I've now managed to close down my FrontDoor, previously only used as an event scheduler, and "converted" the events to cron in Argus.

But I miss a semaphore file for e.g. starting a toss/scan without having to wait for an incoming mail package. More specifically when someone has written a
message on my JamNNTPd server I used to put an fdxit2.60 file in FrontDoor's SEM folder to have it exit with errorcode 60, that starts the toss/scan.

In Argus' help file there's no mentioning of any such function, anybody with
an idea?

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Björn Felten wrote to All:

But I miss a semaphore file for e.g. starting a toss/scan
without having to wait for an incoming mail package. More
specifically when someone has written a message on my JamNNTPd
server I used to put an fdxit2.60 file in FrontDoor's SEM folder to
have it exit with errorcode 60, that starts the toss/scan.

my FD's haven't exited to toss/scan new mail since the early '90s... there's been no need to do that since i put all that functionality in another script file outside of the one controlling my FDs... with that said...

In Argus' help file there's no mentioning of any such function,
anybody with an idea?

set your cron to execute an external task which runs a script... have the script look for the semaphore of your choice... if it exists, process the mail otherwise exit the script... you'll probably want to have the script create its
own busy file and check for that first so that you don't have two instances of the script trying to run at the same time... set the cronjob to run every minute, or five minutes or whenever...

note that the above also means that users might have their mail sent before they get a change to delete or rewrite it if they change their minds about something in it ;)

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set the cronjob to run every minute, or five minutes or whenever...

I was hoping for a more elegant way, but if there's no semaphore file for Argus that does the job (like e.g. the semaphore file for nodelist update), I guess that's my only option. :(

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Björn Felten wrote to mark lewis:

set the cronjob to run every minute, or five minutes or whenever...

I was hoping for a more elegant way,

sadly, that is elegance in today's world... definitely what one has to do in the *nix world since they also don't seem to have any schedulers that react when a semaphore is created... you gotta waste resources firing a script and letting it look to see if there's anything for it to do...

but if there's no semaphore file for Argus that does the job (like
e.g. the semaphore file for nodelist update), I guess that's my
only option. :(

argus doesn't exit for the nodelist compilation... it uses its internal compiler... it doesn't know anything about tossing mail so you would have to trigger it externally anyway... if argus could detect the semaphore, the best it could do might be to trigger the external tossing script or possibly create another semaphore to start it by some other means but since it doesn't, you have to use something else...

you don't even have to use argus' cron to fire a scheduled job if you have something else that can fire tasks when they see a semaphore... on OS/2 i use wcron which is one of the only schedulers i've found that can do this... i have
no clue what else may be available... only that there's no reason to get the mailer involved other than possibly firing a scheduled cron job... you could use some other scheduler to fire the script, too... even the windows one if that's the world your system is operating in...

i've even seen systems that have a script that runs all the time from startup... the script basically sleeps all the time and wakes occasionally to look for a semaphore before executing the task or going back to sleep...

you'd have this same ""problem"" if you were running binkd, too...

kinda makes one miss the days of traditional mailers with their features and advanced capabilities, eh? ;)

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Hello mark!

29 Oct 14 17:37, you wrote to Björn Felten:

sadly, that is elegance in today's world... definitely what one has to
do in the *nix world since they also don't seem to have any schedulers that react when a semaphore is created... you gotta waste resources
firing a script and letting it look to see if there's anything for it
to do...

incorrect, in Linux there is "incron"..

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that react when a semaphore is created... you gotta waste resources
firing a script and letting it look to see if there's anything for it to do...

Yep. Got myself a batch file

if not exist r:\sem\fdxit2.60 goto end
call 60
del r:\sem\fdxit2.60
:end

... that's croned to 0-59/2

argus doesn't exit for the nodelist compilation... it uses its internal compiler...

I know, but it can act when it finds a semaphore file. It would be easy to have it run an external when it finds one too. Alas, your suggested solution seems to work, so that's fine with me.

kinda makes one miss the days of traditional mailers with their features and advanced capabilities, eh? ;)

Hehehe... Nah, I love the present situation too much.

