OK, I'm a masochist. I have a Synchronet BBS with the built-in QWK door. I
have MultiMail working well, but miss BlueWave.

I have a license for the BlueWave door and reader from my dialup Maximus BBS days.

Is there some way to make BlueWave read QWK packets and work around any Y2K issues?

Cheers,

--kW

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Hello, Kurt.

Friday January 21 2011 at 10:21, you wrote to All:

Is there some way to make BlueWave read QWK packets and work around
any Y2K issues?

Unfortunately, Blue Wave is "system specific" meaning it will only work with the BBS the version you have is designed for (such as Maximus, Telegard, et cetera). Blue Wave won't read/write QWK packets from the BBS as it is designed
to directly pull/post the mail to/from the message base used by each BBS software using that software's message base structures.

Since you're running Synchronet, good luck. There's hardly any third-party utilities for Synchronet and AFAIK, there is no BW-style door for it.

You might just have to write this one yourself or get someone else to do it. I
know that MBSE and Ezycom BBS software can read/write Blue Wave packets natively.

Later,
Sean

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Quoting Kurt Weiske to All on 01-21-11 10:29 <=-

OK, I'm a masochist. I have a Synchronet BBS with the built-in QWK
door. I have MultiMail working well, but miss BlueWave.
I have a license for the BlueWave door and reader from my dialup
Maximus BBS days.
Is there some way to make BlueWave read QWK packets and work around
any Y2K issues?

There isn't a BW door for Synchronet... But the BW *reader* can read
and reply to QWK packets. There is a Y2K fix for the reader, as well as
for some of the doors. Look for BW-Y2K.ZIP, that has the fixes, plus a
how-to for fixing other doors... :)

ttyl neb

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Hello, NANCY.

Saturday January 22 2011 at 12:43, you wrote to KURT WEISKE:

There isn't a BW door for Synchronet... But the BW *reader* can read
and reply to QWK packets. There is a Y2K fix for the reader, as well
as for some of the doors. Look for BW-Y2K.ZIP, that has the fixes,
plus a how-to for fixing other doors... :)

Take a look (next time you're on the board) at the BBS.BLUEWAVE filearea.

Later,
Sean

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Quoting Sean Dennis to Nancy Backus on 01-22-11 17:06 <=-

Saturday January 22 2011 at 12:43, you wrote to KURT WEISKE:

There isn't a BW door for Synchronet... But the BW *reader* can read
and reply to QWK packets. There is a Y2K fix for the reader, as well
as for some of the doors. Look for BW-Y2K.ZIP, that has the fixes,
plus a how-to for fixing other doors... :)

Take a look (next time you're on the board) at the BBS.BLUEWAVE
filearea.

I see you also have Richard's file... as well as the specific one he did
for your ProBoard... :) I know that various places do have the fixes,
but I don't really keep total track of who has what... I figure that
giving the filename lets people know what they are looking for... ;)

ttyl neb

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Hello, NANCY.

Sunday January 23 2011 at 19:18, you wrote to me:

I see you also have Richard's file... as well as the specific one he
did for your ProBoard... :) I know that various places do have the fixes, but I don't really keep total track of who has what... I
figure that giving the filename lets people know what they are looking for... ;)

Yeah, I tend to be a file packrat. :) I do try to keep important files (such as the modified BW/PB EXE your wizard did for me; even though I don't run PB anymore I still appreciate he took the time to do that) around on the filebase.

Later,
Sean

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Quoting Sean Dennis to Nancy Backus on 01-24-11 09:08 <=-

I see you also have Richard's file... as well as the specific one he
did for your ProBoard... :) I know that various places do have the

Yeah, I tend to be a file packrat. :) I do try to keep important
files (such as the modified BW/PB EXE your wizard did for me; even
though I don't run PB anymore I still appreciate he took the time to do that) around on the filebase.

And one never knows who might need or want it, down the line... ;)
Didn't Gaylen get it from you, to use on his board...?

... Life can be a grind. Use it to sharpen your character.

Just as long as it doesn't make one too ascerbic... <G>

ttyl neb

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Hello, NANCY.

Wednesday January 26 2011 at 21:51, you wrote to me:

And one never knows who might need or want it, down the line... ;)
Didn't Gaylen get it from you, to use on his board...?

Yep, he did.

Just as long as it doesn't make one too ascerbic... <G>

I can C that happening.

(Yes, that was a horrible pun.)

Later,
Sean

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OK, I'm a masochist. I have a Synchronet BBS with the built-in QWK
door. I have MultiMail working well, but miss BlueWave.

I have a license for the BlueWave door and reader from my dialup
Maximus BBS days.

Is there some way to make BlueWave read QWK packets and work around
any Y2K issues?

if you have the proper binary for your BBS, yes, there may very well be... my system contains a patch and easily followed instructions to correct the y2k bug
in the C library used in the door and the reader... they are contained in my BLUEWAVE file area... i've loosely tested the patch by manually patching the RA
version of the door... everything was found as the patch scripts and readme state and the manual hex editing of the binary was no problem... TTBOMK, everything works as desired and i've not seen any mention of problems from those who use my system's offline capabilities who choose to use the BW door (if i still have it online)...

)\/(ark


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Quoting Mark Lewis to Kurt Weiske on 01-29-11 19:38 <=-

they are contained in my BLUEWAVE file area... i've loosely tested the patch by manually patching the RA version of the door... everything was found as the patch scripts and readme state and the manual hex editing
of the binary was no problem... TTBOMK, everything works as desired and i've not seen any mention of problems from those who use my system's offline capabilities who choose to use the BW door (if i still have it online)...

