To: T.J. Mcmillen
Re: Re: renegade bbs
By: T.J. Mcmillen to Jas Hud on Sun Oct 30 2022 12:14 am

Hey are you going around telling people you BOUGHT renegade?

The guy that runs bbsing.com told me you told him to remove the link
he put up to renegadebbs.net and replace it with YOUR site. and then he s you claim to be the OWNER of renegade and you bought it.

Why are you trying to start shit? Renegade was GIVEN to me in 2003.

You're the one going around pulling bullshit.

You are not the owner of renegade. Cott Lang is. nobody else.
You didnt buy renegade. Just because renegade passed through a string of losers and you're the last one it doesn't mean you are the rightful owner.

So stop lying to people.

Anybody that knows anything about renegade knows that except for the y2k fixes by Jeff Herrings, subsequent changes to renegade have been detrimental and overall disliked by renegade bbs sysops.

These include changes to datafile formats, changes to the meny editor system, andchanges to the file base system. Ridiculous additions like the string system which is a convoluted mess.

Anyways, stop lying to people.
You think you can rewrite history by fucking with wikipedia and telling lies to everyone, but it won't work because I'm here.
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On 30 Oct 22 01:54:09, Jas Hud said the following to T.J. Mcmillen:

Anybody that knows anything about renegade knows that except for the y2k fi by Jeff Herrings, subsequent changes to renegade have been detrimental and overall disliked by renegade bbs sysops.

I was the only RG Sysop on the planet who was vocal about this years ago
and it actually looks like you've just copy-n-pasted what I wrote. This
circles us back to "Who is Jas Hud" and the symphony of crickets chirping.

You weren't even a blip on anyone's radar until you showed your arrogance
and unsurprising incompetence with Mystic, Synchronet, Fsx, Dovenet... pretty much everywhere you farted we could smell it but you denied it and the more you were trolled, the more you vanished until it was convenient to resurface.

Fact is... I've known TJ/Exodus for a lonnnnnng time and he "has" contributed more than you, "is" the official developer/maintainer.

If you don't like the new releases, don't use them. Might also be a good idea not to make his stuff available for download from your website.

Nick

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You're the one going around pulling bullshit.

How, by you unzipping and rezipping Renegade and saying you made a better archive?

You are not the owner of renegade. Cott Lang is. nobody else.

I was talking to Cott on Linkedin the other day, and he had no problem with me and Renegade. I don't see why you are so butt hurt.

You didnt buy renegade. Just because renegade passed through a string of

Wow, look folks, he got one right. I DIDN'T buy Renegade. Because I was the one asshole that after everyone else GAVE UP on it, went and looked to see if I could get Patrick to add a toggles menu to the logon, and he gave me the code to keep it alive. Cut 3 years later when Jeff had a hissy fit like a little girl and released the y2k source because he was mad Renegade was being worked on. Yeah, you know what happened.

Anybody that knows anything about renegade knows that except for the y2k f by Jeff Herrings, subsequent changes to renegade have been detrimental and overall disliked by renegade bbs sysops.

Nick was the only one (until you tried to jump on his band wagon about this, and he called you an asshole). He has what he wanted, and he keeps to himself with it. I continue on. No one else voiced any opinions as such over the last 20 years to me. Most of the utils you are crying over is not INTERNAL to Renegade and editable (like 99% of the strings), so you can make it look/act however you want. But you never were the one that wanted to take the easy way ... always trying to play on other people's work with making a "cool batch file" or "rezipping an archive because you think it's better to have doors installed" ...

You don't even post from your OWN board. If you love Rob that much, stay on Dovenet and leave the rest of the world out of this.

You think you can rewrite history by fucking with wikipedia and telling li to everyone, but it won't work because I'm here.

I don't see what's a lie on wikipedia. Just facts from 2003 until now.

to everyone, but it won't work because I'm here.

Most wish you weren't. But I like you .... a lot.

... Even after fusion, confusion remains.

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I was the only RG Sysop on the planet who was vocal about this years ago and it actually looks like you've just copy-n-pasted what I wrote. This circles us back to "Who is Jas Hud" and the symphony of crickets chirping.

See what you did ... 15 years later ... causing me Jas Hud problems! <G> ahhahahah

Fact is... I've known TJ/Exodus for a lonnnnnng time and he "has" contribu more than you, "is" the official developer/maintainer.

Thanks D'Bridge man. :) But he also thinks that software is shit too. So I guess we'll just be "shit" together.

