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I was thinking primarily about removing everything POTS related.
And, needless to say a bunch of other functions related to that such as Cost calculations and so on.
What needs to be added is of course IPv6 support.
Before I go about this giant enterprise, I would welcome any
thoughts you can come up with.
I'm not promising there will be anything but brainstorming here -- with Christmas coming up and all -- but I promise y'all I'll eventually give it my best shot, with your help! If nothing else, I should be able
to issue a new version of Radius with a new version number... 8-)
I've had some time glancing through the source that Paul sent me, and
have a lot of ideas about especially what parts I can remove.
I was thinking primarily about removing everything POTS related.
And, needless to say a bunch of other functions related to that such
as Cost calculations and so on.
What needs to be added is of course IPv6 support.
Before I go about this giant enterprise, I would welcome any
thoughts you can come up with.
I'm not promising there will be anything but brainstorming here --
with Christmas coming up and all -- but I promise y'all I'll
eventually give it my best shot, with your help! If nothing else, I
should be able to issue a new version of Radius with a new version number... 8-)
Have you asked the Trapgate author
It would be nice to see it updated, that's for sure. Then again, it
would be nice to see any of the old mailers updated to include today's features. :)
I'm not promising there will be anything but brainstorming here
-- with Christmas coming up and all -- but I promise y'all I'll
eventually give it my best shot, with your help! If nothing else, I
should be able to issue a new version of Radius with a new version number... 8-)
Before I go about this giant enterprise, I would welcome any thoughts you can come up with.
I've had some time glancing through the source that Paul sent me, and
have
a lot of ideas about especially what parts I can remove.
I was thinking primarily about removing everything POTS related. And, needless to say a bunch of other functions related to that such as Cost calculations and so on.
What needs to be added is of course IPv6 support.
Before I go about this giant enterprise, I would welcome any thoughts you can come up with.
I'm not promising there will be anything but brainstorming here --
with
Thanks to the FTSC, Radius desperately needs to be updated to
disassociate the Txy flags from the ",U," prefix.
I don't know what version Taurus might present. Hopefully Mark
Lewis could help with that. Pretty please, Mark?
check sourceforge first... there may be new code there already... it is still under maintenence, AFAIK...
Put the IPv6 stuff in first it should be far easyer that pulling out all the POTS stuff. Mind you, it is still a job if you are no familear with it.
I'm not promising there will be anything but brainstorming here --
Taurus v.5.114.2013.19/Summer/FastMM 4.991/DEBUG
just over a year old, it looks like... i need to try to pull an update from SF and see if it has changed there or not... the last time i looked, it appeared that the code hadn't been updated in a while...
check sourceforge first... there may be new code there already...
it is still under maintenence, AFAIK...
Where do you think I went first? 8-)
None of the links for Argus or Radius worked. The files seem to
be 11 years old.
In fact the entire sourceforge.net website seems to be down now...
"There's instability and frequent 500 errors on the SourceForge
site currently. We're working on getting this fixed as soon as we
can."
I'll look for Taurus later, but ATM it seems like the source I
got from Paul is the latest, so I good for now.
I'll look for Taurus later, but ATM it seems like the source I
got from Paul is the latest, so I good for now.
OK :)
Put the IPv6 stuff in first it should be far easyer that pulling out all the POTS stuff. Mind you, it is still a job if you are no familear with it.
Taurus v.5.114.2013.19/Summer/FastMM 4.991/DEBUG
just over a year old, it looks like... i need to try to pull an
update from SF and see if it has changed there or not... the last
time i looked, it appeared that the code hadn't been updated in a while...
I was under the impression that dev elopment had stopped on that??
Have not seen any updates coming in in the Filegate.
I'll look for Taurus later, but ATM it seems like the source I
got from Paul is the latest, so I good for now.
OK :)
Got this far, at least:
26-Nov-2014 18:21:01 Begin v4.010/26.11.2014,18:11(Final-Release)
But now I'm off to the dentist. Just when I got started... :(
wait.. what?? that's today's date but that version is ""old""... oh, uhh... is that radius?? can't be "final-release" either, can it ;)
Thanks to the FTSC, Radius desperately needs to be updated to
disassociate the Txy flags from the ",U," prefix.
that change by the FTSC was correcting a clerical error... the problem that change lead to in radius comes from too strict coding that's not really necessary...
eg: frontdoor didn't have a problem with the change because flags are flags and it doesn't care about the ,U, separator field denoting user flags...
the fix in the code is simple... just comment out the line specifically looking for the ",U," field ;)
i posted the latest one i've found... it was extremely surprising to
find such a new version...
