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  • Chuck Forsberg's rzsz source code archives

    From Digital Man@VERT to All on Wed Oct 1 17:16:17 2025
    I'm planning a project to recreate the history of Chuck's rz and sz programs (which includes minirb, etc.) on github.

    The original X/Y/ZMODEM for UNIX implementation archives were released by Chuck as either rzsz.arc (aka RZSZ.ARC, RZSZ.ZOO) or posted (e.g. to USENET) in SHAR format.

    I'm aware of collections such as https://github.com/UweOhse/xyz-modem-archive, but if you have or can find any early (e.g. < 1988) releases from Chuck of RZ/SZ for UNIX, please send me links or upload to Vertrauen!

    Thank you,
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Wed Oct 1 22:17:17 2025
    Re: Chuck Forsberg's rzsz source code archives
    By: Digital Man to All on Wed Oct 01 2025 05:16 pm

    The original X/Y/ZMODEM for UNIX implementation archives were
    released by Chuck as either rzsz.arc (aka RZSZ.ARC, RZSZ.ZOO)
    or posted (e.g. to USENET) in SHAR format.


    I'm aware of collections such as https://github.com/UweOhse/xyz-modem-archive, but if you have or can
    find any early (e.g. < 1988) releases from Chuck of RZ/SZ for UNIX,
    please send me links or upload to Vertrauen!

    so it's probably RZSZ.*
    man this guy could have done a better job naming his archives.

    i just have the 88 version and the fossil rzsztp archive dated 05-20-88
    this fossil one has a unix .pas file
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Thu Oct 2 02:00:31 2025
    Re: Chuck Forsberg's rzsz source code archives
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Oct 01 2025 10:17 pm

    so it's probably RZSZ.*

    Yup and the newest one is CRZSZ*.*.

    man this guy could have done a better job naming his archives.

    Yup. If he were still around, he'd likely agree.

    i just have the 88 version and the fossil rzsztp archive dated 05-20-88
    this fossil one has a unix .pas file

    Thanks, but I'm only interested in the C sources (e.g. sz.c, rz.c). Still, hang on to that archive, it might be valuable some day! :-)
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to All on Thu Oct 2 02:13:27 2025
    Re: Chuck Forsberg's rzsz source code archives
    By: Digital Man to All on Wed Oct 01 2025 05:16 pm

    Who ever uploaded rzsz-06-05-86.tar to Vertrauen - thank you very much! I think that's the olded version of Chuck's C source I've seen so far.

    Do you happen to have any README, MAKEFILE or any other doc/text files that might've accompanied those source files?
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Thu Oct 2 08:48:37 2025
    Re: Chuck Forsberg's rzsz source code archives
    By: Digital Man to All on Thu Oct 02 2025 02:13 am

    Who ever uploaded rzsz-06-05-86.tar to Vertrauen - thank you very much! I think that's the olded version of Chuck's C source I've seen so far.

    Do you happen to have any README, MAKEFILE or any other doc/text files that might've accompanied those source files?

    I wasn't the one who uploaded that, but I found this zmodem.txt online:

    https://gallium.inria.fr/~doligez/zmodem/zmodem.txt

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Thu Oct 2 08:50:22 2025
    Re: Chuck Forsberg's rzsz source code archives
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Oct 02 2025 08:48 am

    I wasn't the one who uploaded that, but I found this zmodem.txt online:

    https://gallium.inria.fr/~doligez/zmodem/zmodem.txt

    And I just noticed the address for Omen Technology near the top of that is in Portland, Oregon.. They were in my area. :)

    Nightfox

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  • From nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Digital Man on Thu Oct 2 11:01:37 2025
    Re: Chuck Forsberg's rzsz source code archives
    By: Digital Man to All on Thu Oct 02 2025 02:13:27

    Who ever uploaded rzsz-06-05-86.tar to Vertrauen - thank you very much! I think that's the olded version of Chuck's C source I've seen so far.

    That was me.

    Do you happen to have any README, MAKEFILE or any other doc/text files that might've accompanied those source files?

    That's all that was in the file. It came as a zip file that turned out to be a .TRZ file

    RZSZ.TRZ: compress'd data 12 bits

    I used uncompress -b12 -c RZSZ.TRZ > rzsz.tar

    That's pretty much what I uploaded. No additional files I'm afraid.

