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Roger Nelson wrote to Roy Witt:
It looks different than the Lincoln.
One is inline, the other is a V...
Not what I meant. Accessing the spark plugs is what I was referring
to.
Shouldn't be too hard to do...
While you're at it, you might want to get a black light and find
your freon leak...
I don't believe there is one. The MB is the car we put the Red Angel
in. However, I'll check it to be sure.
So, you're just now getting around to re-charging the system, why?
In today's cars, if there is no freon in the system, the compressor
is locked out ot the system by the CPU and won't engage the clutch
at all. This affects the cooling fans and when they come on, the
engine runs hotter and that also affects emissions...
If I don't stay active on a daily basis, an old hip injury from
karate' class when I was 35, gives me joint pain ... that got to be
so bad that I couldn't get comfortable, no matter what I tried.
Heat pads helped, but I couldn't get into a waterbed with that. I
finally began taking about Glucosamine Chondroitin on a daily
basis. Today I can finally get some sleep without the pain getting
to me.
I never took any martial arts classes. I figured the training I had
in football would be enough, but as the body gets older, it more and
more refuses to do what the mind tells it to do. (-:
I never played on any high school or college football teams. Sand
lot, yeah, but didn't have time for a 'season' of football. Too
busy with cars and the girls. While everybody was at the game, I
was in the back seat of my 1940 Ford with Suzie Smith...
So, you're just now getting around to re-charging the system, why?
In today's cars, if there is no freon in the system, the compressor is RW>locked out ot the system by the CPU and won't engage the clutch at all. RW>This affects the cooling fans and when they come on, the engine runs RW>hotter and that also affects emissions...
So, you're just now getting around to re-charging the system, why?
In today's cars, if there is no freon in the system, the compressor
is locked out ot the system by the CPU and won't engage the clutch
at all. This affects the cooling fans and when they come on, the
engine runs hotter and that also affects emissions...
So you are tellng us that IF the computer system sees an undercharges
AC system the radiator fan is NO longer controled by the engine block temperature sensor??
I do not believe that.
It looks different than the Lincoln.
One is inline, the other is a V...
Not what I meant. Accessing the spark plugs is what I was referring
to.
Shouldn't be too hard to do...
That sounds familiar. (-:
While you're at it, you might want to get a black light and find
your freon leak...
I don't believe there is one. The MB is the car we put the Red
Angel in. However, I'll check it to be sure.
So, you're just now getting around to re-charging the system, why?
It hasn't been charged or checked since last April.
In today's cars, if there is no freon in the system, the compressor
is locked out ot the system by the CPU and won't engage the clutch
at all. This affects the cooling fans and when they come on, the
engine runs hotter and that also affects emissions...
If I don't stay active on a daily basis, an old hip injury from
karate' class when I was 35, gives me joint pain ... that got to be
so bad that I couldn't get comfortable, no matter what I tried.
Heat pads helped, but I couldn't get into a waterbed with that. I
finally began taking about Glucosamine Chondroitin on a daily
basis. Today I can finally get some sleep without the pain getting
to me.
I never took any martial arts classes. I figured the training I had
in football would be enough, but as the body gets older, it more and
more refuses to do what the mind tells it to do. (-:
I never played on any high school or college football teams. Sand
lot, yeah, but didn't have time for a 'season' of football. Too
busy with cars and the girls. While everybody was at the game, I
was in the back seat of my 1940 Ford with Suzie Smith...
I liked the front seat of my '57 Bel Air. Way more room.
Shouldn't be too hard to do...
That sounds familiar. (-:
It isn't a Blue Flame 6cyl Chevy, it's a 94 MB with all kinds of
covers over everything. i.e. Corvettes have coil covers, but if you
remove the covers, the engine doesn't look any different than what
is in a Z28. The covers are there to 'beautify' the engine for the
novice engine looker.
While you're at it, you might want to get a black light and find
your freon leak...
I don't believe there is one. The MB is the car we put the Red
Angel in. However, I'll check it to be sure.
So, you're just now getting around to re-charging the system, why?
It hasn't been charged or checked since last April.
Does the AC work?
I never took any martial arts classes. I figured the training I had
in football would be enough, but as the body gets older, it more and
more refuses to do what the mind tells it to do. (-:
I never played on any high school or college football teams. Sand
lot, yeah, but didn't have time for a 'season' of football. Too
busy with cars and the girls. While everybody was at the game, I
was in the back seat of my 1940 Ford with Suzie Smith...
I liked the front seat of my '57 Bel Air. Way more room.
I was a high school student in that year. Not having the income to
buy a new Chevy, I opted for a $50 V8 Ford. I suppose that had I
followed my father's advice, I would have bought a fat body (41-48)
Chevy (big back seats), but then, those weren't up to my
expectations of a real car at the time...
So, you're just now getting around to re-charging the system, why?
In today's cars, if there is no freon in the system, the compressor RW>> is locked out ot the system by the CPU and won't engage the clutch RW>> at all. This affects the cooling fans and when they come on, the
engine runs hotter and that also affects emissions...
that IF the computer system sees an undercharges RW> TW> AC system theSo you are tellng us
That is my experience, yes.
I do not believe that.
Believe what you will. When the compressor on my Z28 leaked all of the RW>freon and the compressor oil, the engine over heated because the radiator RW>fans were not engaging. Checking the engine coolant tank, it was full. The RW>engine cooled down after the vehicle began to move, but when in traffic, RW>the fans didn't engage when the temp gauge got to where they usually do RW>engage. Refilling the AC system, the fans began to work as usual.
Dunno why they build them that way, but the above is fact and not fiction.
Looking at the schematic, today's AC systems are tied to the PCM through RW>sensors on the AC refrigerant pressure sensor and evaporator tempurature RW>sensor. The PCM also controls the AC compressor relay (clutch) and an AC RW>malfunction indicator on the dash. Tracing beyond the PCM is impossible, RW>unless you have a schematic of the PCM's inner circuits. Not even factory RW>manuals have that feature. Aftermarket manuals won't even go into the AC RW>system, as the system can be dangerous for the ordinary mechanic to work RW>on. They refer you to a certified AC technician.
If you have a better explanation, I'm all ears.
So, you're just now getting around to re-charging the system,
why?
In today's cars, if there is no freon in the system, the
compressor is locked out ot the system by the CPU and won't
engage the clutch at all. This affects the cooling fans and
when they come on, the engine runs hotter and that also affects RW>>> emissions...
IT lowers the emmissions, In fact California requites a higher
engine temperture to LOWER the enissions
So you are tellng us
that IF the computer system sees an undercharges RW> TW> AC system
the radiator fan is NO longer controled by the engine block RW> TW> temperature sensor??