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Ross Cassell wrote to mark lewis:

sadly, that is elegance in today's world... definitely what one
has to do in the *nix world since they also don't seem to have any schedulers that react when a semaphore is created... you gotta
waste resources firing a script and letting it look to see if
there's anything for it to do...

incorrect, in Linux there is "incron"..

i've never heard of it with all the searches i've done over the years... i guess i'll have to try to find some time to check it out...

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i've never heard of it with all the searches i've done over the years...

Neither have I, but looking at the man file, it looks like it's doing exactly what we've been talking about. Thanks Ross for the tip!

I wonder if JoHo will get credit for implementing the idea already some 20 years ago? 8-)

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Hi! Bj├╢rn,

On 30/10/2014 4:26 AM, you wrote:

I've now managed to close down my FrontDoor, previously only used as an event scheduler, and "converted" the events to cron in Argus.

Congratulations! 8-)

But I miss a semaphore file for e.g. starting a toss/scan without having to wait for an incoming mail package. More specifically when someone has written a message on my JamNNTPd server I used to put an fdxit2.60 file in FrontDoor's SEM folder to have it exit with errorcode 60, that starts the toss/scan.

Simply put the semaphore file to where Argus expects it...

In Argus' help file there's no mentioning of any such function, anybody with an idea?

Do you have an option in Argus like so...

Config-->Externals-->Flags

If so, then here's your chance. Simply fill the grid with the location of where JamNNTPd shoves the semaphore file, and then with what FroDo used to do.
Easy peasy.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Do you have an option in Argus like so...

Externals-->>> Flags

Unfortunately not. I guess this is one of the shortcomings that the Radius crew fixed?

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Hello mark!

29 Oct 14 20:06, you wrote to me:

incorrect, in Linux there is "incron"..

i've never heard of it with all the searches i've done over the
years... i guess i'll have to try to find some time to check it out...

Its been around for a while, I used it extensively during a time period when I was hubbing under linux (not this period). While I am under Linux now I am not using it but I was sure to apt-get it in.

I hope you are not still using the search engines with them old time operands?

Just ask them a question.

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Hi! Bj├╢rn,

On 30/10/14 11:13, you wrote:

Do you have an option in Argus like so...

Externals-->>>> Flags

Unfortunately not. I guess this is one of the shortcomings that
the Radius crew fixed?

Yep. That's one of the reasons I've said all along that Radius is the ultimate
Argus version. Please accept my sympathies for still running Argus. 8-)

Cheers,
Paul.

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On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Paul Quinn wrote to Björn Felten:

Do you have an option in Argus like so...

Config-->Externals-->Flags

If so, then here's your chance. Simply fill the grid with the
location of where JamNNTPd shoves the semaphore file, and then with
what FroDo used to do. Easy peasy.

interesting and i'll be damned... sorry, björn! i did actually look all over what docs i have (not fully translated from russian or ukrainian) for taurus as
well as digging about in taurus' settings and i didn't find that... ::oops:: :/


)\/(ark

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Ross Cassell wrote to mark lewis:

incorrect, in Linux there is "incron"..

i've never heard of it with all the searches i've done over the
years... i guess i'll have to try to find some time to check it out...

Its been around for a while, I used it extensively during a time
period when I was hubbing under linux (not this period). While I am
under Linux now I am not using it but I was sure to apt-get it in.

i looked at a couple of things briefly about it and it appeared to be some sort
of special library... something about creating an instance of "foo" and then using that... i'm looking for a simply cron type applicatio nwhere i can list times of execution as well as being able to list a semaphore file name with which to trigger an execution...

I hope you are not still using the search engines with them old
time operands?

i've never used operands, really... i just type in the key words i'm looking for information on...

eg: semaphore files scheduler

Just ask them a question.

yeah, i never liked those common language engines, either ;)

)\/(ark

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On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Paul Quinn wrote to Bj÷rn Felten:

Do you have an option in Argus like so...

Externals-->>>> Flags

Unfortunately not. I guess this is one of the shortcomings that
the Radius crew fixed?

