Trapgate looks like another Argus/Radius/Targus clone, but is new - is anyone using it?

http://sourceforge.net/projects/trapgate/reviews/

According to the web site the guts have been changed but the UI stayed the same.

I don't see a changelog, however.
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Hi! Kurt,

In a message to All you wrote:

Trapgate looks like another Argus/Radius/Targus clone, but is new -
is anyone using it?

Thanks for the heads-up! I've grabbed a couple of archives, and pulled them apart to read the dox. That's it so far.

According to the web site the guts have been changed but the UI
stayed the same.
I don't see a changelog, however.

There's nothing really in the dox either. I've written a netmail to the maintainer, inviting him to join us here (or any other support echo he may suggest), so, I'm playing a waiting game now till I can question him. :)

Cheers,
Paul.

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Re: Anyone using TRAPGATE?
By: Paul Quinn to Kurt Weiske on Thu Dec 19 2013 08:22 am

There's nothing really in the dox either. I've written a netmail to the maintainer, inviting him to join us here (or any other support echo he may
suggest),

Maybe we should start an ARGRADTAUTRAP echo?
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Hi! Kurt,

On Wed, 18 Dec 13, you wrote to me:

I've written a netmail to the maintainer, inviting him to join us
here (or any other support echo he may suggest),

Maybe we should start an ARGRADTAUTRAP echo?

I now realise that you're some sort of extrem'ophile. :)

There has always been an Argus echo, and I don't understand why anyone maintaining an Argus-derivative doesn't/won't use the echo. (The experiment with the Taurus fork _echo_ was actually unnecessary, IMO.) This is still Fidonet, isn't it.[rhetorical]

Cheers,
Paul.

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Re: Anyone using TRAPGATE?
By: Paul Quinn to Kurt Weiske on Thu Dec 19 2013 11:20 am

There has always been an Argus echo, and I don't understand why anyone maintaining an Argus-derivative doesn't/won't use the echo. (The experiment with the Taurus fork _echo_ was actually unnecessary, IMO.)

I posted about this a while back; I thought what might benefit users of one of the variants might benefit 'em all.

Has anyone compiled a list of features bugfixes in each version? I've dabbled with them all and hate to say it, but I'm running Radius primarily because I like the system tray icon. :)
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There has always been an Argus echo,

Some of us have postings dating back to 2000-07-17 here, and I guess it started even before that (I only joined after I got it installed).

Yes indeed, that sounds almost as "always" in fido terms.

I agree with you Paul, one Argus echo should be enough for all derivatives.

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Hi! Bj÷rn,

On Thu, 19 Dec 13, you wrote to me:

Some of us have postings dating back to 2000-07-17 here,

G-o-l-l-y... so do I, now. Lookee dat. Ooh. :) Thank you.

and I guess it started even before that (I only joined after I got it installed).

Same here but much later.

BTW. I'm hoping there wasn't too much damage from my 'test' this morning?

Cheers,
Paul.

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BTW. I'm hoping there wasn't too much damage from my 'test' this morning?

Absolutely not. The strange thing is that I found this in the log:

---------- Thu 11 Aug 2011, WinFreq 1.00.05ß; Task= ------------------
~ 13.50.08 -------------------------------
~ 13.50.08 CONNECT: 600
~ 13.50.08 Port : 24554
~ 13.50.08 Phone : quinnspost.dyndns.org
~ 13.50.08 Status : PROTECTED, LISTED
~ 13.50.08 -------------------------------
& 13.50.08 Node : Quinn's Post, node X, 3:640/384
& 13.50.08 Sysop: Paul Quinn, Maryborough, QLD, OZ
~ 13.50.08 -------------------------------
+ 13.50.08 FREQ : FNEWSS31.ZIP
+ 13.50.08 FREQ : FIDONEWS
~ 13.50.08 -------------------------------

I wonder how that went.

Well, to get on topic here, what FReq programs do y'all use for the Argus family? Any suggestions are welcome.

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Hi! Bj÷rn,

On Thu, 19 Dec 13, you wrote to me:

---------- Thu 11 Aug 2011, WinFreq 1.00.05ß; Task=
I wonder how that went.

Yikes! My evil doings in the past have come back to haunt me! Just checking... it wasn't a pretty sight...

Many errors similar to this (last entry)...
11-Aug-2011 22:00:26 Disconnect reason is fatal error
* 11-Aug-2011 22:00:26 Session aborted

End of experiment. Oops. (A lot of that going around.)

Well, to get on topic here, what FReq programs do y'all use for
the Argus family? Any suggestions are welcome.

See my netmail, and the BinkD echo.

Cheers,
Paul.

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End of experiment. Oops. (A lot of that going around.)

Hehe. Well, Håkan Andersson (1951-2003), author of WinFreq, rest in peace wherever you are, you were a great guy and did many good things here in Swedish
Fidonet, but WinFreq obviously wasn't one of your best products.

See my netmail, and the BinkD echo.

Thanks, mate!

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Has anyone compiled a list of features bugfixes in each version?

My guess is that you have to know Russian to be able to keep up with all the
recent development.

As long as we don't even allow them to post messages with their own Cyrillic
character set in Fidonet, they'll give us the finger if we ask them. At least that what I have figured out...

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Hi! Kurt,

On Wed, 18 Dec 13, you wrote to me:

Has anyone compiled a list of features bugfixes in each version?

Not that I'm aware of. Argus has its own History.txt file of changes. The last Radius archive I have here has a History.Eng list of changes (up to 4.010 [21-Jan-200], SR2). The single Taurus archive I have (an alpha, Feb '06) has no dox at all.

I've dabbled with them all and hate to say it, but I'm running Radius primarily because I like the system tray icon. :)

There you go. How extreme! (Kinda looks like the level exit button in Duke Nukem 3D, huh.)

I like Argus & Radius because it/they did both POTS & IP in a single package, running whatever nodes as required. It freed me from having to use both binkD & Binkley. Whoo!hoo!

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hi! All,

In a msg of Mon, 16 Dec 13, Kurt Weiske wrote to you:

@MSGID: 192.argus@1:218/700 17149b83
@PID: Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 Nov 25 2013 MSC 1600
@TID: SBBSecho 2.12-Win32 r1.203 Oct 8 2011 MSC 1200
@SEEN+BY: 3/0 633/267 640/384 954 712/0 620 848
@PATH: 218/700 261/38 712/848

Apologies for the duplicate, guys. It seems to have been up-chucked from my glorious ZC's node, after fermenting there for a few days maybe. Or, was it Z1C? Mmmm. (Enough time for me to go into a flat panic IAC.)

There was apparently no hope for any dupe detection as a lot of peoples' systems rely on a properly-formed MSGID (mine particularly). Some others rely on a byte count & origin date/time (? IIRC) but this version of the message lacks even the TZUTC kludge in the other copy I have, and if we disregard the differing PATH & SEEN+BY lists as well... well, no chance of detection.

Oh, well. So sorry.

Cheers,
Paul.

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