That is my experience, yes.
I do not believe that.
Believe what you will. When the compressor on my Z28 leaked all of
the freon and the compressor oil, the engine over heated because the
radiator fans were not engaging. Checking the engine coolant tank,
it was full. The engine cooled down after the vehicle began to move,
but when in traffic, the fans didn't engage when the temp gauge got
to where they usually do engage. Refilling the AC system, the fans
began to work as usual.
Dunno why they build them that way, but the above is fact and not
fiction.
Looking at the schematic, today's AC systems are tied to the PCM
through sensors on the AC refrigerant pressure sensor and evaporator
tempurature sensor. The PCM also controls the AC compressor relay
(clutch) and an AC malfunction indicator on the dash. Tracing beyond
the PCM is impossible, unless you have a schematic of the PCM's
inner circuits. Not even factory manuals have that feature.
Aftermarket manuals won't even go into the AC system, as the system
can be dangerous for the ordinary mechanic to work on. They refer
you to a certified AC technician.
If you have a better explanation, I'm all ears.
Well the Engine Block switch and the AC fan control are two seperate circuits and should not interfere with each other.
NOT being a Chevrolet Fan I got this from www.camaroz28.com on
coolant fan not runing if AC looses charge
****
There are 7 things to consider:
(the first 4 are ruled out because you said that the fan worked when
the A/C was working.) Item 5; either the coolant temperature isn't reaching 238°F, or faulty wiring to the relay. Item 6; ECM fan driver
may be bad. unforunately the ECM will need replacing. Using an
adjustable temp switch (for winter/summer) would save you the trouble
of buying a new ECM, but you'll lose the control the ECM has for
different conditions.
It isn't a Blue Flame 6cyl Chevy, it's a 94 MB with all kinds of
covers over everything. i.e. Corvettes have coil covers, but if you
remove the covers, the engine doesn't look any different than what
is in a Z28. The covers are there to 'beautify' the engine for the
novice engine looker.
Hey! (-:
While you're at it, you might want to get a black light and find
your freon leak...
I don't believe there is one. The MB is the car we put the Red
Angel in. However, I'll check it to be sure.
So, you're just now getting around to re-charging the system, why?
It hasn't been charged or checked since last April.
Does the AC work?
It will as soon as I recharge it.
I never took any martial arts classes. I figured the training I
had in football would be enough, but as the body gets older, it
more and more refuses to do what the mind tells it to do. (-:
I never played on any high school or college football teams. Sand
lot, yeah, but didn't have time for a 'season' of football. Too
busy with cars and the girls. While everybody was at the game, I
was in the back seat of my 1940 Ford with Suzie Smith...
I liked the front seat of my '57 Bel Air. Way more room.
I was a high school student in that year. Not having the income to
buy a new Chevy, I opted for a $50 V8 Ford. I suppose that had I
followed my father's advice, I would have bought a fat body (41-48)
Chevy (big back seats), but then, those weren't up to my
expectations of a real car at the time...
That was my first new car. My first car was a Jeep station wagon w/4 wheel drive. I forget what year it was now, but I bought it from my
boss at the time and although it was dependable, it was top heavy, so
I had to slow down going around sharp curves lest it turn over.
IT lowers the emmissions, In fact California requites a higher
engine temperture to LOWER the enissions
Nobody cares what CA requires, except law abiding Californians. The rest RW>of us use lower temperature thermostats in our cars. I used a 180 in my RW>Z28 when I lived in CA. Some people I knew at the time also had altered RW>their exhaust to eliminate oxygen sensors in the exhaust, in an attempt to RW>increase fuel/air ratios. Some even removed the cats...
If you have a better explanation, I'm all ears.
Well the Engine Block switch and the AC fan control are two seperate circuits and should not interfere with each other.
After consulting the factory Service Manual, I'm going to stick by my RW>statement.
/quote
Engine Electric Coolant Fans
Coolant fan operation is crucial to the proper operation of the air
conditioning system. The coolant fans ensure the proper amount of air flow RW>acrosss the condenser throughout the vehicle operating range.
Fan operation should be checked during any air conditioning diagnosis
procedure. Special attention should be given to the fan wheneve excessive RW>high side pressures are encountered.
/unquote
NOT being a Chevrolet Fan I got this from www.camaroz28.com on
coolant fan not runing if AC looses charge
****
There are 7 things to consider:
(the first 4 are ruled out because you said that the fan worked when the A/C was working.) Item 5; either the coolant temperature isn't reaching 238°F, or faulty wiring to the relay. Item 6; ECM fan driver may be bad. unforunately the ECM will need replacing. Using an adjustable temp switch (for winter/summer) would save you the trouble of buying a new ECM, but you'll lose the control the ECM has for different conditions.
Neither of these are what is happening. The coolant temp doesn't ever go RW>to 238F in any case. Even if you have a factory 195F thermostat, it won't RW>go that high. And, since the system works as it is supposed to work when RW>it is charged, I don't believe for a minute that there is anything wrong RW>with the system (other than a system leak).
You cannot perform a fan operation check without certain diagnostic tools, RW>as specified by GM.
FYI, my friend Harry would turn MB jobs away because he wasn't
inclined to work on them. He was even reluctant to take a MB for
free that somebody paid the towing fees on to get it out of their
yard. Harry fixed it, but didn't want anything more to do with it
and put a for sale sign on it.
Last I saw of it was when the new owner drove it off after it had
sat at the shop for months with that for sale sign on it. He
brought it back the next day, wanting Harry to do some work on it.
Harry declined to even listen to what the guy wanted done.
Dunno why but any other German made cars (except V8 Porche') were acceptabe to work on. The real money is in fixing Asian cars
because they're plentiful and so easy to diagnose and fix compared
to European cars.
I liked the front seat of my '57 Bel Air. Way more room.
I was a high school student in that year. Not having the income to
buy a new Chevy, I opted for a $50 V8 Ford. I suppose that had I
followed my father's advice, I would have bought a fat body (41-48)
Chevy (big back seats), but then, those weren't up to my
expectations of a real car at the time...
That was my grandfather's first new car too. A 1941 Chevy Deluxe
tudor, maroon. I always wanted that car, but he eventually traded
it in for a 52 Pontiac, maroon in color.
IT lowers the emmissions, In fact California requites a higher
engine temperture to LOWER the enissions
Nobody cares what CA requires, except law abiding Californians. The
rest of us use lower temperature thermostats in our cars. I used a
180 in my Z28 when I lived in CA. Some people I knew at the time
also had altered their exhaust to eliminate oxygen sensors in the
exhaust, in an attempt to increase fuel/air ratios. Some even
removed the cats...
