• IPv6

    From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to All on Sat Nov 15 19:31:16 2014
    So, now that Paul and Mark agitated me enough to really give Radius a serious try, it seems like I actually *am* running Radius here.

    The question now is, how do I get this SOB to do outgoing IPv6?

    I notice that neither Paul nor Mark is listed in the list of IPv6 capable nodes (as opposed to my old Argus line... :) ), but now my system should be able to, no?

    Or should I take this to the IPV6 echo, because none of you here have the slightest idea? 8-)

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/701 to Björn Felten on Sat Nov 15 13:02:52 2014
    Hello Bj├╢rn,

    On 15 Nov 14 19:31, Bj├╢rn Felten wrote to All:

    So, now that Paul and Mark agitated me enough to really give Radius a serious try, it seems like I actually *am* running Radius here.

    The question now is, how do I get this SOB to do outgoing IPv6?

    I notice that neither Paul nor Mark is listed in the list of IPv6 capable nodes (as opposed to my old Argus line... :) ), but now my
    system should be able to, no?

    Or should I take this to the IPV6 echo, because none of you here
    have the slightest idea? 8-)

    I honestly don't think Radius does outgoing IPv6 either. As a matter of fact, it may only be binkd that will do it at the moment. It seems that most current developers don't see a need for it just yet (I believe I've heard this from the
    Mystic dev, BBBS dev, Synchronet devs (although there is an IPv6 patch for Synchronet somewhat recently, I just haven't had the time to give it a run for it's money yet).

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.71 to Björn Felten on Sat Nov 15 15:43:01 2014

    On Sat, 15 Nov 2014, Björn Felten wrote to All:

    The question now is, how do I get this SOB to do outgoing IPv6?

    no clue... AFAIK, none of the argus family is IPv6 capable...

    )\/(ark

    If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Björn Felten on Sat Nov 22 22:11:19 2014
    On 15.11.2014 20:31, Björn Felten -> All wrote:

    The question now is, how do I get this SOB to do outgoing IPv6?

    I can make outbound ipv6 polls from my os/2 system by using a squid proxy running in ipv6 windows box. You might use the same trick with radius?

    'Tommi

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Tommi Koivula on Sat Nov 22 21:51:48 2014
    The question now is, how do I get this SOB to do outgoing IPv6?

    I can make outbound ipv6 polls from my os/2 system by using a squid
    proxy running in ipv6 windows box. You might use the same trick with radius?

    From what I deduct from the rather bad HLP-file it should work with relay6. It works with incoming calls, it should work with outgoing. Theoretically... 8-)

    Alas, I do have the source code, as soon as I can find some spare time I'll see if I can spot what I'm missing in my different, failed config attempts.

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  • From Kees van Eeten@2:280/5006.4 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Nov 23 12:30:28 2014
    Hello Tommi!

    Saturday November 22 2014 22:11, you wrote to Bj÷rn Felten:

    I can make outbound ipv6 polls from my os/2 system by using a squid proxy running in ipv6 windows box. You might use the same trick with radius?

    I can imagine that that works for the adress range were ipv4 is a mirrored
    subset in ipv6 ( Michiel will give the proper name ), but outside that
    range? Do you need some sort of conversion table?

    The last time I looked at squid, was long before IPv6 was implemented in
    Linux.

    Kees

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Kees van Eeten on Sun Nov 23 21:06:34 2014
    On 23.11.2014 13:30, Kees van Eeten -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

    Saturday November 22 2014 22:11, you wrote to Björn Felten:

    I can make outbound ipv6 polls from my os/2 system by using a
    squid proxy
    running in ipv6 windows box. You might use the same trick with
    radius?

    I can imagine that that works for the adress range were ipv4 is a mirrored
    subset in ipv6 ( Michiel will give the proper name ), but outside that
    range? Do you need some sort of conversion table?


    Nothing special, when ipv4-only mailer (binkd/os2) tries to call you, it calls to "f5006.n280.z2.binkp.net" and the proxy will choose how to connect. Ipv6 preferred. ;)

    + 23 Nov 20:57:12 [22784] call to 2:280/5006@fidonet
    23 Nov 20:57:12 [22784] trying fido6.ddutch.nl via proxy 192.168.1.9:3128...
    23 Nov 20:57:12 [22784] connected
    23 Nov 20:57:12 [22784] connected to proxy 192.168.1.9:3128
    + 23 Nov 20:57:12 [22784] outgoing session with cow.localnet
    - 23 Nov 20:57:12 [22784] OPT CRAM-MD5-b7921540729a628b05f303331a3265ee
    + 23 Nov 20:57:12 [22784] Remote requests MD mode
    - 23 Nov 20:57:12 [22784] SYS Raspberry Fido
    - 23 Nov 20:57:12 [22784] ZYZ Kees van Eeten
    - 23 Nov 20:57:12 [22784] LOC Heerhugowaard, The Netherlands

    However, there seems to be a proxy bug in binkd -65.

