• How to bring down Obamacare.

    From BOB KLAHN@1:123/140 to ALL on Sat Feb 26 23:50:00 2011

    I have mentioned before that I oppose the mandate. Not because I
    think there is something inherently wrong in it, but because I
    don't see how they are going to come up with an insurance policy
    all the uninsured can afford.

    Ok, they say they will subsidize the poor... but...

    You right wingers have rejoiced at every attempt to bring down
    Obamacare by finding the mandate unconstitutional. Big mistake.
    If you want to bring down Obamacare, demand that the mandate
    stay in there.

    I was just looking at median income stats for another purpose,
    when I realized how they apply to insurance. Nearly half the
    working single mothers in this country earned less than $30K/yr
    as of 2008. How much can a single mother spare to pay for
    insurance with an income of less than $30K/yr. I will say,
    typically, nothing at all.

    Half the working single mothers in this country will have to
    receive 100% subsidized medical insurance for the mandate to
    work.

    Probably much more, since even above $30K/yr you have quite a
    ways to go before they can afford any significant amount.

    If you remove the mandate Obamacare will still go into effect.
    It will be more expensive without the mandate, but still better
    than nothing. Over the years, I predict a very few years, they
    will work it out, and bring back the mandate in one form or
    another, and find a way to make it work. You will be stuck with
    Obamacare as designed, but improved, and it will work and be so
    popular you will never get rid of it.

    If you leave the mandate in, it will go into effect in 2014,
    onlyh they will have to confront the low income problem head on.
    I don't believe anyone in congress has any idea how bad things
    are for single mothers in this country, but they will learn in a
    hurry.

    So, they will have to either find some miracle fix, or back off.

    As I see it, that is the only real hope you have to stop
    Obamacare. Your fixation on the courts is a fantasy, a loser
    fantasy.

    Why do I offer this solution? I said before, I oppose the
    mandate because so many can't afford it, can't pay the bills no
    matter how you work it.

    So, I want them to confront the reality of low income health
    care right up front. Have it out, and I believe they can make it
    work.

    In this case, we both get our chance. If they can't make it
    work, you get rid of Obamacare. If they can make it work, we get
    national health care that works. The real thing.

    One will turn out to be right, but this is the only way I see to
    force the issue, and find out which will work right from the
    beginning.

    Maybe they will have to really consider a plan based on the
    existing national health care systems, most of which are based
    on private insurance company. Remember, even the Swiss system,
    the most expensive national health care system in the
    industrialized world at 12% of GDP, compared to the US system
    at 20% of GDP projected soon, will save this country $1 trillion
    a year.

    That's enough to solve most of our economic problems with ease.



    BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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