You made a statement "implying" that Higher Engine temperature Raises Emissions. I mearly rebutted that statement saying it actualy LOWERS
it.
If you have a better explanation, I'm all ears.
Well the Engine Block switch and the AC fan control are two
seperate circuits and should not interfere with each other.
After consulting the factory Service Manual, I'm going to stick by
my statement.
/quote
Engine Electric Coolant Fans
Coolant fan operation is crucial to the proper operation of the air
conditioning system. The coolant fans ensure the proper amount of
air flow acrosss the condenser throughout the vehicle operating
range.
Fan operation should be checked during any air conditioning
diagnosis procedure. Special attention should be given to the fan
wheneve excessive high side pressures are encountered. /unquote
That quote has nothing to do with the Engine Block heat switch and
the operation of the Fan to pervent engine overheating.
IF your FAN was not responding the the engine block temperature
switch you had ANOTHER problem totally indepebndent to what the AC
system was reporting.
NOT being a Chevrolet Fan I got this from www.camaroz28.com on
coolant fan not runing if AC looses charge
****
There are 7 things to consider:
(the first 4 are ruled out because you said that the fan worked
when the A/C was working.) Item 5; either the coolant
temperature isn't reaching 238°F, or faulty wiring to the relay.
Item 6; ECM fan driver may be bad. unforunately the ECM will
need replacing. Using an adjustable temp switch (for
winter/summer) would save you the trouble of buying a new ECM,
but you'll lose the control the ECM has for different
conditions.
Neither of these are what is happening. The coolant temp doesn't
ever go to 238F in any case. Even if you have a factory 195F
thermostat, it won't go that high. And, since the system works as it
is supposed to work when it is charged, I don't believe for a minute
that there is anything wrong with the system (other than a system
leak).
You cannot perform a fan operation check without certain diagnostic
tools, as specified by GM.
Than why is it suggested you Ground the Wire GOING to the Block Fan
switch to see if the FAN would run?
WHICH it should, THEIR WORDS NOT MINE!!!!
On Fri Mar-22-2013 11:26, Roy Witt (1:387/22) wrote to Roger Nelson:
FYI, my friend Harry would turn MB jobs away because he wasn't
inclined to work on them. He was even reluctant to take a MB for
free that somebody paid the towing fees on to get it out of their
yard. Harry fixed it, but didn't want anything more to do with it
and put a for sale sign on it.
Well, if y'all ever come across any MBs in the mid-Nineties range
that the owner wants to give away, I'll take them. I can always use
extra parts. After all, the repair manual on them for that year range
is $140, so you can imagine what the replacement parts cost.
Last I saw of it was when the new owner drove it off after it had
sat at the shop for months with that for sale sign on it. He
brought it back the next day, wanting Harry to do some work on it.
Harry declined to even listen to what the guy wanted done.
I found a reliable shop here that can do the things I'm not able to
do on the Mercedes. I'd like it to be my Lincoln mechanics, but they
told me the only foreign car they would work on is a Toyota. I
didn't ask why.
Dunno why but any other German made cars (except V8 Porche') were
acceptabe to work on. The real money is in fixing Asian cars
because they're plentiful and so easy to diagnose and fix compared
to European cars.
My Lincoln mechanics told me last week they can't get a response out
of my Mark VIII's computer. That tells me I can no longer trust the
guy my SIL has known for a long time and has done so much for him.
Once I find I can't trust someone, I forget I know that person.
I liked the front seat of my '57 Bel Air. Way more room.
I was a high school student in that year. Not having the income to
buy a new Chevy, I opted for a $50 V8 Ford. I suppose that had I
followed my father's advice, I would have bought a fat body (41-48)
Chevy (big back seats), but then, those weren't up to my
expectations of a real car at the time...
I had a difficult time getting it because I had no credit background,
but the salesman moved heaven and earth to push the sale through. It
was a 2-door coupe and truquoise in color -- a beautiful car. The dealership didn't have that color in stock, so they tried to talk me
into a green 4-door sedan with the powerpack 283 engine, which was
the same engine I had exceot it had a 4-bbl carb instead of a 2-bbl.
I flatly refused. When I finished with mine, it had 3 dueces atop an Edelbrock manifold (altered by me) and an Engel 3/4 race cam and a
Mallory dual-point distributor. The original short block was
replaced with a Corvette block with 10:1 compression.
After I had the heads milled, I could almost outrun everything top
end except police radios. (-:[
That was my grandfather's first new car too. A 1941 Chevy Deluxe
tudor, maroon. I always wanted that car, but he eventually traded
it in for a 52 Pontiac, maroon in color.
The new Jeeps are somewhat of a disappointment, if you believe what's plastered on the Internet. I'd like to have a Pontiac "Goat".
Well, if y'all ever come across any MBs in the mid-Nineties range
that the owner wants to give away, I'll take them. I can always use
extra parts. After all, the repair manual on them for that year range
is $140, so you can imagine what the replacement parts cost.
8^) IOW, over engineered and over priced...
I found a reliable shop here that can do the things I'm not able to
do on the Mercedes. I'd like it to be my Lincoln mechanics, but they
told me the only foreign car they would work on is a Toyota. I
didn't ask why.
Probably for the same reason Harry won't work on MBs. Toyotas are plentiful and always need repair. Which translates into work for
the employees and money in the shop's tills. My friend Max in San
Diego told me the same thing about why he would rather work on a 4
or 6 cyl car than a V8. Easier to work on and the pay is the same.
His favorite was the BMW 4 and 6 cyl...he certainly had a bunch of 3-series BMW parts cars in his storage lot and wouldn't hesitate to
make an offer on one that a customer didn't want to pay to fix. He
usually got them for the price of parts and labor and turned them
around because he had so many extra parts on hand.
My Lincoln mechanics told me last week they can't get a response out
of my Mark VIII's computer. That tells me I can no longer trust the
guy my SIL has known for a long time and has done so much for him.
Once I find I can't trust someone, I forget I know that person.
Perhaps your Mark 8's PCM has suffered a problem that can't be
corrected unless it is repaired or replaced. If its a pre-OBD I PCM
(as in pre-1996), the only thing that can be done for it is to
replace the onboard chip that runs the PCM. Dunno about Ford
products, but GM pre-OBD I PCMs have a removable chip. BTW, that
chip can be tested outside of the computer.
I was a high school student in that year. Not having the income to
buy a new Chevy, I opted for a $50 V8 Ford. I suppose that had I
followed my father's advice, I would have bought a fat body (41-48)
Chevy (big back seats), but then, those weren't up to my
expectations of a real car at the time...
