• charset kludge

    From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.12 to All on Fri Feb 25 18:03:33 2022
    Hi,

    Is there a way to make BBBS render the (recommended) CHRS kludge, instead of CHARSET?

    Carlos
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Carlos Navarro on Mon Feb 28 21:01:32 2022
    Is there a way to make BBBS render the (recommended) CHRS kludge, instead of CHARSET?

    I have wondered about that but I have no answer for your question.

    If you netmail Kim Heino at 2:222/2 or email b@bbbs.net he would have a better idea when or if that change can be made.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.12 to Alan Ianson on Thu Mar 3 16:23:26 2022
    I have wondered about that but I have no answer for your question.

    If you netmail Kim Heino at 2:222/2 or email b@bbbs.net he would
    have a better idea when or if that change can be made.

    Will do. Thank you, Al.

    Carlos
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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234 to Carlos Navarro on Tue Mar 8 22:15:07 2022
    28 Feb 2022 21:01, Alan Ianson wrote to me:

    Is there a way to make BBBS render the (recommended) CHRS kludge,
    instead of CHARSET?

    I have wondered about that but I have no answer for your question.

    If you netmail Kim Heino at 2:222/2 or email b@bbbs.net he would have
    a better idea when or if that change can be made.

    I netmailed Kim and he replied fast! Next release will use CHRS.
    +1!

    Carlos

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Carlos Navarro on Tue Mar 8 13:53:00 2022
    If you netmail Kim Heino at 2:222/2 or email b@bbbs.net he would have
    a better idea when or if that change can be made.

    I netmailed Kim and he replied fast! Next release will use CHRS.
    +1!

    That is good news. I also netmailed Kim about this along with UTF-8 and CRAM-MD5 support. All are being added although some may take time to implement.

    I'll be watching the bbbs.net website for updates.. :)

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234.12 to Alan Ianson on Wed Mar 9 18:10:25 2022
    Hello, Alan Ianson.
    On 8/3/22 13:53 you wrote:

    I netmailed Kim and he replied fast! Next release will use CHRS.
    +1!
    That is good news. I also netmailed Kim about this along with
    UTF-8 and CRAM-MD5 support. All are being added although some may
    take time to implement.

    UTF-8? That's even better news!

    Carlos
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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Alan Ianson on Mon Mar 28 19:12:24 2022
    Hi Alan,

    If you netmail Kim Heino at 2:222/2 or email b@bbbs.net he would have
    a better idea when or if that change can be made.

    I netmailed Kim and he replied fast! Next release will use CHRS.
    +1!

    That is good news. I also netmailed Kim about this along with UTF-8 and
    CRAM-MD5 support. All are being added although some may take time to implement
    I'll be watching the bbbs.net website for updates.. :)

    It is neat :)

    Take care,
    Janis

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Janis Kracht on Mon Mar 28 16:53:16 2022
    That is good news. I also netmailed Kim about this along with UTF-8 and
    CRAM-MD5 support. All are being added although some may take time to
    implement. I'll be watching the bbbs.net website for updates.. :)

    It is neat :)

    Yes, Toy-6 includes cram-md5 support and is working well for me. You could ask Kim about that.. :)

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From Enric Lleal Serra@2:343/107.1 to Alan Ianson on Mon Aug 21 12:49:19 2023
    ¡Hola Alan!

    El Lunes 28 Marzo 2022 a las 16:53, Alan Ianson escribi≤ a Janis Kracht:

    Yes, Toy-6 includes cram-md5 support and is working well for me. You
    could ask Kim about that.. :)

    There is something about the file downloading via http methods instead ftp, through the web interface?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Enric Lleal Serra on Mon Aug 21 18:28:56 2023
    Yes, Toy-6 includes cram-md5 support and is working well for me. You
    could ask Kim about that.. :)

    There is something about the file downloading via http methods instead ftp, through the web interface?

    I don't think so although that would be good to have today since most browsers don't support FTP anymore.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From Enric Lleal Serra@2:343/107.1 to Alan Ianson on Tue Aug 22 07:51:54 2023
    ¡Hola Alan!

    El Lunes 21 Agosto 2023 a las 18:28, Alan Ianson escribi≤ a Enric Lleal Serra:

    There is something about the file downloading via http methods
    instead ftp, through the web interface?
    I don't think so although that would be good to have today since most browsers don't support FTP anymore.

    If you don't know, it means that it's not yet implemented in Toy-6. We will wait until Toy-7.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Enric Lleal Serra on Tue Aug 22 05:48:08 2023
    I don't think so although that would be good to have today since most
    browsers don't support FTP anymore.

    If you don't know, it means that it's not yet implemented in Toy-6. We will wait until Toy-7.

    It would be better to make a feature request than to wait for Toy-7.

    We don't know what Toy-7 has in store, but if you ask for a feature it may get implimented.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From Enric Lleal Serra@2:343/107.1 to Alan Ianson on Wed Aug 23 08:10:19 2023
    ¡Hola Alan!

