• Re: BBS over Ham Radio

    From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Datalus on Thu Jul 19 22:55:43 2018
    On 07/19/18, Datalus pondered and said...

    On 07/19/18, Supa_Scoopa said the following...
    They used BBS over ham radio during the San Fransisco earthquake in 1
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    Yes I remember hearing that. would like to find the info how they did it. That would be interesting to see if our technology has gotten better
    just for the heck of it!
    Thanks Sam

    same here...

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Datalus on Thu Jul 19 20:02:14 2018
    Hi Datalus!

    19 Jul 2018 06:22, from Datalus -> Supa_Scoopa:

    They used BBS over ham radio during the San Fransisco earthquake
    in 1989.
    Yes I remember hearing that. would like to find the info how they did
    it. That would be interesting to see if our technology has gotten
    better just for the heck of it!

    In AX.25 I guess not much change.
    But there are many areas with Hamnet (Amateur radio IP network).

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Supa_Scoopa on Fri Jul 20 08:33:00 2018
    07-19-18 02:01 Supa_Scoopa wrote to Datalus about Re: BBS over Ham Radio
    Howdy! Supa_Scoopa,

    @MSGID: <5B50A79E.1887.amtradio@capitolcityonline.net>
    They used BBS over ham radio during the San Fransisco earthquake in
    1989.

    In the late 1970's there were some Hams in the Louisville, Kentucky &
    Southern Indiana area who operated AFSK BAUDOT and ASCII Radioteletype BBS's
    on Two Meters using their Apple ][ and Atari PC's.

    AX.25 Packet BBS's started up around mid-1980 in my area.
    They were on VHF and HF.

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .



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  • From Andy Ball@1:261/38 to Paul Hayton on Sat Jul 21 10:07:26 2018
    D> Back a while back I know there was people who used a
    > cb sideband channel 55 yes I know 55 is not a legal
    > channel back then dont know if it is now...

    PH> Interesting, here we have those bands, I'd need to
    > check out specs... Humm...

    "55" could mean anything because of the way CB PLLs get hacked around. Here are
    my notes on the legitimate channel frequencies...

    FCC/CEPT CB Radio Channel Frequencies

    1 26.965 13 27.115 26 27.265
    2 26.975 14 27.125 27 27.275
    3 26.985 15 27.135 28 27.285
    26.995 27.145 29 27.295
    4 27.005 16 27.155 30 27.305
    5 27.015 17 27.165 31 27.315
    6 27.025 18 27.175 32 27.325
    7 27.035 19 27.185 33 27.335
    27.045 27.195 34 27.345
    8 27.055 20 27.205 35 27.355
    9 27.065 21 27.215 36 27.365
    10 27.075 22 27.225 37 27.375
    11 27.085 24 27.235 38 27.385
    27.095 25 27.245 39 27.395
    12 27.105 23 27.255 40 27.405


    UK CB Radio Channel Frequencies

    1 27.60125 21 27.80125
    2 27.61125 22 27.81125
    3 27.62125 23 27.82125
    4 27.63125 24 27.83125
    5 27.64125 25 27.84125
    6 27.65125 26 27.85125
    7 27.66125 27 27.86125
    8 27.67125 28 27.87125
    9 27.68125 29 27.88125
    10 27.69125 30 27.89125
    11 27.70125 31 27.90125
    12 27.71125 32 27.91125
    13 27.72125 33 27.92125
    14 27.73125 34 27.93125
    15 27.74125 35 27.94125
    16 27.75125 36 27.95125
    17 27.76125 37 27.96125
    18 27.77125 38 27.97125
    19 27.78125 39 27.98125
    20 27.79125 40 27.99125

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  • From Datalus@1:123/120 to Andy Ball on Sat Jul 21 12:44:58 2018
    On 07/21/18, Andy Ball said the following...
    D> Back a while back I know there was people who used a
    > cb sideband channel 55 yes I know 55 is not a legal
    > channel back then dont know if it is now...

    Channel 55 is 27.550 I used it alot back in the early 80's putting out
    55watts upper sideband on a president washington Base station with a super scanner Beam Antenna I could reach England from upstate NY was alot of fun
    I still have sitting on the shelf right here still works could go 8 channels into 10meter and 12 bands below channel 1 but couldnt go there it was gov. channels fish and game ect.
    Thxs Sam

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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Andy Ball on Sun Jul 22 10:39:08 2018
    On 07/21/18, Andy Ball pondered and said...

    "55" could mean anything because of the way CB PLLs get hacked around. Here are my notes on the legitimate channel frequencies...


    Yep quite correct and in New Zealand I suspect it's different again... thanks for pointing that out.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Andy Ball on Sun Jul 22 12:26:00 2018
    On 07-21-18 10:07, Andy Ball wrote to Paul Hayton <=-

    "55" could mean anything because of the way CB PLLs get hacked around. Here are my notes on the legitimate channel frequencies...

    FCC/CEPT CB Radio Channel Frequencies

    Also the same in Australia, which adopted the same AM/SSB 27 MHz specs as the USA. However, since you're talking to Paul, NZ is different. Their CB band is down in 26 MHz.