I had a difficult time getting it because I had no credit background,
but the salesman moved heaven and earth to push the sale through. It
was a 2-door coupe and truquoise in color -- a beautiful car. The dealership didn't have that color in stock, so they tried to talk me
into a green 4-door sedan with the powerpack 283 engine, which was
the same engine I had exceot it had a 4-bbl carb instead of a 2-bbl.
I flatly refused. When I finished with mine, it had 3 dueces atop an Edelbrock manifold (altered by me) and an Engel 3/4 race cam and a
Mallory dual-point distributor. The original short block was
replaced with a Corvette block with 10:1 compression.
It'd be nice to know the specs on that cam...lift, duration, etc..
After I had the heads milled, I could almost outrun everything top
end except police radios. (-:[
I did that once in my Corvette. The cop that came over the
center-divide on Clairmont Dr probably caught up with the Dodge
Charger I was racing, but never caught up with me. I dunno if he
caught the Dodge or not since I didn't go back to find out.
That was my grandfather's first new car too. A 1941 Chevy Deluxe
tudor, maroon. I always wanted that car, but he eventually traded
it in for a 52 Pontiac, maroon in color.
The new Jeeps are somewhat of a disappointment, if you believe what's plastered on the Internet. I'd like to have a Pontiac "Goat".
I just got a glimpse of a 2014 Siverado. Standard cab, shortbed
with a 6.2L LS engine and 6spd automatic. Wish I didn't like my
'paid for' 2002 so much.
IF your FAN was not responding the the engine block temperature
switch you had ANOTHER problem totally indepebndent to what the AC system was reporting.
I'll use the 1998 Service Manual to diagnose and repair what their testing RW>reveals...it specifically applies to the 1998 product rather than some RW>generic unknown source.
From the service manual of a 1998 5.7L F-car (Camaro/Firebird) here
is the descriptio of the cooling fan controls
Engine Cooling Fan Description - Electric
The electric cooling fans are used to cool engine coolant flowing
through the radiator. The fans are also used to cool the refrigerant flowing through the A/C condenser.
The electric cooling fans are controlled by the PCM. The PCM controls
the ground path for the three cooling fan relays. The relays are used
to control the high current flow to power the cooling fan motors.
Both fans operate together. When minimum cooling is required, the PCM energizes cooling fan relay #1 and both fans operate at low speed,
since the fans are connected in series through cooling fan relay #3. Cooling fan relay #2 is open (not energized) and is not used for low
speed operation of the fans. When maximum cooling is required, the
PCM energizes all three cooling fan relays. The left fan is still
powered through cooling fan relay #1, but is now grounded through
cooling fan relay #3. The right fan is now powered directly through cooling fan relay #2 and both fans operated at high speed.
The PCM will also enable the cooling fans after the ignition is
turned off. When the engine coolant temperature exceeds 113°C (235°F)
and the ignition is turned off, the cooling fans will be enabled on
low speed for 150 seconds.
Cooling Fans
The cooling fans are controlled by the PCM based on the
following inputs:
The A/C system.
The Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) sensor.
The Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS).
Looks like SEPERATE Functions to me controled by a combination of
Sensors and Relays.
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■ SLMR 2.1a ■ Typo Tom strikes agaoin
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My Mercedes is a 4-cyl.
It'd be nice to know the specs on that cam...lift, duration, etc..
I don't remember anything specifically about that car except I had a
lot of fun in it. (-: I doubt if a 1957 Engel cam can be googled,
but am uncertain.
After I had the heads milled, I could almost outrun everything top
end except police radios. (-:[
I did that once in my Corvette. The cop that came over the
center-divide on Clairmont Dr probably caught up with the Dodge
Charger I was racing, but never caught up with me. I dunno if he
caught the Dodge or not since I didn't go back to find out.
They got me on the Highway 11 bridge across lake Pontchartrain
between New Orleans and Slidell.
That was my grandfather's first new car too. A 1941 Chevy Deluxe
tudor, maroon. I always wanted that car, but he eventually traded
it in for a 52 Pontiac, maroon in color.
The new Jeeps are somewhat of a disappointment, if you believe
what's plastered on the Internet. I'd like to have a Pontiac
"Goat".
I just got a glimpse of a 2014 Siverado. Standard cab, shortbed
with a 6.2L LS engine and 6spd automatic. Wish I didn't like my
'paid for' 2002 so much.
Now is not the time to go into debt again, but only you can make that decision.
Did you like that last picture I sent?
Roger Nelson wrote to Roy Witt:
My Mercedes is a 4-cyl.
Sad...really sad.
It'd be nice to know the specs on that cam...lift, duration, etc..
I don't remember anything specifically about that car except I had a
lot of fun in it. (-: I doubt if a 1957 Engel cam can be googled,
but am uncertain.
You could probably get the specs from Engel, if they still exist.
After I had the heads milled, I could almost outrun everything top
end except police radios. (-:[
I did that once in my Corvette. The cop that came over the
center-divide on Clairmont Dr probably caught up with the Dodge
Charger I was racing, but never caught up with me. I dunno if he
caught the Dodge or not since I didn't go back to find out.
They got me on the Highway 11 bridge across lake Pontchartrain
between New Orleans and Slidell.
You mean they got you where there was no place to elude them.
That was my grandfather's first new car too. A 1941 Chevy Deluxe
tudor, maroon. I always wanted that car, but he eventually traded
it in for a 52 Pontiac, maroon in color.
The new Jeeps are somewhat of a disappointment, if you believe
what's plastered on the Internet. I'd like to have a Pontiac
"Goat".
I just got a glimpse of a 2014 Siverado. Standard cab, shortbed
with a 6.2L LS engine and 6spd automatic. Wish I didn't like my
'paid for' 2002 so much.
Now is not the time to go into debt again, but only you can make that decision.
I wouldn't be in debt, but my stock/interest income would be
impaired for a while.
Did you like that last picture I sent?
The one that said; The L.A. Zoo has an African lion, the White
House has a lyin' African 8^) yeup.
Closer to home (Chicago) it would read; The Brookfield Zoo has an
African Lion, etc...
TOM WALKER wrote to ROY WITT:
Mine says the same thing. It even has 4 stages of procedures to check the RW>AC system. However, it doesn't have a procedure to check out why the RW>radiator fans don't engage as the engine temps get higher than normal RW>operating temps when the PCM detects that the system is low on freon.