Taurus v.5.114.2013.19/Summer/FastMM 4.991/DEBUG
just over a year old, it looks like... i need to try to pull an update from SF and see if it has changed there or not... the last time i
looked, it appeared that the code hadn't been updated in a while...
I'm not promising there will be anything but brainstorming here --
I use Taurus, but only as a POTS front end. It allows me to transfer POTS calls to a telnet node on the BBS. It was for that reason I switiched
to a 32 bit front end.
Sigh! No wonder people suspect that C originally was a student prank from the Berkeley University. After all, they also gave us unix and
LSD... 8-)
i have no idea other than i found some newer versions than what i had in operation... as for distribution, that would be something that FDN host needs to handle... i can't tell you who that is right now, though... it'll be listed in the filegate.zxx file, though... if the FDN still exists, that is...
Taurus can do that? POTS to telnet all by itself?
Taurus can do that? POTS to telnet all by itself?
No, of course not. I needed the 32 bit front end to use the program
that does do it though. My Intermail would not do that. Its called dialuptotelnet, and its run as a door
wait.. what?? that's today's date but that version is ""old""...
oh, uhh... is that radius?? can't be "final-release" either, can
it ;)
Yes indeed, it's Radius. But you don't think they were smart
enough to have a single #define somewhere with the version type,
number and date, do you? They didn't even keep all that info in
the About dialogue (that is empty).
Bugger me if I want to waste time trying to track down all
occurrences of VersionNumber for the time being. But it's high on
the todo list.
Now I'm on the C spree. Jeezz, how complicated they do things.
I had Radius up and compiled in no time, but even when I install
MinGW fresh and use the mingw Makefile the damn binkd doesn't
compile.
I even had to manually create a number of sub-folders for gcc
to even start trying to compile, and then it pukes on the very
first compiler directive in the makefile, '-mno-cygwin' that
obviously doesn't exist.
Sigh! No wonder people suspect that C originally was a student
prank from the Berkeley University. After all, they also gave us
unix and LSD... 8-)
the fix in the code is simple... just comment out the line
specifically looking for the ",U," field ;)
I had a good look with Total Commander for about 10mins and gave
up after a negative result. :(
the fix would be easy...
i loaded taurus' code in Lazarus as a project and told it to search all documents for ",U," or such... found it within seconds, as i recall... that's when i first told you that if the code in argus and radius was
the same as in taurus, the fix would be easy... the problem is compiling it since i don't have delphi other than the old personal edition...
besides, it would be a hell of a lot better for the network if these ""tools"" were ported away from winwhatever and made multiplatform... that's easier done with FPC and lazarus than delphi which is just barely getting away from whineshite ;)
the fix would be easy...
Should be fixed now (in Radius)... 8-)
Could you send me a copy, please?
Could you send me a copy, please?
Nah. IPv6 first.
No, of course not. I needed the 32 bit front end to use the program
that does do it though. My Intermail would not do that. Its called
dialuptotelnet, and its run as a door
Ahha. I thought so. There's a copy of that doover here, though unused.
it sometimes tends to phone a node to deliver the mail
Put the IPv6 stuff in first it should be far easyer that
pulling out all the POTS stuff. Mind you, it is still a job if
you are no familear with it.
If only you knew how much of the code is spent on ZModem,
Hydra(!), online chat, and dozens of more POTS only functions, you
would say that. :)
But of course, now that I got it to compile OK, the first step
is to extend the calls to Winsock to handle IPv6. I might even use
ready made object files from the binkd source -- no need to convert
the C code to PAS if not needed, even if I've done it many times?
Oh yes, there's a lot of code in it to make it work with Win95
and 98 too, I think I'll lose that too. After all, it *is*
originally a relic from last century. A major clean-up is urgently needed, that's for sure.