    El Martes 22 Agosto 2023 a las 05:48, Alan Ianson escribi≤ a Enric Lleal Serra:

    We don't know what Toy-7 has in store, but if you ask for a feature it
    may get implimented.

    Since Janis is gone, you seem to be the liaison with Kim. :-D How do you think is better to raise to him the feature requests? Direct netmail? Direct email? This echo?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Enric Lleal Serra on Wed Aug 23 10:41:16 2023
    We don't know what Toy-7 has in store, but if you ask for a feature it
    may get implimented.

    Since Janis is gone, you seem to be the liaison with Kim.

    I don't have any special contact with Kim.

    Janis is not gone, I'm sure she is lurking.. :)

    How do you think is better to raise to him the feature requests? Direct netmail?

    That is the way I have always contacted Kim.

    Direct email?

    I think b@bbbs.net will work.

    This echo?

    That should work too, but a direct netmail or email I think would be best to make sure he sees it in a timely way.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Enric Lleal Serra on Thu Aug 24 08:50:36 2023
    Hola Enric!

    El Martes 22 Agosto 2023 a las 05:48, Alan Ianson escribi≤ a Enric Lleal Serra

    We don't know what Toy-7 has in store, but if you ask for a feature it
    may get implimented.

    Since Janis is gone,

    I am NOT gone, Enric :) :)

    I did resign Fidonet for about two months because I was a bit burned out... but I returned as 1:261/38 as soon as I was able :)

    You should contact Kim via e-mail, at b@bbbs.net, he will probably respond to you via email.

    Take care,
    Janis

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Enric Lleal Serra@2:343/107.1 to Alan Ianson on Thu Aug 24 13:52:58 2023
    ¡Hola Alan!

    El MiΘrcoles 23 Agosto 2023 a las 10:41, Alan Ianson escribi≤ a Enric Lleal Serra:

    Janis is not gone, I'm sure she is lurking.. :)

    Oops! I thought it as I read about her bye-bye in the SysOps echomail areas a few months ago... However, it's good to read she is alive.


    How do you think is better to raise to him the feature requests?
    Direct netmail?

    I think b@bbbs.net will work.

    I will try it.

    (a lot of minutes after)

    Three feature requests sent:

    - File download via HTTPS.
    - FTP to FTPS.
    - CRAM in BinkP.

    -
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  • From Enric Lleal@2:343/107 to Janis Kracht on Thu Aug 24 16:25:44 2023
    Hey, Janis!

    I am NOT gone, Enric :) :)

    I'm happy to see you here... :-)


    I did resign Fidonet for about two months because I was a bit burned out... bu
    I returned as 1:261/38 as soon as I was able :)

    I lost your trail in some moment and I heard about your departure... It's hard to follow the international echoes sometimes... Sorry.


    You should contact Kim via e-mail, at b@bbbs.net, he will probably respond to you via email.

    Done. Thanks...


    A reveure!!
    Enric

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
    * Origin: Eye Of The Beholder BBS - The Fidonet's Corsair (2:343/107)
  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Enric Lleal on Thu Aug 24 15:14:14 2023
    Hey, Janis!
    Hi Enric :) :)

    I am NOT gone, Enric :) :)
    I'm happy to see you here... :-)


    Thank you, glad to be here :)


    I did resign Fidonet for about two months because I was a bit burned out... >> I returned as 1:261/38 as soon as I was able :)

    I lost your trail in some moment and I heard about your departure... It's hard
    to follow the international echoes sometimes... Sorry.

    I know.. and I think things got confused when Dave Drum thought my system was down, but it was not - it was probably problems with my ISP... who knows.

    You should contact Kim via e-mail, at b@bbbs.net, he will probably respond to >> you via email.

    Done. Thanks...

    Sounds good :)

    Take care,
    Janis

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Enric Lleal Serra@2:343/107.1 to Janis Kracht on Sat Aug 26 11:21:23 2023
    ¡Hola Janis!

    El Jueves 24 Agosto 2023 a las 15:14, Janis Kracht escribi≤ a Enric Lleal:

    I know.. and I think things got confused when Dave Drum thought my
    system was down, but it was not - it was probably problems with my
    ISP... who knows.

    Ashes to ashes... what it's important is we are alive and kicking[1] ;-)


    Done. Thanks...
    Sounds good :)

    Very good. He has resolved the CRAM feature request and he's testing the http download is his own node. I still don't know if I'll have to sell my soul to Kim in return. :-DDD


    [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljIQo1OHkTI

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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Enric Lleal Serra on Sat Aug 26 19:55:44 2023
    Hola Enric!

    I know.. and I think things got confused when Dave Drum thought my
    system was down, but it was not - it was probably problems with my
    ISP... who knows.

    Ashes to ashes... what it's important is we are alive and kicking[1] ;-)

    Yes, that is true :) :)

    Very good. He has resolved the CRAM feature request and he's testing the http download is his own node.