    'Tommi

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Nov 23 20:16:47 2014
    Nothing special, when ipv4-only mailer (binkd/os2) tries to call you, it calls to "f5006.n280.z2.binkp.net" and the proxy will choose how to connect. Ipv6 preferred. ;)

    That's fine. As you probably know, I've managed to fix that (partly thanks to you) with relay6.

    But what about *your* mailer calling *out* ?

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Björn Felten on Sun Nov 23 21:23:40 2014
    On 23.11.2014 21:16, Björn Felten -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

    calls to "f5006.n280.z2.binkp.net" and the proxy will choose how to
    connect. Ipv6 preferred. ;)

    That's fine. As you probably know, I've managed to fix that (partly thanks to you) with relay6.

    Well that's good!

    But what about *your* mailer calling *out* ?

    What about it? 2:221/6 has a 'native' ipv6-capable mailer, binkd.

    'Tommi

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Nov 23 20:38:04 2014
    calls to "f5006.n280.z2.binkp.net" and the proxy will choose how to
    connect. Ipv6 preferred. ;)

    What about it? 2:221/6 has a 'native' ipv6-capable mailer, binkd.

    So why do you need the proxy you mention above?

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Bj÷rn Felten on Sun Nov 23 21:44:26 2014

    Sunday November 23 2014 20:38, Bj÷rn Felten wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    What about it? 2:221/6 has a 'native' ipv6-capable mailer, binkd.

    So why do you need the proxy you mention above?

    No, I do not _need_ it. But I _can_ do it if I ever need to send mail to ipv6-only node. Not very likely. :D

    'Tommi

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Nov 23 20:57:32 2014
    No, I do not _need_ it. But I _can_ do it if I ever need to send mail to ipv6-only node. Not very likely. :D

    Bloody show-off. 8-)

    Anyway, if you have some tips on how to use relay6 for outgoing traffic, I'm
    all ears. And, I'm sure, so are many other IPv6 striving sysops.

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Björn Felten on Mon Nov 24 17:05:04 2014
    On 23.11.2014 21:57, Björn Felten -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

    No, I do not _need_ it. But I _can_ do it if I ever need to send
    mail to ipv6-only node. Not very likely. :D

    Bloody show-off. 8-)

    B-)

    Anyway, if you have some tips on how to use relay6 for outgoing traffic, I'm all ears. And, I'm sure, so are many other IPv6 striving sysops.

    I haven't played that much with relay6 but I think you need to set up one relay6 session for each node you plan to poll. ;-)

    'Tommi

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Nov 25 03:33:55 2014
    I haven't played that much with relay6 but I think you need to set up
    one relay6 session for each node you plan to poll. ;-)

    Even so, I haven't managed to get the slightest life sign from any outgoing session no matter how I try.

    Any suggestion on how to at least get an error message or something would be
    nice.

    I appreciate that the program is 12 years old (very foreseeing of the author) and my attempts to reach him via email has bounced better than my outgoing IPv6 calls.

    What a pity. If it had worked bidirectionally all would be great. But the source code is such a mess I can't figure out how to correct it. :(

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360.8110 to Björn Felten on Tue Nov 25 07:31:06 2014
    * Originally in ARGUS
    * Crossposted in IPV6

    Hello Björn!

    25 Nov 14 03:33, you wrote to me:

    I haven't played that much with relay6 but I think you need to
    set up one relay6 session for each node you plan to poll. ;-)

    Even so, I haven't managed to get the slightest life sign from any outgoing session no matter how I try.

    You need to make relay6 to listen 127.0.0.1:someport and connect to the destination (for example cow.mine.nu:24554). And then make Radius to poll to 127.0.0.1:someport.

    And you need to duplicate this for every node you poll. Not very nice but it should work.

    'Tommi


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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Tue Nov 25 17:38:40 2014
    On 25.11.2014 4:33, Björn Felten -> Tommi Koivula wrote:
    I haven't played that much with relay6 but I think you need to set up
    one relay6 session for each node you plan to poll. ;-)

    Even so, I haven't managed to get the slightest life sign from any outgoing session no matter how I try.

    I believe I just polled your system by Radius. "localhost" seems to be problem,
    but I said:

    relay6.exe 1234 [2001:16d8:ff00:306::2] 24554 /b:192.168.1.4

    and made a node config 192.168.1.4:1234,BND .

    The LAN IPv4 address of this Windows7 computer is 192.168.4.