If you don't like the new releases, don't use them. Might also be a good i not to make his stuff available for download from your website.

AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHH

... Politicians aren't born, they are excreted. (Cicero)

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me and Renegade. I don't see why you are so butt hurt.

bullshit. he will not talk to anybody about renegade.
I'm sure he wouldn't care if a monkey was running renegade, though. He was glad to let it go.

He's looking for the RGMAINT code for me right now. Funny how things change when years pass and you're not an asshole to someone.

I'd post a screenshot weblink, but I don't do that.

... Heisenburg slept here... or did he?

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On 30 Oct 22 22:37:31, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

I am always saying this shit. just because you're ignorant about me it mea nothing.

I've got a rule, taught to me by the likes of lowercase Mark Lewis, Roy Witt, the happy Belgian, etc... anyone who obsessively quotes back and spins every written line of text has clearly lost the argument.

And anyone who talks a lot of shit but cannot or will not share links to significant code or contributions we can all download and see for ourselves, is really just "full of shit".

But please keep entertaining us with your vast experience. You're hilarious.

Keep on spinning!

Nick

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On 31 Oct 22 05:57:09, Jas Hud said the following to T.J. Mcmillen:

what i dont like is you being a slime ball and telling people 'hey remove t site link and put mine up instead.'

I also told some site owners and interested Sysops who emailed me directly
that you are utterly full of shit and not to link to any of your nonsense.

My local dollar store here has a selection of fidget-spinners. As I understand you have serious emotional problems I will contribute to our hobby once again by mailing you one, at my expense, to help placate your fragile feelings.

I will seriously send you a spinner at priority international postage with a tracking number posted on fido-z1.darkrealms.ca (your mailing address politely redacted) so everyone can see that I'm serious in helping you cope with the stress of being told that you are totally and utterly full of shit.

Please let me know your mailing address either via Netmail (you do know how to send one right?) or on an account on some board we've never heard of before.

I'm dead serious. I will mail you a fidget-spinner. My treat.

Nick

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what i dont like is you being a slime ball and telling people 'hey remove site link and put mine up instead.'

Well, then don't tout off that it's the offical rg home page when you don't have even the LATEST version on it to download.

... Virus located. Delete c:\window\*.*? y/n

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I'm dead serious. I will mail you a fidget-spinner. My treat.

I want one! But can it have a picture of Jas on it telling GitHub to remove my account like it tried a month ago?

... I've lost my sense of direction; which way to the bar?

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On 31 Oct 22 16:37:54, T.J. Mcmillen said the following to Nick Andre:

I want one! But can it have a picture of Jas on it telling GitHub to remo my account like it tried a month ago?

They spin pretty fast, better watch out!

Nick

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On 31 Oct 22 18:22:43, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

i have another rule. 99% of the time i read one of your sentences and then mash the enter key.

But professor didn't you mean you hit "R" to reply, "/Q" to quote, type some nonsense and "/S" to save?

Nick

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On 31 Oct 22 18:23:45, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

bullshit. like everyone in bbsing used my sites. even my enemies and i let them. you're just ignorant.

You're just full of shit.

Nick

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On 31 Oct 22 18:26:06, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

They spin pretty fast, better watch out!

those things were popular like 3 years ago.
how many did you get stuck up your ass.

Why are you interested in my ass?

Nick

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I want one! But can it have a picture of Jas on it telling GitHub to rem my account like it tried a month ago?

They spin pretty fast, better watch out!

My eye.

... Christmas is coming, the geese are getting *very* worried

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it is the official renegade page.

Explain how ... I want to hear this story.

... Immortality is no excuse for not flossing.

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i'm the reason why renegade's source got finally got leaked. i was bitching zeronet or dorenet and jeff went on my bbs and we talked about the shit for hour.

For what reason?

That's not what github says.

We used Lee's Git because we didn't want you running your mouth about it and make some stupid ass zip file from it. That's the whole reason I didn't add it to my Git account. Just easier to compare files on Git than how we were up/downloading to the BBS with source.

It's there, but it's not meant for everyone to just come fork it like all the assholes did with 1.19 and did nothing with it. But there you go making your asshole comments about it and posting it on your web page ....

I hear searchlight.com and intermail.com are coming up to be renewed ... why don't you go grab those too and make those cool 1993 netscape compatible webpages.

I've never been trolled. and I never vanished. i'm literally always here. don't disappear and come back like everyone.

