just gave
    in.

    How croasmun would know that is questionable.

    I don't think having a moderator affected the echo. It was
    active from January to July of that year, with Roger as
    moderator. It was the unpleasantness in August that may
    have affected the tone of the echo. Klahn and Lofaso were
    posting about "nasties coming."

    Posting again. The Nasties were the reason I recommended a
    moderator originally. Then, when someone mentioned that Lee was
    in coffee_klatch I posted the warning again. I was right, the
    Natties showed up. But they left when they discovered it was a
    no-flame echo.

    Lofaso listed the echo.
    Several people expressed their displeasure with what Klahn
    and Lofaso had said and done, sometimes in very blunt
    language. The two of them introduced nastiness into a
    previously happy echo.

    Funny, not one single person mentioned either of us as their
    reason for leaving the echo. No one had a problem before August
    because Roger did not announce that he had listed the echo, and
    he did zero moderating.

    OTOH, several people cited the Nasties as the reason they left
    the echo, and at least one cited Roger as the reason.

    If Roger had said he had listed the echo none of that would have
    happened.


    BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

    --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]
    * Origin: Doc's Place BBS Fido Since 1991 docsplace.tzo.com (1:123/140)
  • From BOB KLAHN@1:123/140 to ROY WITT on Wed Feb 2 13:37:34 2011

    ...

    The above is pretty much how I remember it. The fact that
    Klahn and Lofatso named me as the nastiness that was coming
    to the echo, in spite of my presence long before those two
    idiots showed up with their stupidity.

    He was not noticably in the echo at that time. Perhaps before.

    was that he return it to Roger. Roger has since learned not
    to let his echo listing lapse because of pirates like Klahn
    and Lofatso. It was thought at the time that Klahn
    encouraged (even showed Lofatso the ropes) to hijack the
    echo. I still believe Klahn was the culprit that was at the
    bottom of it all.

    Since I had previously stated that neither Lee nor I should be
    moderator, that's pretty stupid of Witt.

    Oh, and Lafaso already knew how to list an echo. If I wanted to
    take the echo I would have the first time around.



    BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

    --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]
    * Origin: Doc's Place BBS Fido Since 1991 docsplace.tzo.com (1:123/140)