• Almost missed observation

    From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to All on Wed Jun 22 22:04:36 2016
    Unbeknownst to me, but knownst to my son-in-law, the ISS passed over pour city yesterday. I was surprised I wasn't notified by NASA, but they have been silent toward me lately. Anyway, it winked at me as it passed overhead.


    Regards,

    Roger

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Roger Nelson on Thu Jun 23 18:11:31 2016
    Hi! Roger,

    On 06/22/2016 10:04 PM, you wrote:

    Unbeknownst to me, but knownst to my son-in-law, the ISS passed over
    pour city yesterday. I was surprised I wasn't notified by NASA, but
    they have been silent toward me lately. Anyway, it winked at me as
    it passed overhead.

    That's a nice thought to think that. They were probably merely tossing out the
    garbage. NASA may dress it up as some spectacular EVA but that's probably all it was. ;)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Paul Quinn on Thu Jun 23 06:41:45 2016
    On Thu Jun-23-2016 18:11, Paul Quinn (3:640/1384) wrote to Roger Nelson:

    Hi,

    On 06/22/2016 10:04 PM, you wrote:

    Unbeknownst to me, but knownst to my son-in-law, the ISS passed over
    pour city yesterday. I was surprised I wasn't notified by NASA, but
    they have been silent toward me lately. Anyway, it winked at me as
    it passed overhead.

    That's a nice thought to think that. They were probably merely
    tossing out the garbage. NASA may dress it up as some spectacular
    EVA but that's probably all it was. ;)

    Well, if they were just tossing ou the garbage, it wouldn't make it this far. (-: I haven't received an article from them since May 31. Too busy signing up
    people for a 1-way trip to Mars, I suspect.

    ...At the end of the day, it gets dark.


    Regards,

    Roger
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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Roger Nelson on Thu Jun 23 22:27:05 2016
    Hi! Roger,

    On 23 Jun 16 06:41, you wrote to me:

    NASA may dress it up as some spectacular EVA but that's probably all
    it was. ;)

    I haven't received an article from them since May 31. Too busy signing
    up people for a 1-way trip to Mars, I suspect.

    That's Mars One you're thinking of. And it's the 'plan H' version of what they
    originally envisaged.

    NASA wants to do a return mission, using the 'battlestar galactica' methodology. Which requires a humoungous effort & budget.

    IAC, it would be nice to see some actual news here. Not that I don't appreciate your personal contributions, of course. ;)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Paul Quinn on Thu Jun 23 10:01:20 2016
    On Thu Jun-23-2016 22:27, Paul Quinn (3:640/1384) wrote to Roger Nelson:

    Hi,

    On 23 Jun 16 06:41, you wrote to me:

    I haven't received an article from them since May 31. Too busy signing
    up people for a 1-way trip to Mars, I suspect.

    That's Mars One you're thinking of. And it's the 'plan H' version
    of what they originally envisaged.

    NASA wants to do a return mission, using the 'battlestar galactica' methodology. Which requires a humoungous effort & budget.

    What do they propose powering it with?

    IAC, it would be nice to see some actual news here. Not that I
    don't appreciate your personal contributions, of course. ;)

    Thanks. I try, but I can only post what they send me. At the rate they are going, I may have to post Brain Teasers in COFFEE_KLATSCH. (-:


    Regards,

    Roger
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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Roger Nelson on Fri Jun 24 17:14:26 2016
    Hi! Roger,

    On 06/23/2016 10:01 AM, you wrote:

    NASA wants to do a return mission, using the 'battlestar galactica'
    methodology. Which requires a humoungous effort & budget.

    What do they propose powering it with?

    The naming is referencing the scale of operations. Both the Mare One ships and
    NASA's will use standard chemical rockets.

    Mars One wanted originally to use existing (or upgraded) Apollo-type hardware.
    They couldn't get their stuff together, financially-speaking.

    Otherwise they had a viable plan using cheap existing hardware, and a timetable
    of roughly 2013-2015/2016 for their first missions. Yep, their first unmanned ship should have landed one or two years ago, and ought to have been manufacturing oxygen, water & fuel for the return mission this last year. BTW,
    2016 sees Mars at its closest to Earth for the last decade.

    Mars One is based on a proposal for an original Mars Direct mission. Check out any EwwToob vids about Robert Zubrin (The Case For Mars or anything that mentions "Mars direct", or maybe "Mars Underground"). (Totally unrelated but if
    you get a chance, check out his "Transorbital Railroad" video. It's a blast!)

    Conversely, NASA wants to take everything (food, oxygen, water & fuel). Also, the crew number is essentially doubled. Plus they plan a lot of EVA around another purpose-built station in LEO, to build their 'mother ship'. Once in orbit around Mars there will be a lot of EVA and shuttle/rendezvous events getting to & from the surface, with a reduced time on planet schedule (compared
    with Mars Direct). Meanwhile NASA's timetable is... "oh, maybe after 2025 we might get something going".

    I haven't checked recently, but Mars One is already in the early stages of garnering industry to provide hardware, while their first batch of cosmonaut crews are in-training. All the basics have been worked out with a lot of R&D (on how to produce fuel, water & air, and, living & working in the various crew
    cabins & vehicles) having been done by the Mars Direct/Mars Society brain trust. Since it's a private operation, they need more financing. Their plan is to have a colony established on Mars _by_ 2026-ish.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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