Hi all,

Anyone know if Argus can be compiled with free tools?

I want to have a crack at adding IPv6 support...


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Hello Scott!

27 May 14 10:17, you wrote to All:

Anyone know if Argus can be compiled with free tools?

I want to have a crack at adding IPv6 support...

Last I heard it was compiled with Delphi???? Alex shakhaylo is on facebook, and

of course you might be able to quiz the original author at ritlabs.com?

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[ On 2014-05-26 at 21:52:12, Ross Cassell wrote to Scott Little ]

Last I heard it was compiled with Delphi????

The docs say Delphi 5, BCC32i and TASM32.

Lazarus (FreePascal) is Delphi compatible (to what degree, I don't know). Don't know about the others, or how to integrate them.


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Hi! Scott,

In a message to Ross Cassell you wrote:

The docs say Delphi 5, BCC32i and TASM32.
Lazarus (FreePascal) is Delphi compatible (to what degree, I don't
know). Don't know about the others, or how to integrate them.

Will you be fixing the nodelist parsing code in Argus? I mean this was already

done in Radius. E.g. no need for a 'Argus TCP/IP nodelist' at all. It was on par with FTSC nodelist-related stuff until the stuff-up with the Tyz flag being

disassociated from the ",U," prefix.

Why Argus? Why not start with the Radius source(s)?

Cheers,
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On Tue, 27 May 2014, Scott Little wrote to All:

Anyone know if Argus can be compiled with free tools?

you might give it a try with freepascal and lazarus... i know that some stuff will be hinky (eg: jedi library usage) and porting it to other OSes won't be fun...

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[ On 2014-05-27 at 14:23:00, Paul Quinn wrote to Scott Little ]

Why Argus? Why not start with the Radius source(s)?

I've always used Argus, never had any need for other versions.

Where can I get the Radius sourcs?


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Hi! Scott,

On Thu, 29 May 14, you wrote to me:

Why Argus? Why not start with the Radius source(s)?

I've always used Argus, never had any need for other versions.

It's just an idea. Most of the fixes cleanup was done eight years ago. Why re-invent? When IPv6 starts pushing the need, I'll probably opt for my Linux binkD config since Win98 just won't ever do it. :)

Where can I get the Radius sourcs?

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=94644

That will bump to their page (Argus & Radius).

Cheers,
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On Thu, 29 May 2014, Paul Quinn wrote to Scott Little:

Where can I get the Radius sourcs?

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=94644

That will bump to their page (Argus & Radius).

and click on the bob_bahk user link at the top will take you to his page which also links to the taurus code... in fact, it looks like he has copies of each of the mailers but there's still some work left to be done... i'm still, after all these years, working on translating the help files to english but the going

is extremely slow :/

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Most of the fixes cleanup was done eight years ago.

Typical old farts. Hey! Eight years ago was six years ago, today it's almost

14 years ago. 8-)


Tommi Koivula -> Steven Leeman wrote 2000-10-17 20:33:

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Steven Leeman wrote:

at www.pcmicro.com/bbs at a 10days new file search I came accross RAD
which
uses the Argus sources... it's russian so I'm not quiet aware what it has
added to the program...

Just installed it parallel to Argus. Works like Argus. :)

Too bad all documents are russian. :(

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[ On 2014-05-29 at 14:55:00, Paul Quinn wrote to Scott Little ]

It's just an idea. Most of the fixes cleanup was done eight years
ago. Why re-invent?

Cleanup?

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=94644

Well, it's not obvious how to compile it with Lazarus.. so, meh. That'll be one of those Round Tuit kind of projects...


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Hi! Bj÷rn,

On Thu, 29 May 14, you wrote to me:

Most of the fixes cleanup was done eight years ago.

Typical old farts. Hey! Eight years ago was six years ago, today
it's almost 14 years ago. 8-)

Well, I was referring to the date of the last Radius version... mmm... almost.

Now, I see that it's dated January 2005! Make that nine years since Argus was last fixed! :)

Tommi Koivula -> Steven Leeman wrote 2000-10-17 20:33:

(Most of the following quote attribution were wrong; they should have indicated

Tommi as the 'speaker'.)

What did Tommi say about his Radius operation? Mmm... I must go back and look harder...

Cheers,
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Hi! mark,

On Thu, 29 May 14, you wrote to me:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=94644
That will bump to their page (Argus & Radius).

and click on the bob_bahk user link at the top will take you to his
page which also links to the taurus code...

Ooh. I'm suffering from tunnel vision; I usually only concentrate on Radius-related stuff. :)

in fact, it looks like he has copies of each of the mailers but
there's still some work left to be done... i'm still, after all these years, working on translating the help files to english but the going
is extremely slow :/

Okay. Have you thought to ask young Alexander? That's how he spends about a third of his daily life: translating Russian to English texts.