Yep. That's one of the reasons I've said all along that Radius is
the ultimate Argus version.

i guess that makes taurus the ultimate radius version? O:)

Please accept my sympathies for still running Argus. 8-)

i'm not going to say it :lol:

)\/(ark

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i'm not going to say it :lol:

Say what? If it aint broken, don't fix it? 8-)

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Hi! mark,

On 30/10/2014 2:27 PM, you wrote:

Yep. That's one of the reasons I've said all along that Radius is
the ultimate Argus version.

i guess that makes taurus the ultimate radius version? O:)

You could say that. I wouldn't. Taurus is something else; an answer to a question that no one ever asked (besides Alex), based on Radius. Much like Trapgate; totally freakish.

Please accept my sympathies for still running Argus. 8-)

i'm not going to say it :lol:

No guts. 8-)

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hi! Bj├╢rn,

On 31/10/2014 7:20 AM, you wrote:

i'm not going to say it :lol:

Say what? If it aint broken, don't fix it? 8-)

Pardon? We just found something broken. Not enough file-flags (AKA semaphores). :)

Why not try Radius again? It's a swap in/swap out replacement for Argus. Yes,
there are instructions for both a trial and a retraction in the final archive.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Say what? If it aint broken, don't fix it? 8-)

Pardon? We just found something broken. Not enough file-flags (AKA semaphores). :)

Dunno if I would call it broken. A lack of functionality isn't exactly the same, is it? And today it performs exactly the way I want it to.

Why not try Radius again? It's a swap in/swap out replacement for Argus. Yes, there are instructions for both a trial and a retraction in the
final archive.

I've tried Radius over and over again, but it still doesn't do the same thing that Argus does -- without a lot of tweaking. I'm simply too old for tweaking my FTN system any more... 8-)

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Hi! Bj├╢rn,

On 31/10/2014 9:02 AM, you wrote:

I've tried Radius over and over again, but it still doesn't do the same thing that Argus does -- without a lot of tweaking. I'm simply too old for tweaking my FTN system any more... 8-)

Crap. No guts. You have my sympathy.

Cheers,
Paul.

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can you be more secific? when i installed radius it did everything that argus did out of the box with no tweaking...

Maybe your Argus settings were so rudimentary that you didn't notice? 8-)

Absolutely nothing was imported/re-used from Argus. Well, the passwords were, but as far as I could see nothing else.

Just having to reconfigure all my External settings would take all day, and then I'll never know for sure if it works OK for at least another 24 hours (in some cases a week).

Not to mention all my Line settings for the modem and the IP line, with all the allow and disallow flags, nodes, init strings, etc, etc.

Nah, I'll stick with Argus for now.

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On Sat, 15 Nov 2014, Björn Felten wrote to mark lewis:

can you be more secific? when i installed radius it did everything
that argus did out of the box with no tweaking...

Maybe your Argus settings were so rudimentary that you didn't
notice? 8-)

no... radius and taurus use the same config files as argus... switching between
them is as easy as stopping one and starting the other... providing, of course,
that all the binaries are in the same directory...

Absolutely nothing was imported/re-used from Argus. Well, the
passwords were, but as far as I could see nothing else.

you could have copied the argus stuff to another directory and put the radius binary in the original directory and started it up... it would have been exactly the same as argus other than the bug fixes and new features...

Just having to reconfigure all my External settings would take
all day, and then I'll never know for sure if it works OK for at
least another 24 hours (in some cases a week).

you /don't/ have to do that at all... they use the exact same config files... everything is the same except for maybe some new settings being added...

Not to mention all my Line settings for the modem and the IP
line, with all the allow and disallow flags, nodes, init strings,
etc, etc.

there's nothing to change or reconfigure... archive your existing setup or copy
it to another directory and then try with the new binary... if it works, great!
if it doesn't the remove the radius or taurus binaries and copy or unarchive the old config stuff back over the top and carry on... it isn't rocket science ;)

Nah, I'll stick with Argus for now.

alright... whatever ;)

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they use the exact same config files... everything is the same except
for maybe some new settings being added...

If you say so.

Needless to say I *did* start up Radius in my Argus directory -- with Argus closed down of course.

I then went ahead to check all my settings and nothing was but default settings -- except for the passwords and my AKAs.

