...

Revisiting this.

Who the fuck is he kidding? Islam *IS* terrorism!

I was listening to a BBC report on the bombing of a Christian
church in Iraq. As the family members and other mourners
gathered they were joined by both Sunni and Shia Muslims,
including religious leaders. The Christians are not part of any
dispute in Iraq, as such they are not legitimate targets in any
way. Under Islam that attack on the Christians was Harrare.
Which is beyond being unlawful, to being reprehensible.

There was a bombing of a Coptic christian church in Egypt also.
That was reported on by Al Jazeera. Here is an excerpt.
Links in the story.

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Thousands of Egyptian Muslims Show Up as "Human Shields" to Defend
Coptic Christians From Terorism

Zaid Jilani | Saturday 08 January 2011

On New YearΓÇÖs Day, a devastating terrorist bombing at a Coptic
church in Egypt killed 21 people and injured 79 others. Although
the identity of the culprits was not known, it was assumed that
they were Muslim extremists, intent on targeting those they saw
as heretics. Religious tensions immediately rose in the
country, and angry Copts stormed streets, battled with police,
and even vandalized a nearby mosque. The riots and heightened
tensions <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7uSIXUPsM4> between
the Muslim and Coptic communities was likely what the terrorists
wanted ΓÇö to divide the Egyptian community and create sectarian
strife between different religious groups.

Yet by Coptic Christmas Eve, which took place Thursday night in
Egypt, things had changed completely. As Egyptian Copts attended
mass at churches across the country, ΓÇ£thousandsΓÇ¥ of Muslims,
including ΓÇ£the two sons of President Hosni Mubarak,ΓÇ¥ joined
them, acting as ΓÇ£human shieldsΓÇ¥ to protect from terrorist
attacks by extremists. The Muslims organized under the slogan
ΓÇ£We either live together, or we die together,ΓÇ¥
<http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/3365.aspx> inspired by Mohamed
El-Sawy, an Egyptian artist:
...
*ΓÇ£This is not about us and them,ΓÇ¥ said Dalia Mustafa, a
student who attended mass at Virgin Mary Church on Maraashly.
ΓÇ£We are one. This was an attack on Egypt as a whole, and I am
standing with the Copts because the only way things will change
in this country is if we come together.ΓÇ¥*
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Just look at Boner and the CBO, regarding the deficit and the

Health Care

Has anyone else noticed this half wit's (along with much of the rest
of braindead liberalism) to cast everything in sexual terms. Boner?

I prefer the old meaning of "Pulling a boner."

Common meanings that don't involve sex seem to be hard for some
on the right to fathom.

Really screwing up.
Fits Behner and his cronies perfectly.

Doesn't this idiot also refer to people as tea baggers. More

They called themselves that.

Yes, they did. And now that we are seeing the results of their
hate spewing I am going back to calling them that.

...

abnormal thinking. A normal mind doesn't contrive such odd ideas.

Now just who was it who has the abnormal fixation on Clinton's
sexuality? Hmmm... can't seem to remember...

...

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The shooter is a white male, in his 20's.
No sign of any religious nuttery yet, might be some political nuttery.

You want to see what motivates Jared Loughner? Go to You
Tube and search for 'Classitup10' and read his drug induced
rantings.

The fact of a stream of attacks on democrats and media liberals
with no corresponding stream of attacks on conservatives
indicate conservative influence on the attacks.

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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"BOB KLAHN -> ROSS SAUER" <1:123/140> wrote in
news:124$CONTROVERSIAL@JamNNTPd:

Just look at Boner and the CBO, regarding the deficit and the

Health Care

Has anyone else noticed this half wit's (along with much of the

rest SH>> of braindead liberalism) to cast everything in sexual
terms. Boner?

I prefer the old meaning of "Pulling a boner."

Common meanings that don't involve sex seem to be hard for some
on the right to fathom.

I've lost count of the number of "moral guardians" who turn out to be in
the closet.

Really screwing up.
Fits Behner and his cronies perfectly.

Doesn't this idiot also refer to people as tea baggers. More

They called themselves that.

Yes, they did. And now that we are seeing the results of their
hate spewing I am going back to calling them that.

There's a LTTE about how Ron Johnson (He beat Russ Feingold) is breaking
the promises he made to all the Teabaggers.