What are you talking about? You're being TROLLED NOW ....

I am always saying this shit. just because you're ignorant about me it mea

For no reason but to bitch ... you don't like it, there's the y2k code,
take it and start over.

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i have another rule. 99% of the time i read one of your sentences and then mash the enter key.

But professor didn't you mean you hit "R" to reply, "/Q" to quote, type som nonsense and "/S" to save?

I was thinking the same thing. HA!

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On 31 Oct 22 20:17:43, T.J. Mcmillen said the following to Jas Hud:

it is the official renegade page.

Explain how ... I want to hear this story.

You should "just know" because Professor said so.

Nick

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On 31 Oct 22 20:13, T.J. Mcmillen said the following to Nick Andre:

But professor didn't you mean you hit "R" to reply, "/Q" to quote, type som nonsense and "/S" to save?

I was thinking the same thing. HA!

I love reading Professor's posts about Renegade from a non-Renegade system.

Nick

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But professor didn't you mean you hit "R" to reply, "/Q" to quote, type so nonsense and "/S" to save?

I was thinking the same thing. HA!

I love reading Professor's posts about Renegade from a non-Renegade system

Did we pay for this "class?" ....

... Why me?

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We used Lee's Git because we didn't want you running your mouth about it an make some stupid ass zip file from it. That's the whole reason I didn't add it to my Git account. Just easier to compare files on Git than how we were up/downloading to the BBS with source.

bullshit

Yeah, you know, you know everything.

... I should have known, you'd bid me farewell

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On 01 Nov 22 00:21:43, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

you should know. you're the expert on being full of shit.

I have a very easy challenge for you Professor.

Just go grab yourself a node number, join Fido and immediately call for a snap election to replace me as ZC1.

I will agree to an election process so you have a fair chance to prove to everyone that you really are deserving of respect and acknowledgement. ZC elections are often documented in BBS'ing history at least at the nodelist level... so perfect opportunity for you to right some wrongs.

Th election will be ran as it usually does; with every Sysop in this zone
given a chance to vote. An independant/neutral vote counter is decided upon
and all votes anonymous with everyone casting ballots for their candidate with a random preferred passphrase. The counter receives the votes by Netmail and ack's these by posting just that passphrase in the Z1C echo.

Its a very good system of checks 'n balances and theres some Q&A periods and opportunities to contest any votes before a final result gets posted.

The pressure is all on me because I run shit software and am incompetent, so
a Professor like you should win by a landslide. I will politely turn over all my code, software, configs, everything and vanish from BBS'ing forever.

When you are listed at 1:1/0, you have control over the Zone root-segment, so you can finally correct that annoying "unofficial" 1:1/105 entry.

Do you accept my easy challenge? Or shall I grab popcorn when I hear why not?

Nick

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On 11/1/2022 01:29, Jas Hud wrote:

To: T.J. Mcmillen
Re: Re: renegade bbs
By: T.J. Mcmillen to Jas Hud on Mon Oct 31 2022 08:17 pm

> JH> it is the official renegade page.
>
> Explain how ... I want to hear this story.
>

Because it's the strongest. nobody else can keep it up like i can.
only strong survive.

Eventually you'll disappear again and I'll still be here.

It's happened several times already; it's the nature of the beast.
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...and STDs
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Hello Nick!

01 Nov 22 10:42, you wrote to Jas Hud:

On 01 Nov 22 00:21:43, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

you should know. you're the expert on being full of shit.

I have a very easy challenge for you Professor.

Just go grab yourself a node number, join Fido and immediately call
for a snap election to replace me as ZC1.

I will agree to an election process so you have a fair chance to prove
to everyone that you really are deserving of respect and
acknowledgement. ZC elections are often documented in BBS'ing history
at least at the nodelist level... so perfect opportunity for you to
right some wrongs.
Nick

I endorse Nick for another term.

Matt


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On 11/1/2022 19:01, Jas Hud wrote:

To: Glenn Rossi
Re: Re: renegade bbs
By: Glenn Rossi to Jas Hud on Tue Nov 01 2022 04:58 pm

>
> ...and STDs
> --- SBBSecho 3.10-Win32

fuck off, spam bait.
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IΓÇÖm laughing at the superior intellect.
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On 09 Nov 22 20:01:33, Jas Hud said the following to Matt Munson:

I have a very easy challenge for you Professor.

Sorry nick. i have a rule. I don't accept challenges.

We all understand...