Cheers,
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Hi! Scott,

On Thu, 29 May 14, you wrote to me:

It's just an idea. Most of the fixes cleanup was done eight
years ago. Why re-invent?

Cleanup?

Not sure, besides the fact that if there were no fixes then there wouldn't have

been a doover called Radius. Check the history.eng file in any archive, with the latest bringing-up the latest work of course. You're more likely to spot the differences from Argus than I, and discount similarities between the two.

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=94644

Well, it's not obvious how to compile it with Lazarus.. so, meh.
That'll be one of those Round Tuit kind of projects...

Lazarus... mmm... Cold Lazarus... neat BBC TV series, once upon a time. I don't know that, to which you refer. Oops. Sorry.

Cheers,
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his page which also links to the taurus code...

Interesting! On his Taurus part he also has all the missing pieces from Delphi, that once prevented me from compiling Argus. With detailed installation

instructions for all flavours of Delphi.

Thanks for the tip!

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Typical old farts. Hey! Eight years ago was six years ago, today
it's almost 14 years ago. 8-)

Well, I was referring to the date of the last Radius version... mmm... almost. Now, I see that it's dated January 2005! Make that nine years since Argus was last fixed! :)

Negatory. Argus haven't been fixed at all after Radius was released (October

2000) IFAIK.

What did Tommi say about his Radius operation? Mmm... I must go back and look harder...

LOL! Yeah, it's nice to have almost nostalgic archives on your JamNNTPd server. My messagebase here, in this echo, dates back to early 2000, and it's a

lot of fun to see that many of the participants by then are still around and kicking.

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Hi! Björn,

On 30/05/14 03:17, you wrote:

Make that nine years since Argus was last fixed! :)

Negatory. Argus haven't been fixed at all after Radius was
released (October 2000) IFAIK.

Check it again: Radius' maintenance started with the Argus 3.210 codebase, so its last release is the ultimate Argus fix. 8-)

What did Tommi say about his Radius operation? Mmm... I must go
back and look harder...

LOL! Yeah, it's nice to have almost nostalgic archives on your JamNNTPd server. My messagebase here, in this echo, dates back to
early 2000, and it's a lot of fun to see that many of the participants
by then are still around and kicking.

It's been quite a while. So long that it seems Tommi now no longer dabbles in Windows-ie stuff, and hasn't posted herewith for over 12 years. No report on his findings or losses with his experiment. Well, "no news is good news" they say. :)

Cheers,
Paul.

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On Thu, 29 May 2014, Björn Felten wrote to mark lewis:

his page which also links to the taurus code...

Interesting! On his Taurus part he also has all the missing
pieces from Delphi, that once prevented me from compiling Argus.
With detailed installation instructions for all flavours of Delphi.

if you are referencing the jedi stuffs, you may not want them... especially if you are trying to compile with FPC and/or Lazarus RAD...

Thanks for the tip!

welcome...

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[ On 2014-05-29 at 21:36:00, Paul Quinn wrote to Scott Little ]

Cleanup?

Not sure, besides the fact that if there were no fixes then there
wouldn't have been a doover called Radius.

I was thinking Radius was more "new features" than "code cleanup" or re-architecting. Seems there was.. I see mention of INI files and whatnot.


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Hi! Scott,

On Fri, 30 May 14, you wrote to me:

Not sure, besides the fact that if there were no fixes then
there wouldn't have been a doover called Radius.

I was thinking Radius was more "new features" than "code cleanup" or re-architecting. Seems there was.. I see mention of INI files and whatnot.

Dunno about the 'whatnot'. :) Any .ini files are auto-created by Radius IIRC.

You can ignore them completely or twiddle with some settings. YMMV.

Cheers,
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if you are referencing the jedi stuffs,

Nah, the DelZip package.

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On Fri, 30 May 2014, Björn Felten wrote to mark lewis:

if you are referencing the jedi stuffs,

Nah, the DelZip package.

oh... yeah, i've been playing with the sources off and on for over a year using

lazarus and fpc... i'm not even using the delzip or jedi crap when i come across it... they are being replaced with existing library routines, rewritten or removed as unneeded ;)

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On Fri, 30 May 2014, Paul Quinn wrote to Scott Little:

Not sure, besides the fact that if there were no fixes then
there wouldn't have been a doover called Radius.

I was thinking Radius was more "new features" than "code cleanup" or re-architecting. Seems there was.. I see mention of INI files and whatnot.

