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Re: Weather
By: Roger Nelson to All on Wed Jan 20 2016 17:32:23
A 9TH PLANET BEYOND PLUTO? Today, planetary scientists from Caltech announced intriguing new evidence for a Neptune-sized planet
orbiting the sun beyond Pluto. The planet itself has not yet been
seen, but its gravitational influence on other objects in the
outer solar system may lead to its discovery. Visit
Spaceweather.com for more information.
Get ready for the Niburu crowd to pop up. ;)
Get ready for the Niburu crowd to pop up. ;)
Not allowed.
Re: Astronomy (was Re: Weather)
By: Roger Nelson to Damon A. Getsman on Thu Jan 21 2016 06:41:05
Not allowed.
Wait wut?
Isn't this like Odyssea Fringe Research or something like that?
I thought it was a house for all of the tinfoil theories.
Not allowed.
Wait wut?
Isn't this like Odyssea Fringe Research or something like that? I
thought it was a house for all of the tinfoil theories.
No, it isn't. Where did you get that idea?
No, it isn't. Where did you get that idea?
most likely from the BACKBONE.NA... the BACKBONE.NA file is created from the initial request to carry the echo on the backbone... the BACKBONE.NA is not, TTBOMK, updated automatically from the echolist... the current BACKBONE.NA file, 2015-Oct-29, contains the line
BAMA Odyssey Fringe Science Research Echo
the question now is how to get it updated in the BACKBONE.NA file and on all the BBSes that carry the area that are using the long title as the area's name...
BAMA Odyssey Fringe Science Research Echo
My BBS uses this description for the area, and Bama for the short description. If the description needs updating I'll gladly do it, I
just need to know what would be better.
Re: Astronomy (was Re: Weather)
By: Roger Nelson to Damon A. Getsman on Sat Jan 23 2016 07:08:19
No, it isn't. Where did you get that idea?
I don't know, but one of the documents I was looking at had
things a little bit messed up, I suspect. I've had this echo set
up on my BBS that way for some time. What's the proper long title
for the echo, if I might ask? Thanks for letting me know, too.
I don't know who does the updating of BACKBONE.NA, but it is wrong.
someone on the various backbones does the updating but that
updating is apparently only adding and removing of echo tags and
the long title from the elist... any other updates apparently
require specific attention being given to requests from the
moderator(s) to the various backbones that carry their area(s)...
I routinely post the updates in the echo when I submit them and the
robot replies. To wit:
yes but that doesn't mean that the backbones monitor those...
indeed, it is pretty visible that they do not ;)
as noted in my quote below, the change occured between 2008-Aug-31
and the next release of the echolist (2008-Sep-30)...
This is an echo where I post Space Weather and artricles I receive
from NASA and nothing more. Note the absense of the word "Fringe". I
got away from that stuff years ago.
i fully understand :)
[trim]
since at least 1997-Sep-01 up to 2008-Aug-31 the long title for the
BAMA area was
It should not have appeared that way in the ELIST.
see my note above... it changed *in the echolist* in Sep 2008 but
not every where else...
the question now is how to get it updated in the BACKBONE.NA file and
on all the BBSes that carry the area that are using the long title as
the area's name...
That's a good question. I should have the answer in a couple of days.
that'll take care of at least one .NA distributor but likely won't
do anything for all the BBSes already carry the area with the old
title... that being because they likely require manual updating...
i need to go manually update my fastecho config on my main system
but i've already adjusted some of the other BBSes hosted here... my
main system uses the echotags for the area names so it is only
fastecho that needs updating so that the various .NA files it
exports have the proper description as it now stands ;)
[time passes]
ok, that update has now been done here and my fastecho is exporting
its .NA files with the new description for the BAMA echotag ;)
No, it isn't. Where did you get that idea?
No, it isn't. Where did you get that idea?
I don't know, but one of the documents I was looking at had things a little bit messed up, I suspect. I've had this echo set up on my BBS
that way for some time. What's the proper long title for the echo, if
I might ask? Thanks for letting me know, too.
23 Jan 16 07:08, you wrote to Damon A. Getsman:
Not allowed.
Wait wut?
Isn't this like Odyssea Fringe Research or something like that? I
thought it was a house for all of the tinfoil theories.