    I just uploaded one from 1987 also.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to All on Sun Oct 12 17:56:15 2025
    Re: Chuck Forsberg's rzsz source code archives
    By: Digital Man to All on Wed Oct 01 2025 05:16 pm

    An update on this project... so far, I have found the following:

    1986-05-18_1.03_03/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.03 05-18-86" 1986-05-18_1.03_03/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.03 05-18-86" 1986-06-05_1.04_07/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.04 06-05-86" 1986-06-05_1.04_07/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.07 06-05-86" 1986-07-18_1.06_08/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.06 07-16-86" 1986-07-18_1.06_08/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.08 07-17-86" 1986-08-16_1.06_13/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.06 07-16-86" 1986-08-16_1.06_13/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.13 08-16-86" 1986-09-15_1.08_14/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.08 09-15-86" 1986-09-15_1.08_14/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.14 09-06-86" 1987-03-10_1.18_26/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.18 02-18-87" 1987-03-10_1.18_26/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.26 03-10-87" 1987-08-21_1.26_35/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.26 08-21-87" 1987-08-21_1.26_35/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.35 08-21-87" 1988-03-09_1.29_44/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.29 03-08-88" 1988-03-09_1.29_44/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.44 03-03-88" 1988-05-17_2.03_12/rz.c:#define VERSION "2.03 05-17-88" 1988-05-17_2.03_12/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 2.12 05-29-88" 1989-05-09_3.00_03/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.00 4-19-89" 1989-05-09_3.00_03/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 3.03 5-09-89" 1989-05-25_3.01_03/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.01 5-25-89" 1989-05-25_3.01_03/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 3.03 5-09-89" 1990-02-02_3.02_07/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.02 6-04-89" 1990-02-02_3.02_07/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 3.07 2-02-90" 1991-07-02_3.07_14/rz.c:#define VERSION "\033[4m3.07\033[0m 05-30-91" 1991-07-02_3.07_14/sz.c:#define VERSION "\033[4m3.14\033[0m 07-02-91" 1991-12-07_3.17_18/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.17 10-30-91" 1991-12-07_3.17_18/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.18 12-07-91" 1993-05-16_3.24_24/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.24 5-5-93" 1993-05-16_3.24_24/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.24 5-16-93" 1993-09-15_3.25_25/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.25 6-13-93" 1993-09-15_3.25_25/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.25 6-13-93" 1994-01-27_3.32_32/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.32 01-27-94" 1994-01-27_3.32_32/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.32 01-27-94" 1994-04-23_3.36_36/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.36 04-23-94" 1994-04-23_3.36_36/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.36 04-23-94" 1994-05-15_3.36_37/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.36 04-23-94" 1994-05-15_3.36_37/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.37 05-15-94" 1994-06-22_3.38_38/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.38 06-03-94" 1994-06-22_3.38_38/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.38 06-22-94" 1996-03-19_3.42_40/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.42 03-19-96" 1996-03-19_3.42_40/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.40 02-21-95" 1998-01-27_3.48_48/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.48 01-27-98" 1998-01-27_3.48_48/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.48 01-27-98" 2003-01-30_3.73_73/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.73 1-30-03" 2003-01-30_3.73_73/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.73 1-30-03"

    If you come across something I don't have, please let me know and/or upload the files to me. Thanks!

    BTW, CRZSZ is a variant of RZSZ (by Chuck) and while interesting, not a continuation of the same programs, so not particularly relevant to my project.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to All on Tue Oct 14 18:56:36 2025
    Re: Chuck Forsberg's rzsz source code archives
    By: Digital Man to All on Sun Oct 12 2025 05:56 pm

    Found a few more:

    1987-10-11_1.26_36/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.36 08-31-87" 1994-02-18_3.33_33/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.33 02-18-94" 1994-02-18_3.33_33/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.33 02-18-94"
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to All on Sat Oct 18 13:25:48 2025
    Re: Chuck Forsberg's rzsz source code archives
    By: Digital Man to All on Tue Oct 14 2025 06:56 pm

    Here's the latest list of versions I've found (Thank you to DaiTengu's War Ensemble BBS for providing me with a few of these I found nowhere else so far):