From the service manual of a 1998 5.7L F-car (Camaro/Firebird) here
is the descriptio of the cooling fan controls
Engine Cooling Fan Description - Electric
The electric cooling fans are used to cool engine coolant flowing through the radiator. The fans are also used to cool the refrigerant flowing through the A/C condenser.
The electric cooling fans are controlled by the PCM. The PCM controls the ground path for the three cooling fan relays. The relays are used to control the high current flow to power the cooling fan motors.
Both fans operate together. When minimum cooling is required, the PCM energizes cooling fan relay #1 and both fans operate at low speed, since the fans are connected in series through cooling fan relay #3. Cooling fan relay #2 is open (not energized) and is not used for low speed operation of the fans. When maximum cooling is required, the
PCM energizes all three cooling fan relays. The left fan is still powered through cooling fan relay #1, but is now grounded through cooling fan relay #3. The right fan is now powered directly through cooling fan relay #2 and both fans operated at high speed.
The PCM will also enable the cooling fans after the ignition is
turned off. When the engine coolant temperature exceeds 113°C (235°F) and the ignition is turned off, the cooling fans will be enabled on
low speed for 150 seconds.
Cooling Fans
The cooling fans are controlled by the PCM based on the
following inputs:
The A/C system.
The Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) sensor.
The Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS).
Looks like SEPERATE Functions to me controled by a combination of Sensors and Relays.
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My Mercedes is a 4-cyl.
Sad...really sad.Why is that?
This MB has a little over 191k on it and runs like a jackrabbit.
It doesn't have the overpowering V-8 the Mark VIII has, but for the driving I do, it is more than adequate.
You could probably get the specs from Engel, if they still exist.
They do.
Did you like that last picture I sent?
The one that said; The L.A. Zoo has an African lion, the White
House has a lyin' African 8^) yeup.
Did I send the one with the black smoke coming from the White House chimneys?
Mine says the same thing. It even has 4 stages of procedures to
check the AC system. However, it doesn't have a procedure to check
out why the radiator fans don't engage as the engine temps get
higher than normal operating temps when the PCM detects that the
system is low on freon.
Since the Engine temperature function has priority so the fans should
have run in high speed. Since it did not it indicatas either a bad
engine block sensor, a problem with one of the Relays, or an unusual problem with the vehicle speed input to the PCM.
My Mercedes is a 4-cyl.
Sad...really sad.
Why is that?
I find that a 4 cyl car leaves a lot to be desired.
This MB has a little over 191k on it and runs like a jackrabbit.
That makes my 94k mile Z28 run like a stripped-ass ape! Wanna race?
Don't mention superior gas mileage either.
It doesn't have the overpowering V-8 the Mark VIII has, but for the driving I do, it is more than adequate.
So were Model-Ts back in their day. Then along came 1932 and
changed it all.
You could probably get the specs from Engel, if they still exist.
They do.
Lobe seperation angle, lift and duration...
Did you like that last picture I sent?
The one that said; The L.A. Zoo has an African lion, the White
House has a lyin' African 8^) yeup.
Did I send the one with the black smoke coming from the White House chimneys?
Yeup.
My Mercedes is a 4-cyl.
Sad...really sad.
Why is that?
I find that a 4 cyl car leaves a lot to be desired.
If I were 20 years old, I would agree. (-:
This MB has a little over 191k on it and runs like a jackrabbit.
That makes my 94k mile Z28 run like a stripped-ass ape! Wanna race?
That has to be a rhetorical question.
Don't mention superior gas mileage either.
I'm doing alright. My only gripe is I have to use premium gas, i.e.,
93 octane.
It doesn't have the overpowering V-8 the Mark VIII has, but for the
driving I do, it is more than adequate.
So were Model-Ts back in their day. Then along came 1932 and
changed it all.
(-:
You could probably get the specs from Engel, if they still exist.
They do.
Lobe seperation angle, lift and duration...
I believe anyone could get the specs if I spelled Engle correctly.
(-:
Did you like that last picture I sent?
The one that said; The L.A. Zoo has an African lion, the White
House has a lyin' African 8^) yeup.
Did I send the one with the black smoke coming from the White House
chimneys?
Yeup.
Glad you liked them.
If I were 20 years old, I would agree. (-:
It's not the age that makes the difference, it's the mentality.
Don't mention superior gas mileage either.
I'm doing alright. My only gripe is I have to use premium gas, i.e.,
93 octane.
MPG?
I was headed for Illinois to see my mother on her birthday when my
friend Andrew told me that he was packing up for a trip to see his
mother in Minnesota. I was taking the Z28, he was taking his 94
Nissan (v6, auto-overdrive - Altima?). We started out together and
he thought he could go past the gas station that I'd have to make a
stop at. I kept on going for as long as he did, then when he pulled
into a station for a fill up I did too. The Z took .23 gallons more
than his Nissan, both getting the same mileage out of a 15 gallon
tank. Coulda pushed him over with a feather that day. Then I told
him I'd like to drive over the speed limit, which cause his Nissan
to burn more gas while the Z was slumbering along at 1800 rpm doing
70mph.
I believe anyone could get the specs if I spelled Engle correctly.
(-:
So you did a google already.
Glad you liked them.
I've got a couple from my BIL that I'll send along one of these
days.
Burma Shave type.
Mine says the same thing. It even has 4 stages of procedures to
check the AC system. However, it doesn't have a procedure to check RW>> out why the radiator fans don't engage as the engine temps get
higher than normal operating temps when the PCM detects that the
system is low on freon.
Since the Engine temperature function has priority so the fans should have run in high speed. Since it did not it indicatas either a bad engine block sensor, a problem with one of the Relays, or an unusual problem with the vehicle speed input to the PCM.
Since all of it works as designed with a full load of freon, I have my RW>doubts about your diagnoses.
If I were 20 years old, I would agree. (-:
It's not the age that makes the difference, it's the mentality.
Oh, the mentality is still there, but at the same time it is
cognizant of the body's condition, else I'd have been riding my SIL's Harley long ago. A Trike is the fad here nowadays.
Don't mention superior gas mileage either.
I'm doing alright. My only gripe is I have to use premium gas,
i.e., 93 octane.
MPG?
The MB? About 17MPG in the city. I rarely go out of town with it.
I was headed for Illinois to see my mother on her birthday when my
friend Andrew told me that he was packing up for a trip to see his
mother in Minnesota. I was taking the Z28, he was taking his 94
Nissan (v6, auto-overdrive - Altima?). We started out together and
he thought he could go past the gas station that I'd have to make a
stop at. I kept on going for as long as he did, then when he pulled
into a station for a fill up I did too. The Z took .23 gallons more
than his Nissan, both getting the same mileage out of a 15 gallon
tank. Coulda pushed him over with a feather that day. Then I told
him I'd like to drive over the speed limit, which cause his Nissan
to burn more gas while the Z was slumbering along at 1800 rpm doing
70mph.