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"BOB KLAHN -> ROSS SAUER" <1:123/140> wrote in
news:125$CONTROVERSIAL@JamNNTPd:

The shooter is a white male, in his 20's.
No sign of any religious nuttery yet, might be some political

nuttery.

You want to see what motivates Jared Loughner? Go to You
Tube and search for 'Classitup10' and read his drug induced
rantings.

The fact of a stream of attacks on democrats and media liberals
with no corresponding stream of attacks on conservatives
indicate conservative influence on the attacks.

Although he does seem to have a few right-wing influences, Loughner is
simply dangerously insane.

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On 1/12/2011 21:03, Ross Sauer -> BOB KLAHN wrote:

Although he does seem to have a few right-wing influences, Loughner is simply dangerously insane.

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Name that few right-wing influences, with evidence that Loughner was influenced by them.

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Shariah Adoption Laws: Incompatible with American Law and
Society

Posted by Clare M. Lopez Jan 3rd 2011 at 6:05 am in Middle
East, human rights, sharia

| Comments (30)Yesterday's Washington Post's feature story,
"Muslim orphans caught between Islam and the West;" about
Muslim orphans who cannot find adoptive homes because of

...

The reason is shariah (Islamic law), which states in
unequivocal terms, "Adoption is unlawful in Islam when it
means giving a child one's own name; a share of one's
estate division, and so on." [Umdat al-Salik (Reliance of
the Traveller), Book K, "Trade,"¥ section k28.4 (pg. 450).]

...

Islamonline.net has a fatwa online that explains the real cause
and the truth of Islamic adoption. You cannot deny the child's
parents. You can do all that is done in western adoption, except
that you must allow the child his ancestry and parentage. A
child can inherit from the family that raises him, that is
allowed. He will also inherit from his biological family if
provided for under law. That is automatic.

IOW, you could adopt a Muslim child, only you have to do it by
Islamic rules, which means he keeps his family history, and he
inherits from his biological family. You can then also leave him
an inheritance in your will. It would be the same as a permenant
guardianship in the West.

The estate division in the Reliance of the Traveler reference
applies to the automatic inheritance which then cuts him off
from his ancestry.

...

See......if this were a Catholic law being talked about
here, or a Mormon or Evangelical law, You'd be hopping from
one foot to the other while typing curses at everyone in
Fido you despise, blaming us for it.

The laws against Sharia in the US will rebound back to Catholic
and Protestant and Jewish laws. The constitution is clear, you
can't make laws banning the free exercise of religion. And you
can't favor one religion over another. So, to outlaw Sharia in
the US you will have to ban consideration of any religious law.

Jewish courts, that already exist in this country, will be
banned.

Hospitals run by pro-life faiths will have to perform abortions.

Adoption agencies run by faiths that won't place children with
gays will be forced to.

Or shut down.

I expect you will remain completely uncaring about this.
I saw a statement from some Islamic Imam in Egypt (I think)
which said:

"Don't blame Islam....blame terrorism."

Who the fuck is he kidding? Islam *IS* terrorism!

Wahabism is terrorism. When you can say that you have something
to say.

...

offense deemed antithetical to Islam, orphaned children
forbidden to be adopted into a home setting, and all
government laws must strictly adhere to Islamic law.

Except that it's considered a blessing under Islam to take an
orphan into your home. The Quran specifically says it. The
Islamic community is responsible for seeing to it an orphan has
a home. The only rule the right wingers ignored is, the child's
ancestry, as known, must be kept. If his ancestry is not known
then he is considered of the brethern of the faith. IOW, a
Muslim whose ancestry is unknown. All the rest is the same.

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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...

The fact of a stream of attacks on democrats and media liberals
with no corresponding stream of attacks on conservatives
indicate conservative influence on the attacks.

Although he does seem to have a few right-wing influences,
Loughner is simply dangerously insane.

His insanity alone does not explain his targeting a particular
person. The fact that the stream of domestic terror attacks have
been aimed at democrats, never republicans, is evidence it was
more than just insanity.

There is no evidence it was just insanity that drove him to that
particular place.

The hate speech is wrong on it's own merits, the decades long
stream of domestic terror is evidence of more wrong than just
that.

...

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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Although he does seem to have a few right-wing influences, Loughner is
simply dangerously insane.

Name that few right-wing influences, with evidence that
Loughner was influenced by them.

Show the list of republicans attacked in all these *domestic
terror* incidents.



BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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