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Paul Hayton on Sun Jul 22 18:27:00 2018
    On 07-22-18 10:39, Paul Hayton wrote to Andy Ball <=-

    Yep quite correct and in New Zealand I suspect it's different again... thanks for pointing that out.

    Yes, NZ has a rather unique allocation on 26 MHz. Apparently, that was because TVNZ channel 1 started around 54 MHz, and 27 MHz would have caused nationwide TVI over there. :D


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  • From Al Kaiser@1:142/926 to Ed Vance on Tue Jul 24 09:13:31 2018
    Ed Vance wrote to Supa_Scoopa Subject: Re: BBS over Ham Radio

    In the late 1970's there were some Hams in the Louisville,
    Kentucky & Southern Indiana area who operated AFSK BAUDOT and ASCII Radioteletype BBS's on Two Meters using their Apple ][ and Atari
    PC's.

    I ran a 20 meter mailbox system for many years after I got into ham radio in 1979. I started in the 80's some time using the HAL DSR-3100, (Later the HAL DSK-3100 when they added a discs drive. I was called an MSO, which stood for Message Storage Option. It was a store and forward system. I was on 20
    meters about 14.0875 If I remember correctly. You would get on with your
    RTTY System and type MSOAPI. My system would come one, welcome you, and you could read and store messages. Sort of like a simple Packet BBS. There were
    a number of us on frequency, so you could leave a message on my machine for
    a friend who you did not have propagation to, he could check in read the mesages and leave you a reply. You could write and erase your messges. I also put the ARRL Bulletins in and other messages of interest that you could read but only I could erase. It was a great group of guys and we had other MSOs on from SD, IL, FL, Guatamala and even a few in Europe. the HAL Corporation was and still is located in Urbana, IL. HAL was also the name of the computer
    in 2001 Space Oddesy butild in, yes, Urban, IL, Vut Bill Henry akkways
    ckauned that his company pre date the 1868 movie by 19 years. Not sure if
    Bill sill owns HAL, Bill is also a ham radio op, (I forgot his call).

    Fun times back then RTTY was and stll it my favorite digital mode.

    -73-

    Al Kaiser n1api@cox.net <=-

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    Al Kaiser - Meriden, CT, 24-Jul-2018 at 9:13.
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  • From Al Kaiser@1:142/926 to Ed Vance on Tue Jul 24 09:13:31 2018
    Ed Vance wrote to Supa_Scoopa Subject: Re: BBS over Ham Radio

    In the late 1970's there were some Hams in the Louisville,
    Kentucky & Southern Indiana area who operated AFSK BAUDOT and ASCII Radioteletype BBS's on Two Meters using their Apple ][ and Atari
    PC's.

    I ran a 20 meter mailbox system for many years after I got into ham radio in 1979. I started in the 80's some time using the HAL DSR-3100, (Later the HAL DSK-3100 when they added a discs drive. I was called an MSO, which stood for Message Storage Option. It was a store and forward system. I was on 20
    meters about 14.0875 If I remember correctly. You would get on with your
    RTTY System and type MSOAPI. My system would come one, welcome you, and you could read and store messages. Sort of like a simple Packet BBS. There were
    a number of us on frequency, so you could leave a message on my machine for
    a friend who you did not have propagation to, he could check in read the mesages and leave you a reply. You could write and erase your messges. I also put the ARRL Bulletins in and other messages of interest that you could read but only I could erase. It was a great group of guys and we had other MSOs on from SD, IL, FL, Guatamala and even a few in Europe. the HAL Corporation was and still is located in Urbana, IL. HAL was also the name of the computer
    in 2001 Space Oddesy built in, yes, Urban, IL, But Bill Henry always
    claimed that his company pre dateed the 1868 movie by 10 years. Not sure if Bill sill owns HAL, Bill is also a ham radio op, (I forgot his call).

    Fun times back then RTTY was and stll it my favorite digital mode.

    -73-

    Al Kaiser n1api@cox.net <=-

    Stay Healthy 'n Wealthy!

    Al Kaiser - Meriden, CT, 24-Jul-2018 at 9:13.
    Fido : 1:142/926 - Internet : n1api@cox.net

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  • From Brent Hendricks@1:154/50 to All on Wed Aug 8 16:06:07 2018
    Before I left the states for Korea, there was not much packet activity besides APRS in San Diego, Ca. Though that may depend on the region.

    RTTY seemed to still be active on HF, then there is WINLINK for sending email over the PACTOR modes. There may also be WINLINK VHF/UHF nodes in your area.

    Brent Hendricks (RUG RAT)
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  • From Ian Thurston@1:218/640 to Brent Hendricks on Sat Aug 11 00:33:47 2018
    Before I left the states for Korea, there was not much packet activity besides APRS in San Diego, Ca. Though that may depend on the region.

    I used to run a PBBS on 145.01 in San Diego from 1993 to around 1997, got interested in "full service BBSing" and became a node on 145.05. I remember lots of activity back then but I've been out of ham radio for a while. Still have a KPC-3 in the garage somewhere though... :)

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