Um.... I never saw the real BW door on the BBS, just OLMS... I've
looked periodically for a command to let me get to the BW door, but
never seen it available... I'll be glad to check it out from the user
point of view... <G>

ttyl neb

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they are contained in my BLUEWAVE file area... i've loosely tested the patch by manually patching the RA version of the door... everything was found as the patch scripts and readme state and the manual hex editing
of the binary was no problem... TTBOMK, everything works as desired and i've not seen any mention of problems from those who use my system's offline capabilities who choose to use the BW door (if i still have it online)...

Um.... I never saw the real BW door on the BBS, just OLMS... I've
looked periodically for a command to let me get to the BW door, but
never seen it available... I'll be glad to check it out from the
user point of view... <G>

i might have removed it by the time you became a regular user... but then again, as i think about it, i may also have removed it due to my running a beta
of the BBS software and the door supporting an older version of the data structures... i don't recall if i had written or otherwise used a glue program to convert the structures back and forth between what the door needs and what the BBS actually uses... yeah, it has been quite a while ago ;)

)\/(ark


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Quoting Mark Lewis to Nancy Backus on 02-02-11 21:00 <=-

patch by manually patching the RA version of the door... everything was
found as the patch scripts and readme state and the manual hex editing
of the binary was no problem... TTBOMK, everything works as desired and

So you worked with hubby's patch... :)

i've not seen any mention of problems from those who use my system's
offline capabilities who choose to use the BW door (if i still have it
online)...

Um.... I never saw the real BW door on the BBS, just OLMS... I've
looked periodically for a command to let me get to the BW door, but
never seen it available...

i might have removed it by the time you became a regular user... but
then again, as i think about it, i may also have removed it due to my running a beta of the BBS software and the door supporting an older version of the data structures... i don't recall if i had written or otherwise used a glue program to convert the structures back and forth between what the door needs and what the BBS actually uses... yeah, it
has been quite a while ago ;)

Well.. for a time line of sorts... the date on the latest version of the
patch (as on my computer) is 2006. That IS a while ago. :) But I
think I may have been lurking on the bbs, just reading messages to me or something similar, until you offered the offline option at all... I
don't remember ever seeing the true BW door available... although I
might be misremembering... :) Maybe the problem was* a mismatch
between versions of softwares...

ttyl neb

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Quoting Mark Lewis to Nancy Backus on 02-02-11 21:00 <=-

patch by manually patching the RA version of the door... everything was
found as the patch scripts and readme state and the manual hex editing
of the binary was no problem... TTBOMK, everything works as desired and

So you worked with hubby's patch... :)

yes, to a point... that point being to manually apply it to the RemoteAccess version of the door... everything appeared to be where it needed to be and the hex replacements went with no problems... IIRC, preliminary testing was fine, too... but i believe, as i wrote earlier, that i had to take it back offline because the data structures for the info passed during the shell were slightly different and different enough to through certain other date related items off... i don't believe that i stated it that clearly, though...

[trim]

i might have removed it by the time you became a regular user... but
then again, as i think about it, i may also have removed it due to my running a beta of the BBS software and the door supporting an older version of the data structures... i don't recall if i had written or otherwise used a glue program to convert the structures back and forth between what the door needs and what the BBS actually uses... yeah, it
has been quite a while ago ;)

Well.. for a time line of sorts... the date on the latest version
of the patch (as on my computer) is 2006. That IS a while ago. :)

yup and i'd have to go digging to see if i still have the patched exe here and see if its date was even altered by my patching... it may not have been since i
did it manually...

But I think I may have been lurking on the bbs, just reading
messages to me or something similar, until you offered the offline
option at all... I don't remember ever seeing the true BW door available... although I might be misremembering... :) Maybe the
problem was* a mismatch between versions of softwares...

yep... i'm running a beta of the BBS software that uses a couple of extra sections in the fields for full date format storage... the original places in the fields for dates are still maintained but they are not full 4 digit capable
whereas the new ones are... so the problem comes up with software that only updates the old date fields and if they have a y2k problem in that area... the BBS software updates both sets of fields but i do not recall if it reads the new field and updates the old field on import... if couldn't do this if the external software doesn't use the new fields, anyway so there's still a bit of a sticky wicket there... the only real answer is a glue program that will create the old binary dropfile format on exit to the external door and then fix
up the new format on return... i just don't recall if i actually did this glue program or if i got started and then distracted or what :/

)\/(ark


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Quoting mark lewis to NANCY BACKUS on 06 Feb 11 19:50:01 <=-

yep... i'm running a beta of the BBS software that uses a couple of
extra sections in the fields for full date format storage... the
original places in the fields for dates are still maintained but they
are not full 4 digit capable whereas the new ones are... so the
problem comes up with software that only updates the old date fields
and if they have a y2k problem in that area... the BBS software
updates both sets of fields but i do not recall if it reads the new
field and updates the old field on import... if couldn't do this if
the external software doesn't use the new fields, anyway so there's
still a bit of a sticky wicket there... the only real answer is a glue

Ok... I think I understand enough of that... ;)

program that will create the old binary dropfile format on exit to the external door and then fix up the new format on return... i just don't recall if i actually did this glue program or if i got started and
then distracted or what :/

Well, if you do follow through, and put it up on the bbs, let me know,
and I'll be glad to test it out... :)

ttyl neb

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