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Speaking of wild spending, I understand that we need to spend money
on military matters in order to protect ourselves, and don't have
much of an issue with that. But I was reading an article on CNet, CW>>where the pentagon was funding a robotics company to produce robotic CW>>cheetah prototypes. That seems a bit excessive even for the "future CW>>military" thing. I can think of about a hundred better ways to spend CW>>that money, half of which would probably protect our troops withount CW>>needing to go "Terminator" on them. *rolls eyes*

If you're interested, there article is at CW>>http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20037213-1.html?part=rss&subj=new CW>>s&tag=254 7-1_3-0-20

Typical guns and butter debate. Military spending equals
less than 16% of the federal budget whereas entitlement
spending is close to 40%. The bottom line is that the
government is very inefficient and there is plenty of room
for trimming and cutting.

Entitlement is a vague term. The military includes veteran's
benefits, medical care for the seriously wounded, and nuclear
weapons research and maintenance, none of which are counted as
part of the military budget.

Guns and butter should not be a debate, we need both. Now poor
nutrition and deprivation of educational opportunity are
problems that affect the military. It all ties together in the
long run.


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Typical guns and butter debate. Military spending equals less
than 16% of the federal budget whereas entitlement spending is
close to 40%. The bottom line is that the government is very
inefficient and there is plenty of room for trimming and
cutting.

Not sure I'm familiar with the term "entitlement soending", please CW>>elaborate.

Entitlement spending. It is what the government spends for
entitlement programs. I personally believe they are
misnamed because who decides who does and doesn't deserve a
government entitlement ? And why are the entitled to it ?

Notice how his definition is circular. Entitlement spending is
anything the right wingers don't like.

It's a label they put on it to make it look like something that
has to be cut, no matter how damaging to the economy or the
nation, or the people.

They really can't explain much about it. And the greatest sence
of entitlement in this country is that held by the wealthy. The
group JB believes is entitled to everything.


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Or maybe he agrees with his base ?

Being one of those aforementioned environmentalists (not a very good CW>>one mind you, i'm kind of a hypocrite), judging from some of his CW>>mactions, I'm not entirely convinced that he does. I know the right CW>>likes to paint him a lefist idealist, but us on the far left can't CW>>stand the man. He breaks promises like any other career politician.

Obama's real qualification was... the others were so much worse.

But at the end of the day they will still pull the level
for him in the voting booth.

I never vote for any presidential candidate. I have, however,
voted against a lot of them.

Look at the list of current prospects. I don't see one of them
any better. Not even as good.



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But at the end of the day they will still pull the level for him in the
voting booth.

My mother, while nominally a Republican, has always been
proud of the fact that she votes for the man, not the
party. I reminded her that no matter how good the man
might be, if he's a Democrat he does what the party tells
him to do, or gets thrown under the bus because its their
way or the highway.

It's not nice to mislead your mother. Notice how the Blue Dog
democrats did *NOT* do what the party wanted, and they not only
did not get thrown under the bus, but got advantages?

Notice how the republicans who did not do what the party wanted
got thrown under the bus? I said before the election that the
Tea Party would be responsible for more repubican defeats than
the democrats would. So the Tea Party not only nominated whack
job candidates that could not get elected, but also ran
candidates who beat out real republicans.

The Blue Dog Democrats, the ones who were more independent, got
hit bad by the Tea Party, as did conservative democrats in
general.

Yet the democratic party supported even the Blue Dog democrats,
while the republican party demanded toe the line lock step to
get support.

I don't think she ever thought about
it like that before. Never too late to learn something,
even at 81.

Even if it's false?

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My mother, while nominally a Republican, has always been proud of the JH>>fact that she votes for the man, not the party. I reminded her that
no matter how good the man might be, if he's a Democrat he does what JH>>the party tells him to do, or gets thrown under the bus because its JH>>their way or the highway. I don't think she ever thought about it
like that before. Never too late to learn something, even at 81.

Well done. It is by no accident that the Democrat Party
has been labeled a Herd.

Only by right wingers to whom anything not on their agenda is
some kinda herd directive.

If the republicans had any level of independence at all *SOME*
republicans would have voted for Obamacare. After all, it is
just a national version of Romneycare.



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