Alas, maybe there's some newer version of Radius that does all the things you claim it will?

2003-01-02 00:28 1 831 936 radius.exe

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you could have copied the argus stuff to another directory and put the radius binary in the original directory and started it up... it would
have been exactly the same as argus other than the bug fixes and new features...

I stand corrected, with my size 42 (EU size) foot in my mouth. Sorry Mark!

What I *should* have done in the first place was of course to delete the old
radius.ini (from my first attempt 11 years ago) from my folder.

Once I did that, I got all Russian characters all over the place.

Alas, I edited the radius.ini line under [interface] to "language=2" and now
I'm actually running Radius here.

I'll keep you posted...

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Hi! Bj├╢rn,

On 16/11/2014 3:07 AM, you wrote:

Alas, maybe there's some newer version of Radius that does all the things you claim it will?

2003-01-02 00:28 1 831 936 radius.exe

That's an old binary from the Radius 4.009-29.12.02 version, from 2003.

You need the last version for Radius 4.010-2005/01/05, from 2005. I'll put the
ZIP on hold for you to pickup. It seems to be an amalgam of a couple of RARs I've used on my system.

Cheers,
Paul.

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You need the last version for Radius 4.010-2005/01/05, from 2005. I'll put the ZIP on hold for you to pickup. It seems to be an amalgam of a couple of RARs I've used on my system.

Thanks muchly!

It seemed more potent, yes. Unfortunately the help files didn't work, but I can live with that.

The only thing that wasn't imported from Argus properly seems to have been the paths. Unfortunately. After more than six hours of no mail, I found all the
incoming pkt files in two default areas that my tosser didn't know of. Easy fix.

And the semaphore files work like a charm!

Dunno what to use the hydra function for, though. Once a spectacular invention (by JoHo?) but now rather obsolete...? 8-)

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Now, if only you could add a CM flag to your nodelist entry, so that the mail to you get sent immediately without having to wait for your ZMH, all would be back to normal.

I don't remember how I fixed this in Argus... :(

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I don't remember how I fixed this in Argus... :(

Ahhh... I found it (under restrictions).

But I still think you should have the CM flag if your system accepts mail 24h.

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Ahhh... I found it (under restrictions).

Nah, that can't be it. Removing the CM flag from the restrictions means I'll
not respect the few remaining systems that actually are *not* CM.

Alas, the search goes on...

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Hi! Bj├╢rn,

On 16/11/2014 12:07 PM, you wrote:

You need the last version for Radius 4.010-2005/01/05, from 2005.

It seemed more potent, yes. Unfortunately the help files didn't
work, but I can live with that.

They/it ought to work fine with a left double-click in a Total Commander panel.
;)

I could bundle all of the help-type files I have here in my Radius dir, if you'd like. Even a PDF that I created once from who-knows-what source.

The only thing that wasn't imported from Argus properly seems to
have been the paths. Unfortunately. After more than six hours of no
mail, I found all the incoming pkt files in two default areas that my tosser didn't know of. Easy fix.

Bummer. It got confused maybe with some old binary config file or an errant INI file.[shrug]

And the semaphore files work like a charm!

Don't they ever. I love my semaphore files in Radius. When my Win98SE & Fidonet setup was on a real PC, I used to control its operation from my Puppy Linux PC through semaphores (mirroring my old BATch scripts with new bash scripts). I could cause a Radius re-start remotely, even. 8-)

Dunno what to use the hydra function for, though. Once a spectacular invention (by JoHo?) but now rather obsolete...? 8-)

I dunno know either. Though, I do remember having to use an override for it for one particular node.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hi! Bj├╢rn,

On 16/11/2014 12:31 PM, you wrote:

Now, if only you could add a CM flag to your nodelist entry, so that the mail to you get sent immediately without having to wait for your ZMH,
all would be back to normal.

I'll try to remember to fix this the next time our region segment changes for some other reason.

I don't remember how I fixed this in Argus... :(

Radius-->Config-->Node inspector. (Find my node's (password) entry, i.e. there
should already be an override record.) Enter the TCP/IP override: "quinnspost.nodelist.net",CM,IBN

That's what I do for that sort of problem. I'm kinda surprised to hear that Argus could do it but Radius can't, with the same nodelist entry. It might have
to do with the timing of the ICM flag's progress through the FTSC bureaucracy.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Config-->>> Node inspector.