Biggest problem I have with Taurus is, that it sometimes tends to
phone a node to deliver the mail, Not sure if there is a switch to
turn that off, or if I did and it is not working right. If it is
a POTS only node, then no problem, but no need if there is a IP
capable node.
won't be able to use your new version?
you can use the override grid to change the phone number to "-Unpublished-" while listing the internet protocol you desire to use
with that system...
won't be able to use your new version?
I would, that's what's important to me. For people with other preferences than me, the other three family members still are out
there.
you can use the override grid to change the phone number to "-Unpublished-" while listing the internet protocol you desire to
use with that system...
Or you can put V22 as the only flag Required in the Dialing
(sic) Restrictions. Not many 1200 baud modems left in fidonet
nowadays... :)
why did you chop the context so badly? my comment was specifically
about others running win9x and the other one mentioned and wanting to
use your bug fixed version of the mailer thing :sigh:
Because that is what he does when he doesnt like what one said.
Or you can put V22 as the only flag Required in the Dialing
(sic) Restrictions. Not many 1200 baud modems left in fidonet
nowadays... :)
i've never had a need to use any of the restrictions stuffs... i've
always used the overrides ;)
i'm sure that others will find the information helpful... i may even
give it a try at some point O:)
I thought it particularly devious and scored it a 10 from 10 for inventiveness. I liked it. :)
I thought it particularly devious and scored it a 10 from 10 for
inventiveness. I liked it. :)
Oh, WOW, kinda. You mean I actually managed to pay you back for all the valuable tricks and treats that you have supplied us with in this
echo for all those years?
That never happened when I used Argus, but started happening with
Radius, with exactly the same settings, so it's obviously a bug in the newer family members. A bug that can add significantly to your phone bill if there's no answer and you pay per call (as I do).
Added to the todo list...
you can use the override grid to change the phone number to "-Unpublished-" while listing the internet protocol you desire to use with that system...
Because that is what he does when he doesnt like what one said.
You have anything to add?
you can use the override grid to change the phone number to "-Unpublished-" while listing the internet protocol you desire to
use with that system...
Yeah, but I have only one node listed with a phone number. It uses
the nodelist to call, as far as I can tell. I have IP or binkd
stuff turned off.
i'm not understanding your complaint then... if you are only using the mailer for POTS, what's the problem with it making the call to deliver the mail? if you don't want it making any phone calls and you have the IP stuff turned off, why are you even running the mailer? it is useless and wasting resources...
i'm not understanding your complaint then... if you are only using
the mailer for POTS, what's the problem with it making the call to deliver the mail? if you don't want it making any phone calls and
you have the IP stuff turned off, why are you even running the
mailer? it is useless and wasting resources...
It is there simply for Incoming calls. and sometimes for POTS only
nodes.
I get POTS calls to the BBS, and I used to get POTS calls at times
from people whose mail was on hold, to pick up their mail.
If that phone line goes, then Taurus also goes.
[rhetorical] how can one called their ISP about an outtage when their phone is VoIP?? ;) [/rhetorical]
[rhetorical] how can one called their ISP about an outtage when their phone is VoIP?? ;) [/rhetorical]
It's really amazing how long time it can take to compile the
above properly. Just a single, misplaced 'd' and it all turns out completely different.
It is there simply for Incoming calls. and sometimes for POTS only
nodes.
THAT i can understand :) it wasn't referenced in your original post which is one of the reasons why i was confused...
[rhetorical] how can one called their ISP about an outtage when their phone is VoIP?? ;) [/rhetorical]
If that phone line goes, then Taurus also goes.
so no experimenting with VoIP for POTS callers of either type? ;)
Paul Quinn wrote to mark lewis <=-
I use a combination of restrictions, both required & forbidden for both dial-up & IP. An override covers a single destination. Restrictions
are 'class actions', covering many destinations. I guess you knew this already. Oops...
I'd like to throw a question out there -- I'm using Radius, used Argus for some time. I'd always wanted to be able to use the nodelist directly, but in able to get polling to work had to load in the ARGUS.TXT overrides,then
in the TCP/IP restrictions field entered BND as a required field.
I'd like to be able to have Radius dial from the nodelist, but it seems that it can't parse the combinations of flags to define BINK connectivity.
Is there a better way of getting Radius to connect via BINK than using the override file?
INA-flagged nodelist entries; something that Argus doesn't know about IIRC