Nick

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On 10 Nov 22 11:34:14, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

if you dont want to be ZC just pass it off to another guy.

Reading comprehension is another challenge you won't accept.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
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if you dont want to be ZC just pass it off to another guy.

Reading comprehension is another challenge you won't accept.

HA!

... Never go to a doctor whose office plants have died.

--- Renegade v1.31/Exp
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right some wrongs.
Nick

nobody cares.

Aparently you do.

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Nick Andre wrote to Jas Hud <=-

On 10 Nov 22 11:34:14, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

if you dont want to be ZC just pass it off to another guy.

Reading comprehension is another challenge you won't accept.

I think he accepts it, but just continuously FAILS at it. ;-)



... Freedom isn't free.
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Jas Hud wrote to T.J. Mcmillen <=-

nobody cares.

Aparently you do.

no, i do not want to be zone 1 zc
it has never been my life's ambition.

What *IS* your life's ambition?



... Your proctologist called. He found your head.
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To: T.J. Mcmillen
Re: Re: The Semware Editor
By: T.J. Mcmillen to Sean Dennis on Tue Aug 23 2022 07:18 pm

Hey are you going around telling people you BOUGHT renegade?

The guy that runs bbsing.com told me you told him to remove the link
he put up to renegadebbs.net and replace it with YOUR site. and then he says you claim to be the OWNER of renegade and you bought it.
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Hey are you going around telling people you BOUGHT renegade?

The guy that runs bbsing.com told me you told him to remove the link
he put up to renegadebbs.net and replace it with YOUR site. and then he s you claim to be the OWNER of renegade and you bought it.

Why are you trying to start shit? Renegade was GIVEN to me in 2003.

... Hell hath no fury like vested interest masquerading as moral principle.

--- Renegade v1.31/Exp
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To: Glenn Rossi
Re: Re: renegade bbs
By: Glenn Rossi to Jas Hud on Wed Nov 02 2022 05:56 pm

On 11/1/2022 19:01, Jas Hud wrote:

To: Glenn Rossi
Re: Re: renegade bbs
By: Glenn Rossi to Jas Hud on Tue Nov 01 2022 04:58 pm

>
> ...and STDs
> --- SBBSecho 3.10-Win32

fuck off, spam bait.
--- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux

IΓÇÖm laughing at the superior intellect.
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hey you are including some high ascii in your reply. https://i.imgur.com/kg9mE4P.png
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To: Matt Munson
Re: renegade bbs
By: Matt Munson to Nick Andre on Mon Nov 07 2022 08:52 pm

you should know. you're the expert on being full of shit.

I have a very easy challenge for you Professor.

Sorry nick. i have a rule. I don't accept challenges.

I will agree to an election process so you have a fair chance to prove to everyone that you really are deserving of respect and acknowledgement. ZC elections are often documented in BBS'ing history at least at the nodelist level... so perfect opportunity for you to right some wrongs.
Nick

nobody cares.

I endorse Nick for another term.

Matt

that's because you're a retard, matt.
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To: Nick Andre
Re: Re: renegade bbs
By: Nick Andre to Jas Hud on Thu Nov 10 2022 12:32 am

On 09 Nov 22 20:01:33, Jas Hud said the following to Matt Munson:

I have a very easy challenge for you Professor.

Sorry nick. i have a rule. I don't accept challenges.

We all understand...

Nick

if you dont want to be ZC just pass it off to another guy.
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To: T.J. Mcmillen
Re: Re: renegade bbs
By: T.J. Mcmillen to Jas Hud on Thu Nov 10 2022 04:56 pm

right some wrongs.
Nick

nobody cares.

Aparently you do.

no, i do not want to be zone 1 zc
it has never been my life's ambition.
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To: T.J. Mcmillen
Re: Re: renegade bbs
By: T.J. Mcmillen to Jas Hud on Tue Nov 01 2022 06:02 am

We used Lee's Git because we didn't want you running your mouth about

it
an make some stupid ass zip file from it. That's the whole reason I didn't add it to my Git account. Just easier to compare files on Git than how we were up/downloading to the BBS with source.

bullshit

Yeah, you know, you know everything.

... I should have known, you'd bid me farewell

well i certainly HOPE you are not that paranoid. plus your git account story doesn't make any sense.
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To: Glenn Rossi
Re: Re: renegade bbs
By: Glenn Rossi to Jas Hud on Tue Nov 01 2022 04:58 pm

...and STDs
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fuck off, spam bait.
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