Dunno about the 'whatnot'. :) Any .ini files are auto-created by
Radius IIRC. You can ignore them completely or twiddle with some settings. YMMV.

i can't remember if my memory sequence was ART or RAT to keep them straight for

the original to the second and then Taurus which i know was third... i keep wanting to say that Argus was first and then Radius... especially when i have this readme in my OLDRADIUS directory...

ENG:
If you update from the other Argus clone or Argus
or from Radius version less than 4.009-23.06.2002
then you SHOULD *recompile* your nodelists!!

[time passes]

ahh! digging about, i found a FAQ in my oldradius directory...

1.1 Q: Radius vs Argus. Differences, advantages, disadvantages.
A: Radius is based on Argus version 3.210 code. It implements all
the same functions as Argus does. A lot of parameters are moved
to a text configuration file from the Windows registry (HOMEDIR
for example). Thus you can use independent settings on the same
computer without changing the "home path" parameter in the
registry. Also some features were added and some Argus bugs
fixed. You may read this in HISTORY file. These are Radius
advantages. Its disadvantages are its own bugs, full adapted
help and support absences.

sadly i don't have a similar TAURUSFAQ file... oh well...

so the phrase to remember is "They are a work of ART" ;)

on-topicizer: to answer your question, yes, radius introduced the ini files... argus stored everything in the registry...

[quote="radius/history.eng"] ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════

Radius history by
Denis Voituk [2:5012/38, radius<at>5076.ru]

══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════ Marks:

[!] Huge addition or change.
[+] Addition.
[#] Change.
[*] Interface fix/change.
[-] Bugfix.

══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════

────────────────────┬───────────────────────────────────────────────────── 4.010 (Apr-May-2002)│ Middle May Beta
────────────────────┘
[...] ───────────────────┬────────────────────────────────────────────────────── 4.007 (02-Apr-2001)│
───────────────────┘
[!] Radius is now base on Argus 3.210. See. its history.*

[+] Atom "Wait for connect". It overrides the value of a timedial var from
an inifile.

[*] Some fixes in languages.

[-] Externals didn't start from the "External tools" tab. Fixed.

───────────────────┬────────────────────────────────────────────────────── 4.007 (25-Mar-2001)│ beta 1
───────────────────┘
[!] Many options are moved to inifile.

[!] To start Radius not from homedir you need:

a) to put radius.ini to the dir from which you start Radius
b) to start Radius -I:<full path to inifile>

This appeared because of moving a path to home dir to inifile.

[+] Now the width of columns in BadWazoo and Polls is saved.

[+] MainWindow sizes are saved in inifile too:

[sizes]
MainForm=23,0,1032,744,1
; │ │ │ │ └─ Window maximized (0-no, 1-yes)
; │ │ │ └──── Height
; │ │ └───────── Width
; │ └──────────── Top
; └─────────────── Left


[*] "Open Line" moved to "Line".

[#] All the flags MUST be in the FlagsDir (set in inifile).

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── [/quote]

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oh... yeah, i've been playing with the sources off and on for over a
year using lazarus and fpc... i'm not even using the delzip or jedi crap when i come across it... they are being replaced with existing library routines, rewritten or removed as unneeded ;)

It sounds like you might be able to present quite an attractive package to the hungry people. 8-)

Now that you mentioned it, I seem to recall that the jedi crap was also something missing when I tried to compile Argus way back.

Should anyone have the complete package (Argus, Radius or Taurus), adjusted so that it compiles by any flavour of Delphi on a virgin install -- that would be awesome indeed!

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Hi! Bj÷rn,

In a message to Mark Lewis you wrote:

Should anyone have the complete package (Argus, Radius or Taurus), adjusted so that it compiles by any flavour of Delphi on a virgin
install -- that would be awesome indeed!

Ahhmmm... that would be that Frans Lupschen bloke and his "Trapgate"? Where is

Frans hiding?

Cheers,
Paul.

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On Fri, 30 May 2014, Björn Felten wrote to mark lewis:

oh... yeah, i've been playing with the sources off and on for over
a year using lazarus and fpc... i'm not even using the delzip or
jedi crap when i come across it... they are being replaced with
existing library routines, rewritten or removed as unneeded ;)

It sounds like you might be able to present quite an attractive package to the hungry people. 8-)

maybe...

Now that you mentioned it, I seem to recall that the jedi crap
was also something missing when I tried to compile Argus way back.

it is a separate set of libraries that are available elsewhere...

Should anyone have the complete package (Argus, Radius or
Taurus), adjusted so that it compiles by any flavour of Delphi on a
virgin install -- that would be awesome indeed!

you won't find anything like that from me... i don't do delphi shite... it is too winwhatever centric and i prefer to target other platforms first ;)

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