No, it isn't. Where did you get that idea?
most likely from the BACKBONE.NA... the BACKBONE.NA file is created
from the initial request to carry the echo on the backbone... the BACKBONE.NA is not, TTBOMK, updated automatically from the
echolist... the current BACKBONE.NA file, 2015-Oct-29, contains the
line
BAMA Odyssey Fringe Science Research Echo
numerous systems use the BACKBONE.NA style files to create all
their message areas from... they import their .NA files and the descriptive names, which are taken from the echolist's long title
for each area, become the areas' names... this really should be
changed a bit so that the echotags are the areas' names and the
long titles are used as the areas' descriptions... but that won't
help the problem of an echo changing its long title in the echolist
and the various .NA files not being updated or even that BBSes can
some how update their message areas' descriptions automatically
when the long title changes...
since at least 1997-Sep-01 up to 2008-Aug-31 the long title for the
BAMA area was
Odyssey Fringe Science Research Echo
in the current echolist, the long title for the area is
Science Research Echo
the question now is how to get it updated in the BACKBONE.NA file
and on all the BBSes that carry the area that are using the long
title as the area's name...
apparently it is now "Science Research Echo" so you should be able to
edit your message area line in scfg and remove the two words "Odyssey Fringe"...
apparently it is now "Science Research Echo" so you should be able to edit your message area line in scfg and remove the two words "Odyssey Fringe"...
FWIW: we also leave out "Echo" on the end of many... it just looks goofy to see "blah blah echo" all over the place...
Not allowed.
Wait wut?
Isn't this like Odyssea Fringe Research or something like that? I
thought it was a house for all of the tinfoil theories.
No, it isn't. Where did you get that idea?
most likely from the BACKBONE.NA... the BACKBONE.NA file is created
from the initial request to carry the echo on the backbone... the
BACKBONE.NA is not, TTBOMK, updated automatically from the
echolist... the current BACKBONE.NA file, 2015-Oct-29, contains the
line
I see. However, my main interest in updating the area listing is in
the ELIST. That's where the latest info is.
I don't know who does the updating of BACKBONE.NA, but it is wrong.
I routinely post the updates in the echo when I submit them and the
robot replies. To wit:
The above is an old one, but this hasn't been what you quoted below for many, many years.
This is an echo where I post Space Weather and artricles I receive
from NASA and nothing more. Note the absense of the word "Fringe". I
got away from that stuff years ago.
since at least 1997-Sep-01 up to 2008-Aug-31 the long title for the
BAMA area was
It should not have appeared that way in the ELIST.
the question now is how to get it updated in the BACKBONE.NA file and
on all the BBSes that carry the area that are using the long title as
the area's name...
That's a good question. I should have the answer in a couple of days.
apparently it is now "Science Research Echo" so you should be able to
edit your message area line in scfg and remove the two words "Odyssey
Fringe"...
Changing it here now. I had the full (incorrect) name listed here also.
On Sat Jan-23-2016 19:39, mark lewis (1:3634/12.73) wrote to Roger
Nelson:
I inquired about it this morning and should have an answer sometime
today.
I routinely post the updates in the echo when I submit them and the
robot replies. To wit:
BAMA Odyssey Fringe Science Research Echo
My BBS uses this description for the area, and Bama for the short
description. If the description needs updating I'll gladly do it, I
just need to know what would be better.
That info is dated. All current descriptions about echo areas are in
the Echolist. I had no idea the BACKBONE.NA was different, since I
never used its descriptions.
No, it isn't. Where did you get that idea?
I don't know, but one of the documents I was looking at had things a
little bit messed up, I suspect. I've had this echo set up on my
BBS that way for some time. What's the proper long title for the
echo, if I might ask? Thanks for letting me know, too.
The long title is BAMA
and no, I don't know why it was given that name. I took it over from
a guy no longer in Fidonet.
The area description is Science Research Echo.
Thank you all for the heads-up.
24 Jan 16 08:41, you wrote to Alan Ianson:
many folks, myself included, configured our mail tosser to import
the .NA files to update the long titles for automatically added
areas... the short titles aka echotags already exist in the configurations... i did the import thing for years before i
switched to using the echotags to display to my users... that
mainly because many long descriptions were longer than the 40
characters allowed by my software... i figured that the echotag was
much better than umpteen areas all saying something like
24 Jan 16 08:46, you wrote to Damon A. Getsman:
No, it isn't. Where did you get that idea?
I don't know, but one of the documents I was looking at had things a
little bit messed up, I suspect. I've had this echo set up on my
BBS that way for some time. What's the proper long title for the
echo, if I might ask? Thanks for letting me know, too.
The long title is BAMA
that's the short title, aka echotag ;)
and no, I don't know why it was given that name. I took it over from
a guy no longer in Fidonet.
i remember that...
The area description is Science Research Echo.
that's the long title, AFAIK... the description in the echolist is
those lines that start with DESC which most mail tosser and/or bbs software never imported ;)
Thank you all for the heads-up.
you're welcome from these parts...
/EOT