Far too complicated for a newbie like me. :)

I used to go to Config -> TCP/IP Daemon -> Nodes to manually enter URL and flags (including CM). But I didn't have your system there. So obviously I managed to get the mail to you 24h some other way.

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Hi! Bj├╢rn,

On 16/11/2014 1:24 PM, you wrote:

I used to go to Config -> TCP/IP Daemon -> Nodes to manually enter
URL and flags (including CM). But I didn't have your system there. So obviously I managed to get the mail to you 24h some other way.

Ahmm... my node is rendered as 'immediate' in your Squish or CrashMail configuration? 8-)

Cheers,
Paul.

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Ahmm... my node is rendered as 'immediate' in your Squish or CrashMail configuration? 8-)

Squish makes it crash, but Radius respects your ZMH request. Argus did not, with the alternate setting that I obviously thought of when first we started exchanging mail some ten years ago. The CM problem existed already then, I only
didn't think of telling you about it... 8-)

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They/it ought to work fine with a left double-click in a Total Commander panel. ;)

They do. But I would like it to work from inside Radius too -- like I get in
Argus.

Radius is obviously trying to find 'radiusen.hlp' and don't know how to use 'radiusen.chm'.

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Hi! Bj├╢rn,

On 16/11/2014 2:02 PM, you wrote:

They/it ought to work fine with a left double-click in a Total
Commander panel. ;)

They do. But I would like it to work from inside Radius too -- like
I get in Argus.

Mine is just the Argus HLP file renamed.

Radius is obviously trying to find 'radiusen.hlp' and don't know how to use 'radiusen.chm'.

Just a double-click in TC. Tada. :)

Cheers,
Paul.

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On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Bj÷rn Felten wrote to Paul Quinn:

Now, if only you could add a CM flag to your nodelist entry, so
that the mail to you get sent immediately without having to wait
for your ZMH, all would be back to normal.

I don't remember how I fixed this in Argus... :(

there's like three or four ways to get to the overrides for each node... i use the CTRL-T -> NODES tab override grid to place the overrides i need...

3:640/384 "quinnspost.nodelist.net",CM,IBN

the only problem with the above is if/when that FQDN changes... BUT i think i found a way to handle that in the taurus docs for the overrides section... if i
am reading the following correctly, one can use the FTN address in the override
field...

3:640/384 3:640/384,CM,IBN

i just tested this override and it works fine... it takes the FQDN from the nodlist as it should and then overrides the flags so that the CM is used... i haven't checked (yet) if this 2009 v5.101 taurus handles the ICM flag... before
i was using the 2006 v5.001 taurus... and then just today i've found out that there's a v5.114 2013 version of taurus out there some where... i'm on the hunt
for that now...

anyway, see the "or indirectly" example in the 6th paragraph below... this whole section is everything needed to know for node overrides ;)

[quote google translate of taurus docs]
Nodes
Grid overrides TCP / IP nodes, which can be overridden for a node, one or more IP-Adros, ports or protocols. You can also override the flags and runtime node,
instead of the listed IP - nodes.

Table overrides TCP / IP nodes is similar to the table overrides modem nodes.

You can work with the Taurus without a list IP-nodes, pointing here IP-addresses of nodes on which you usually call.

Format override the node address, flags. One redefinition can contain multiple nodes, listed by a space.

Node operating on IP, must contain one of the dedicated TCP / IP-flags. In this
Taurus will produce a connection attempt on all of the flags of protocols in the following order: BinkP, Raw, Telnet.