That's interesting. My Mark VIII gets over 30MPG at 1400RPM on the highway at 60 (usually the safest speed to go because the speed
limits change suddenly and sometimes without warning).
The MPG will increase slightly if I'm going north to south, but
everyone laughs at me when I tell them that. (-:
Mine says the same thing. It even has 4 stages of procedures to RW>>> check the AC system. However, it doesn't have a procedure to
check out why the radiator fans don't engage as the engine
temps get higher than normal operating temps when the PCM
detects that the system is low on freon.
Since the Engine temperature function has priority so the fans
should have run in high speed. Since it did not it indicatas
either a bad engine block sensor, a problem with one of the
Relays, or an unusual problem with the vehicle speed input to
the PCM.
Since all of it works as designed with a full load of freon, I have
my doubts about your diagnoses.
Doubt al you wabnt. But the Circuit was designed so the Engine Bloc kTemperasture has Priority and should always run the fans no mater
what the other sensors dictated.
IF the Fans did not run when the engine cooling water reached the Set
Temp for fan activaqtion there WAS a fault in the system
Oh, the mentality is still there, but at the same time it is
cognizant of the body's condition, else I'd have been riding my SIL's Harley long ago. A Trike is the fad here nowadays.
Backward trikes maybe. Certainly not HD trikes anymore.
That's interesting. My Mark VIII gets over 30MPG at 1400RPM on the highway at 60 (usually the safest speed to go because the speed
limits change suddenly and sometimes without warning).
60mph would be on the cusp between 5th and 6th gear in the
Z...1400rpm is too low in 6th and 60mph in 5th is over 1500rpm.
The MPG will increase slightly if I'm going north to south, but
everyone laughs at me when I tell them that. (-:
Dunno why. 8^)
Oh, the mentality is still there, but at the same time it is
cognizant of the body's condition, else I'd have been riding my
SIL's Harley long ago. A Trike is the fad here nowadays.
Backward trikes maybe. Certainly not HD trikes anymore.
Right. I still couldn't afford one. (-:
That's interesting. My Mark VIII gets over 30MPG at 1400RPM on the
highway at 60 (usually the safest speed to go because the speed
limits change suddenly and sometimes without warning).
60mph would be on the cusp between 5th and 6th gear in the
Z...1400rpm is too low in 6th and 60mph in 5th is over 1500rpm.
I think one of the factors is the Mark VIII lowers itelf slightly at
high speeds to reduce drag (the body is a sleek design) and the transmission is in overdrive, reducing the strain on the V-8.
The MPG will increase slightly if I'm going north to south, but
everyone laughs at me when I tell them that. (-:
Dunno why. 8^)
Because anyone going north to south is going downhill. (-:0
An example is when we visit relatives every other week in north
Louisiana. The time to get there, since we're traveling south to
north, is greater than the return home time. Try it yourself. I'll
bet you notice the difference.
Backward trikes maybe. Certainly not HD trikes anymore.
Right. I still couldn't afford one. (-:
I can't see the motorcycle rider's need for such a vehicle, unless
one doesn't have any sense of balance.
I think one of the factors is the Mark VIII lowers itelf slightly at
high speeds to reduce drag (the body is a sleek design) and the transmission is in overdrive, reducing the strain on the V-8.
Since that isn't a torque motor, I don't get the impression that it
would be anything but a strain on it.
My mother used to drive a straight 8 Pontiac with 3spd on the
column. She'd take off from a stop sign and shift into 3rd gear
before she got across the intersection. When I drove it, I wasn't
in 3rd gear until way past the intersection. She was lugging that
motor and I was letting it do its intended job. She told my dad
about it and he said that I was right...I was only 15yo at that
time.
The MPG will increase slightly if I'm going north to south, but
everyone laughs at me when I tell them that. (-:
Dunno why. 8^)
Because anyone going north to south is going downhill. (-:0
Not exactly. If your north starting place was on a plateau and you
were going south, that might be down hill.
But just heading south from north isn't going down hill.
An example is when we visit relatives every other week in north
Louisiana. The time to get there, since we're traveling south to
north, is greater than the return home time. Try it yourself. I'll
bet you notice the difference.
I've driven from here to Illinois and back. There is no
difference...
I think one of the factors is the Mark VIII lowers itelf slightly at
high speeds to reduce drag (the body is a sleek design) and the
transmission is in overdrive, reducing the strain on the V-8.
Since that isn't a torque motor, I don't get the impression that it
would be anything but a strain on it.
Mot sure what you mean by that, but it isn't important.
Because anyone going north to south is going downhill. (-:0
Not exactly. If your north starting place was on a plateau and you
were going south, that might be down hill.
There are no plateaus in Louisiana. (-: West Texas, maybe.
Through no fault of mine, I haven't been that far west. Had I been single at the time, I would have gone to the California coast just to experience the lack of humidity.
But just heading south from north isn't going down hill.
Yes, it is. Think about the differences in sea level.
An example is when we visit relatives every other week in north
Louisiana. The time to get there, since we're traveling south to
north, is greater than the return home time. Try it yourself. I'll
bet you notice the difference.
I've driven from here to Illinois and back. There is no
difference...
Did you average the same speed going and coming and not notice the difference?
Mot sure what you mean by that, but it isn't important.
Torque moves objects...HP is derived from a torque reading.
Because anyone going north to south is going downhill. (-:0
Not exactly. If your north starting place was on a plateau and you
were going south, that might be down hill.
There are no plateaus in Louisiana. (-: West Texas, maybe.
Central Texas...where I live is the very eastern edge of what is
known here as the 'Hill Country'. I live in an area also known as
South Central Texas...Driving south out of Dallas/FW area at first
you go up hill, then it's down hill from there. D/FW is farther
east than San Antonio. Houston is farther north and east of SA. San Antonio is farther south than NO...
But, you're never going to be at or near sea level until you get to Corpus...
Through no fault of mine, I haven't been that far west. Had I been single at the time, I would have gone to the California coast just to experience the lack of humidity.
You don't have to go that far. SC Texas has no humidity, unless
there is an offshore flow from the Gulf. You can be outside in the afternoon here and the temps may be 95F, but you won't feel it
until the humidty reaches over 90% or more. That's pretty rare, as
usually there is a breeze out of the north blowing off shore.
But just heading south from north isn't going down hill.
Yes, it is. Think about the differences in sea level.