    That is so great to hear!

    I still don't know if I'll have to sell my soul to
    Kim in return. :-DDD

    hahaha... I think you will be ok :)

    [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljIQo1OHkTI

    Is that you or some friends playing there?

    Take care,
    Janis

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Kim Heino@2:222/2 to Enric Lleal Serra on Sun Apr 21 23:35:18 2024
    I still don't know if I'll have to sell my soul to Kim in return. :-DDD

    Yes. Didn't you read the BBBS license agreement?

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-7
    * Origin: * BCG-Box, On The Air Since 11th February 1987! * (2:222/2)
  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Kim Heino on Thu Apr 25 20:41:04 2024
    I still don't know if I'll have to sell my soul to Kim in return. :-DDD

    Yes. Didn't you read the BBBS license agreement?

    Lol :)

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: <<Prism bbs (1:261/38)
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    Subject: compile error
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    To: digital man
    Compiling ansiterm.cpp
    In file included from sbbs.h:315,
    from ansiterm.cpp:22:
    sftp.h:47:6: error: variable or field `sftp_handle_data' declared void
    47 | void sftp_handle_data(sbbs_t *sbbs, char *inbuf, int len);
    | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    sftp.h:47:23: error: `sbbs_t' was not declared in this scope; did you mean `sub_t'?
    47 | void sftp_handle_data(sbbs_t *sbbs, char *inbuf, int len);
    | ^~~~~~
    | sub_t
    sftp.h:47:31: error: `sbbs' was not declared in this scope
    47 | void sftp_handle_data(sbbs_t *sbbs, char *inbuf, int len);
    | ^~~~
    sftp.h:47:37: error: expected primary-expression before `char'
    47 | void sftp_handle_data(sbbs_t *sbbs, char *inbuf, int len);
    | ^~~~
    sftp.h:47:50: error: expected primary-expression before `int'
    47 | void sftp_handle_data(sbbs_t *sbbs, char *inbuf, int len);
    | ^~~
    sbbs.h:471:9: error: `sftps_state_t' does not name a type
    471 | sftps_state_t sftp_state = nullptr;
    | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~
    make: *** [/home/bbs/repo/src/sbbs3/../build/Common.gmake:546: gcc.linux.x64.obj.release-mt/ansiterm.o] Error 1

    The frustration here is that I have set up a test system so I can make sure I can get a clean compile before trying this on the production system. So far, this strategy has not worked. I don't know what it is... the move from CVS to git, the move from 3.19 to 3.20, or something else... but getting a clean compile never used to be this difficult.

    Thank goodness I take nightly backups.

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    Subject: compile error
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    To: Dumas Walker
    Re: compile error
    By: Dumas Walker to digital man on Wed May 01 2024 09:13 am

    Compiling ansiterm.cpp
    In file included from sbbs.h:315,
    from ansiterm.cpp:22:
    sftp.h:47:6: error: variable or field `sftp_handle_data' declared void
    47 | void sftp_handle_data(sbbs_t *sbbs, char *inbuf, int len);
    | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    sftp.h:47:23: error: `sbbs_t' was not declared in this scope; did you mean `sub_t'?
    47 | void sftp_handle_data(sbbs_t *sbbs, char *inbuf, int len);
    | ^~~~~~
    | sub_t
    sftp.h:47:31: error: `sbbs' was not declared in this scope
    47 | void sftp_handle_data(sbbs_t *sbbs, char *inbuf, int len);
    | ^~~~
    sftp.h:47:37: error: expected primary-expression before `char'
    47 | void sftp_handle_data(sbbs_t *sbbs, char *inbuf, int len);
    | ^~~~
    sftp.h:47:50: error: expected primary-expression before `int'
    47 | void sftp_handle_data(sbbs_t *sbbs, char *inbuf, int len);
    | ^~~
    sbbs.h:471:9: error: `sftps_state_t' does not name a type
    471 | sftps_state_t sftp_state = nullptr;
    | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~
    make: *** [/home/bbs/repo/src/sbbs3/../build/Common.gmake:546: gcc.linux.x64.obj.release-mt/ansiterm.o] Error 1

    The frustration here is that I have set up a test system so I can make sure I can get a clean compile before trying this on the production system. So far, this strategy has not worked. I don't know what it is... the move from CVS to git, the move from 3.19 to 3.20, or something else... but getting a clean compile never used to be this difficult.

    The code is built daily on a bunch of different platforms including multiple Linux distros, so the content in Git is good and should build. Try cloning the repo into a new directory and try again?
    --
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    To: Digital Man
    Hello Digital,

    On Wed, 01 May 2024 13:51:42 -0700, you wrote to Dumas Walker:

    The code is built daily on a bunch of different platforms including multiple Linux distros, so the content in Git is good and should build. Try cloning the repo into a new directory and try again?

    If it's his production system, a 'make clean' may help as well.

    Regards,
    Nick

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