Address to override can be set both in digital and in character (DNS) form, that is, as the name of an Internet host. To specify the address in symbolic form it must be enclosed in quotation marks: "fido.ritlabs.com",CM,IFC. The address can be specified directly (eg 193.219.215.111,CM,IFC) or indirectly (for example, 5:133/555,CM,IFC), in the latter case the number is removed from the current list of nodes. To override the IP-port value specified after his address through an underscore: "fido.ritlabs.com"_23,CM,IFC or "193.219.215.111"_23,CM,IFC

The line input Auxiliary Nodes File, you can specify the path to the additional
overrides TCP / IP-nodes that will be used in addition to these in the grid. The file format is as follows (the override one node per line):


Address | Overrides

Additional file overrides loaded into memory at startup Taurus, as well as detecting flag file IPOVR.OK in Home Directory. The results are reflected in the download file prozvonok chronology.

Consider the case where a node is not in the list of nodes, or in the DNS, but you asked the address of its host without flags indicating the work. The implication is that a node can only receive calls in ZMH (a point at all). Therefore, the appearance package with priority Crash or Direct to send buffer will serve Taurus signal to establish outgoing connections to the node only in its ZMH. Point C in this case Taurus generally will not try to establish an outgoing connection. Continuity can not also occur due to the fact that flags the node is not fully spelled out, and / or can not comply with the conditions limiting prozvonok.
[/quote]



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If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.

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i use the CTRL-T -> NODES tab override grid to place the overrides i need...

3:640/384 "quinnspost.nodelist.net",CM,IBN

That's what I used to do in Argus. But all of a sudden, when changing to Radius, a couple of packages started waiting for the respective ZMH -- and I found out that I did not have them in my Nodes tab with the CM override!

So obviously I managed to find another way 13 or so years ago...

the only problem with the above is if/when that FQDN changes...

Exactly! I want to remove as many lines as possible from my Nodes tab, not add new ones.

Alas, that is how I've done it now.

think i found a way to handle that in the taurus docs for the overrides section... if i am reading the following correctly, one can use the FTN address in the override field...

3:640/384 3:640/384,CM,IBN

Hmmm... Sounds interesting. Once I've finished rebuilding my bathroom, I'll try that out. 8-)

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Hi! mark,

On 16/11/2014 1:18 PM, you wrote:

there's like three or four ways to get to the overrides for each node...
i use the CTRL-T -> NODES tab override grid to place the overrides i need...

3:640/384 "quinnspost.nodelist.net",CM,IBN

the only problem with the above is if/when that FQDN changes... BUT i think i found a way to handle that in the taurus docs for the overrides section... if i am reading the following correctly, one can use the FTN address in the override field...

3:640/384 3:640/384,CM,IBN

I use similar in my Radius for one of the other nodes in Net640, in conjunction
with his dotted quad. It goes like this...

3:640/999 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx,CM,IBN[space]3:640/999,CM,IBN

That way, considering its other settings, Radius attempts connections via either addressing methods for 10 tries then rests for an hour before trying again. It works out that each address is attempted 5 times an hour. :)

Cheers,
Paul.

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3:640/384 3:640/384,CM,IBN

I use similar in my Radius for one of the other nodes in Net640,

OK. You two have convinced me once again. I'm now trying the above idea for exactly the node number that Mark suggests. Let's see if you're gonna be starved out of Fidoweb mail the next half dozen hours or so... 8-)

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3:640/384 3:640/384,CM,IBN

I use similar in my Radius for one of the other nodes in Net640,

WOW! You two are true geniuses! It worked!

It worked well as a kludge to override the result of sloppy nodelist clerks,
who hasn't heard of the CM flag. Nyah nyah... 8-)

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On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Björn Felten wrote to Paul Quinn:

3:640/384 3:640/384,CM,IBN

I use similar in my Radius for one of the other nodes in Net640,

WOW! You two are true geniuses! It worked!

It worked well as a kludge to override the result of sloppy
nodelist clerks, who hasn't heard of the CM flag. Nyah nyah... 8-)

hahaha... ICM is starting to be used for internet nodes and CM for dialups... slowly... even though CM covers both and ICM can be left out... CM can be left out for dialup if it is not online 24x7 and ICM used for the internet side which is online 24x7... granted, this may not be how ICM is written to be used but i've seen it used like this in the past few years... nowhere near any level
of usage to warrant changing the documentation yet, though... but as long as usage changes the documented specification, anything can happen ;)

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but as long as usage changes the documented specification, anything can happen ;)

Amen to that! :)

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