There is no difference here. There isn't any difference until you
get to the tip of South America, where the Atlantic and Pacific
meet. Of course this isn't the only place you can experience
different ocean levels. This is why there are locks in the Panama
Canal, so that ships can meet the levels of both oceans as they
head west or east.
An example is when we visit relatives every other week in north
Louisiana. The time to get there, since we're traveling south to
north, is greater than the return home time. Try it yourself. I'll
bet you notice the difference.
I've driven from here to Illinois and back. There is no
difference...
Did you average the same speed going and coming and not notice the difference?
Same speed, same roads...I've tried several different routes and
they all work out the same.
Mot sure what you mean by that, but it isn't important.
Torque moves objects...HP is derived from a torque reading.
Yes, but if I'm not careful in pressing the gas pedal, I'll be thrown
into the back seat (not literally).
Because anyone going north to south is going downhill. (-:0
Not exactly. If your north starting place was on a plateau and you
were going south, that might be down hill.
Yes, exactly.
There are no plateaus in Louisiana. (-: West Texas, maybe.
Central Texas...where I live is the very eastern edge of what is
known here as the 'Hill Country'. I live in an area also known as
South Central Texas...Driving south out of Dallas/FW area at first
you go up hill, then it's down hill from there. D/FW is farther
east than San Antonio. Houston is farther north and east of SA. San
Antonio is farther south than NO...
I've only been to four cities iun Texas (Baytown, Dallas, Fort Worth, Houston), but have been through more and no farther west.
But, you're never going to be at or near sea level until you get to
Corpus...
Or New Orleans. (-:
Through no fault of mine, I haven't been that far west. Had I
been single at the time, I would have gone to the California coast
just to experience the lack of humidity.
You don't have to go that far. SC Texas has no humidity, unless
there is an offshore flow from the Gulf. You can be outside in the
afternoon here and the temps may be 95F, but you won't feel it
until the humidty reaches over 90% or more. That's pretty rare, as
usually there is a breeze out of the north blowing off shore.
There's another reason I didn't mention. I've only seen the Pacific
Ocean in pictures.
A couple of years from now, if not sooner, I'm going to take a trip
to Las Vegas and from there go to see the Grand Canyon. My only
regret will be I won't be able to ride a horse while there.
But just heading south from north isn't going down hill.
Yes, it is. Think about the differences in sea level.
There is no difference here. There isn't any difference until you
get to the tip of South America, where the Atlantic and Pacific
meet. Of course this isn't the only place you can experience
different ocean levels. This is why there are locks in the Panama
Canal, so that ships can meet the levels of both oceans as they
head west or east.
What a tangent! (-: Make that northwest and southeast.
An example is when we visit relatives every other week in north
Louisiana. The time to get there, since we're traveling south to
north, is greater than the return home time. Try it yourself.
I'll bet you notice the difference.
I've driven from here to Illinois and back. There is no
difference...
I find that difficult to believe and since this didn't come up before
you made the trip, you naturally wouldn't notice since you wouldn't
have had that on your mind.
Did you average the same speed going and coming and not notice the
difference?
Same speed, same roads...I've tried several different routes and
they all work out the same.
Yes, but if I'm not careful in pressing the gas pedal, I'll be thrown
into the back seat (not literally).
Too strong of a return spring on your gas pedal?
Because anyone going north to south is going downhill. (-:0
Not exactly. If your north starting place was on a plateau and you
were going south, that might be down hill.
Yes, exactly.
What if you're driving west from the white cliffs of Dover?
I've only been to four cities iun Texas (Baytown, Dallas, Fort Worth, Houston), but have been through more and no farther west.
FW is east of here, if you look at it in a parallel sense of
direction.
But, you're never going to be at or near sea level until you get to
Corpus...
Or New Orleans. (-:
NO is -Sea Level. I've driven several cars at 36 feet below sea
level.
There's another reason I didn't mention. I've only seen the Pacific
Ocean in pictures.
I'd never seen the Gulf of Mexico except in pictures, until I moved
here. The Pacific is a beautiful blue while the Gulf is an ugly
brown full of jelly fish.
A couple of years from now, if not sooner, I'm going to take a trip
to Las Vegas and from there go to see the Grand Canyon. My only
regret will be I won't be able to ride a horse while there.
There aren't any horses at the GC...only mules. Take the old steam
engine train from Williams instead. It stops at the GC lodge and
you can get a room and stay for a few days. There's also a
helicopter ride over the canyon, which is much easier than riding a
mule to the bottom.
What a tangent! (-: Make that northwest and southeast.
You might want to look a little closer: The canal itself runs in a east/west direction in Panama. However, ships traveling from the
Pacific to the Atlantic travel in a northwest direction, while
ships traveling from the Atlantic to the Pacific head Southeast.
I find that difficult to believe and since this didn't come up before
you made the trip, you naturally wouldn't notice since you wouldn't
have had that on your mind.
Oh but I would. I always keep track of my mileage and how much fuel
I use, where we fuel up and where we eat (not necessarily at the
same stop).
I never take such a trip without planning the route first. Indeed,
when I didn't like the route traveled to Illinois on one particular
trip (IH-40 to US54 at Tucumcari, NM northeastward to Wichita, KS
(IH35)), I sat at my parent's kitchen table and planned a different
and faster route back to San Diego. US54 was scenic, but a
terrible road to use if you're in a hurry. My dad recommended it,
so I considered the source and didn't take it home...
There's another reason I didn't mention. I've only seen the Pacific Ocean i RN>pictures. A couple of years from now, if not sooner, I'm going to take a tr RN>to Las Vegas and from there go to see the Grand Canyon. My only regret will RN>I won't be able to ride a horse while there.
Because anyone going north to south is going downhill. (-:0
Not exactly. If your north starting place was on a plateau and you
were going south, that might be down hill.
Yes, exactly.
What if you're driving west from the white cliffs of Dover?
More than likely you'll run into a flock of Bluebirds. (-:
[...]
I'd never seen the Gulf of Mexico except in pictures, until I moved
here. The Pacific is a beautiful blue while the Gulf is an ugly
brown full of jelly fish.
Go a little farther out and it is green until you get to the Gulf
Stream, which is a beautiful blue. I've been in it.
A couple of years from now, if not sooner, I'm going to take a
trip to Las Vegas and from there go to see the Grand Canyon. My
only regret will be I won't be able to ride a horse while there.
There aren't any horses at the GC...only mules. Take the old steam
engine train from Williams instead. It stops at the GC lodge and
you can get a room and stay for a few days. There's also a
helicopter ride over the canyon, which is much easier than riding a
mule to the bottom.
Surely there are stables nearby where a horse can be rented.