    Please check your logs. :)

    25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 Begin v4.011/09.03.2005,17:30(Alpha)
    25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 Running under: Windows NT 6.1 (build: 7601, Service Pack
    1)
    ^ 25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 Connect To 192.168.1.4 #1234
    25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 Establishing BinkP transfer protocol
    25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 M_NUL : OPT CRAM-MD5-68b587170cde6e310fe1bef522a80573
    = 25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 Station : West Swedish Net
    = 25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 Address : 2:203/0 2:203/2 2:20/0 2:2/2
    : 25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 SysOp : Björn Felten from Gothenburg
    : 25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 Number : 90.231.158.147
    : 25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 Flags : MO,CM,TCP,IFC,TEL,VMP,BND
    : 25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 Mailer : Radius/4.010/21.01.2005,13:56(Final-Release)/Win32 binkp/1.1
    = 25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 Time : Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:36:18 +0100
    25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 Non-password session
    @ 25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 Dbg: Blank M_OK message
    25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 Handshake time - 0 seconds
    25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 Nothing for them
    25-Nov-2014 18:36:20 SEND: End of batch
    25-Nov-2014 18:36:21 RECE: End of batch
    * 25-Nov-2014 18:36:21 Session completed successfully
    25-Nov-2014 18:36:21 End

    'Tommi

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Nov 25 18:02:25 2014
    relay6.exe 1234 [2001:16d8:ff00:306::2] 24554 /b:192.168.1.4

    Good Lord, it worked! Even with an URL rather than the IPv6 number!

    Typical, now that I've got binkd up and running for outbound mail. 8-)

    But thanks a million. it was the /b: switch that I obviously misunderstood from the so called docs.

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Björn Felten on Tue Nov 25 19:10:12 2014
    On 25.11.2014 19:02, Björn Felten -> Tommi Koivula wrote:

    relay6.exe 1234 [2001:16d8:ff00:306::2] 24554 /b:192.168.1.4

    Good Lord, it worked! Even with an URL rather than the IPv6 number!

    Yes. I first tried with URL, and to be sure, once again with IPv6 number. :)

    Typical, now that I've got binkd up and running for outbound mail.
    8-)

    But binkd is better, for sure! Using relay6 that way is definitely not the best
    way to do it. Radius and binkd can also work together without any problems.

    'Tommi

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Björn Felten on Fri Sep 11 08:25:01 2015
    Re: IPv6
    By: Björn Felten to Tommi Koivula on Sun Nov 23 2014 08:38 pm


    Björn,

    I recall a while back you said you'd gotten a copy of the Argus source and were looking at it, possibly to release some bugfixes? How is that going?

    Thanks,

    Kurt
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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Kurt Weiske on Fri Sep 11 19:24:27 2015
    I recall a while back you said you'd gotten a copy of the Argus source
    and were
    looking at it, possibly to release some bugfixes? How is that going?

    Not very well. I'm so pleased with binkd I lost interest in Argus.

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/701 to Björn Felten on Fri Sep 11 19:37:50 2015
    Hello Bj├╢rn,

    On 11 Sep 15 19:24, Bj├╢rn Felten wrote to Kurt Weiske:

    Not very well. I'm so pleased with binkd I lost interest in Argus.

    LOL!

    Sorry. I really did laugh. While the old software is still great, it usually doesn't have the features of the new stuff. Adding them all would be a hassle while trying to cypher someone else's code. I most likely would have done the same. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Dale Shipp on Tue Sep 15 06:55:40 2015
    Re: Re: Argus updates?
    By: Dale Shipp to Nicholas Boel on Tue Sep 15 2015 01:26 am

    I have been using Argus for years without much problem. I have noticed some quirks though. Most annoying is that it does not seem to read the abbreviations in the nodelist and if I want to connect to another
    system, I have to make manual substitutions such as BND for IBN. Since
    the number of nodes I might want to connect with is small and relatively unchanging, that only needs to be done once in a while.

    Radius has a setting called "Use Nodelist Data" that seems to read the current nodelist flags well -- otherwise, you can download the ARGUS.TXT file from the I-ARGUS file echo; it's an Argus-formatted file that you include under Config->TCP/IP Daemon->Nodes->Auxiliary nodes file.

    At least that's how it is in Radius.
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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/701 to Dale Shipp on Tue Sep 15 16:27:54 2015
    Hello Dale,

    On 15 Sep 15 01:26, Dale Shipp wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    I have been using Argus for years without much problem. I have
    noticed some quirks though. Most annoying is that it does not seem to read the abbreviations in the nodelist and if I want to connect to
    another system, I have to make manual substitutions such as BND for
    IBN. Since the number of nodes I might want to connect with is small
    and relatively unchanging, that only needs to be done once in a while.

    I do think it's nice that some mailers were created to actually work with the nodelist, rather than forget about it completely. Binkd kind of went off and did it's own thing. Then again, not having to rely on a nodelist to keep things
    up-to-date or working properly is kinda nice, too.

    The best part I think in all of this is that we've had developers in the past and present to give us choices in what we want to use. Whatever works best for you, go with it.

    Regards,
    Nick

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