I thought I saw an ad a few years back when I almost went there --
Apache something-or-other. [...]
What a tangent! (-: Make that northwest and southeast.
You might want to look a little closer: The canal itself runs in a
east/west direction in Panama. However, ships traveling from the
Pacific to the Atlantic travel in a northwest direction, while
ships traveling from the Atlantic to the Pacific head Southeast.
Isn't that what I wrote? (-:
I find that difficult to believe and since this didn't come up
before you made the trip, you naturally wouldn't notice since you
wouldn't have had that on your mind.
Oh but I would. I always keep track of my mileage and how much fuel
I use, where we fuel up and where we eat (not necessarily at the
same stop).
I never take such a trip without planning the route first. Indeed,
when I didn't like the route traveled to Illinois on one particular
trip (IH-40 to US54 at Tucumcari, NM northeastward to Wichita, KS
(IH35)), I sat at my parent's kitchen table and planned a different
and faster route back to San Diego. US54 was scenic, but a
terrible road to use if you're in a hurry. My dad recommended it,
so I considered the source and didn't take it home...
I didn't mean to make that assumption, so it's different for us.
(-:0 [...]
My only regret will I won't be able to ride a horse while there.
You do NOT want to do that anyhow. The Grand Canyon Ride to the bottom
of the Canyon and back up is a KILLER for Old Bones. :-)
My only regret will I won't be able to ride a horse while there.
You do NOT want to do that anyhow. The Grand Canyon Ride to the bottom RN>TW> of the Canyon and back up is a KILLER for Old Bones. :-)
But, but, Ronald Reagan rode one until he couldn't get his foot in the stirr
(-:
"The best thing for the inside of a man is the outside of a horse."
---Ronald Reagan
"The best thing for the inside of a man is the outside of a horse."
---Ronald Reagan
That may be true but there is a vast difference between riding a
horse on in open country or even on a trail and down into and out
of the Grand Canyon.
I never did do the the Tourist ride but in my younger years I did
hike down into the Havasupai Indann reservation and ride a Horse
out, The owner wanted soem supplies form the trading post up on the
canyon rim at the head of the trail A frend and I took them up so
they could be loaded and brought back down with the next pack horse
trip.
I never did do the the Tourist ride but in my younger years I did
hike down into the Havasupai Indann reservation and ride a Horse
out, The owner wanted soem supplies form the trading post up on the canyon rim at the head of the trail A frend and I took them up so
they could be loaded and brought back down with the next pack horse trip.
If I survive my upcoming knee surgery and go west (that sounds familiar), I RN>just might be able to get on the saddle without help. Only then will I know RN>which one of us is right, although I should point out I'm not disagreeing wi RN>you -- I'm just stubborn when it comes to things I've done in the past.
I'm just stubborn when it comes to things I've done in the past.
Ask Roy, I have a bit of stubborness myself. :-) :-)
And I hear you. I tried to wrok on cars wel past the tiem when a reasonable man would have given it up.
. My last gasp was Oil Changes and I finally had to give that up a
little less then two years ago.
I guess I should jsut rembember the good tiems as for over 50 years
I did almsot all of my repairs except Body work and Automatic transmissions. And since for many years because of necessity I picked
my vehicles from the Consumer Reports "Worst Used Car Buy" list. I
even had my own Tow Bar so I could rescue the wife when her car quit.
Frotunatly I only had to do that four times. On one occasion I
changed the timing belt in the parking lot where she works. Adn twice
I had to rescue me secong son. He was a driver that was hard on cars.
He had two Mercurt Capri v-6's which had a Composition fiber tweeth
of the timing grar.
He shucked it twice and I had to change it. It hapened enough that
the Mercury Dealer has a special gasket kit for Timing gear
replacement.
In the last several years the Realities of Old Age have really ghit
me hard. I had to give up working the San Diego County Sheriffs
Volunter Patrol after a little over 10 years
and also My playing "Apprentice Machinist and General Maitenance
gofer" at the Campo Railroad Museum Facility also after a little over
10 years.
I never did do the the Tourist ride but in my younger years I did
hike down into the Havasupai Indann reservation and ride a Horse
out, The owner wanted soem supplies form the trading post up on the canyon rim at the head of the trail A frend and I took them up so
they could be loaded and brought back down with the next pack horse trip.
If I survive my upcoming knee surgery and go west (that sounds
familiar), I just might be able to get on the saddle without help.
Only then will I know which one of us is right, although I should
point out I'm not disagreeing with you -- I'm just stubborn when it RN>comes to things I've done in the past.
Ask Roy, I have a bit of stubborness myself. :-) :-)
And I hear you. I tried to wrok on cars wel past the tiem when a reasonable man would have given it up.. My last gasp was Oil
Changes and I finally had to give that up a little less then two
years ago. I guess I should jsut rembember the good tiems as for
over 50 years I did almsot all of my repairs except Body work and Automatic transmissions. And since for many years because of
necessity I picked my vehicles from the Consumer Reports "Worst
Used Car Buy" list. I even had my own Tow Bar so I could rescue
the wife when her car quit. Frotunatly I only had to do that four
times. On one occasion I changed the timing belt in the parking
lot where she works. Adn twice I had to rescue me secong son. He
was a driver that was hard on cars. He had two Mercurt Capri v-6's
which had a Composition fiber tweeth of the timing grar. He
shucked it twice and I had to change it. It hapened enough that
the Mercury Dealer has a special gasket kit for Timing gear
replacement.
In the last several years the Realities of Old Age have really ghit
me hard. I had to give up working the San Diego County Sheriffs
Volunter Patrol after a little over 10 years and also My playing "Apprentice Machinist and General Maitenance gofer" at the Campo
Railroad Museum Facility also after a little over 10 years.
That's true and maybe my ol' bones couldn't take it, but I do remember
how
to sit a horse. It's just like riding a bycicle.
One has to pay careful attention to the instructions as it is very easy
to Overcharge the system. And it causes problems, some of which can
damage the compressor.
I liked the front seat of my '57 Bel Air. Way more room.
One has to pay careful attention to the instructions as it is very easy MH>TW> to Overcharge the system. And it causes problems, some of which can MH>TW> damage the compressor.
Yes, overcharging can damage the compressor and also make the system not blo MH>cold air.
Most of the re-charge kits available come with a gauge on them. I would hig MH>recommend using one of the hoses with the gauge so you are not blindly addin MH>coolant.
That's true and maybe my ol' bones couldn't take it, but I do remember how
to sit a horse. It's just like riding a bycicle.
I rode 67.44 horses this morning to work. :)
- Mark
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