    1986-05-18_1.03_03/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.03 05-18-86" 1986-05-18_1.03_03/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.03 05-18-86" 1986-06-05_1.04_07/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.04 06-05-86" 1986-06-05_1.04_07/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.07 06-05-86" 1986-07-18_1.06_08/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.06 07-16-86" 1986-07-18_1.06_08/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.08 07-17-86" 1986-08-16_1.06_13/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.06 07-16-86" 1986-08-16_1.06_13/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.13 08-16-86" 1986-09-15_1.08_14/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.08 09-15-86" 1986-09-15_1.08_14/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.14 09-06-86" 1986-11-14_1.10_19/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.10 11-06-86" 1986-11-14_1.10_19/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.19 11-14-86" 1987-01-25_1.16_25/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.16 01-25-87" 1987-01-25_1.16_25/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.25 01-18-87" 1987-03-10_1.18_26/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.18 02-18-87" 1987-03-10_1.18_26/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.26 03-10-87" 1987-08-21_1.26_35/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.26 08-21-87" 1987-08-21_1.26_35/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.35 08-21-87" 1987-10-11_1.26_36/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.26 10-11-87" 1987-10-11_1.26_36/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.36 08-31-87" 1988-03-09_1.29_44/rz.c:#define VERSION "1.29 03-08-88" 1988-03-09_1.29_44/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 1.44 03-03-88" 1988-05-29_2.03_12/rz.c:#define VERSION "2.03 05-17-88" 1988-05-29_2.03_12/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 2.12 05-29-88" 1989-04-22_3.00_01/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.00 4-19-89" 1989-04-22_3.00_01/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 3.01 4-22-89" 1989-05-09_3.00_03/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.00 4-19-89" 1989-05-09_3.00_03/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 3.03 5-09-89" 1989-05-25_3.01_03/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.01 5-25-89" 1989-05-25_3.01_03/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 3.03 5-09-89" 1990-02-02_3.02_07/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.02 6-04-89" 1990-02-02_3.02_07/sz.c:#define VERSION "sz 3.07 2-02-90" 1991-03-20_3.05_11/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.05 03-20-91" 1991-03-20_3.05_11/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.11 02-26-91" 1991-07-02_3.07_14/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.07 05-30-91" 1991-07-02_3.07_14/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.14 07-02-91" 1991-10-04_3.11_16/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.11 10-04-91" 1991-10-04_3.11_16/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.16 09-15-91" 1991-12-07_3.17_18/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.17 10-30-91" 1991-12-07_3.17_18/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.18 12-07-91" 1993-05-05_3.24_23/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.24 5-5-93" 1993-05-05_3.24_23/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.23 5-03-93" 1993-05-16_3.24_24/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.24 5-5-93" 1993-05-16_3.24_24/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.24 5-16-93" 1993-06-13_3.25_25/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.25 6-13-93" 1993-06-13_3.25_25/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.25 6-13-93" 1994-01-27_3.32_32/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.32 01-27-94" 1994-01-27_3.32_32/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.32 01-27-94" 1994-02-18_3.33_33/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.33 02-18-94" 1994-02-18_3.33_33/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.33 02-18-94" 1994-04-23_3.36_36/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.36 04-23-94" 1994-04-23_3.36_36/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.36 04-23-94" 1994-05-15_3.36_37/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.36 04-23-94" 1994-05-15_3.36_37/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.37 05-15-94" 1994-06-22_3.38_38/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.38 06-03-94" 1994-06-22_3.38_38/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.38 06-22-94" 1995-04-21-3.41_40/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.41 04-21-95" 1995-04-21-3.41_40/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.40 02-21-95" 1996-03-19_3.42_40/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.42 03-19-96" 1996-03-19_3.42_40/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.40 02-21-95" 1996-09-16_3.44_40/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.44 09-16-96" 1996-09-16_3.44_40/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.40 02-21-95" 1998-01-27_3.48_48/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.48 01-27-98" 1998-01-27_3.48_48/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.48 01-27-98" 2003-01-30_3.73_73/rz.c:#define VERSION "3.73 1-30-03" 2003-01-30_3.73_73/sz.c:#define VERSION "3.73 1-30-03"

    As before... if you can help me fill in the gaps (especially any older than v1.03 or newer than v3.73), I and future software archaeologists will be very grateful.
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  • From nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Sun Oct 19 00:42:24 2025
    On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 13:25:48 -0700
    "Digital Man" (VERT) <VERT!Digital.Man@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

    Re: Chuck Forsberg's rzsz source code archives
    By: Digital Man to All on Tue Oct 14 2025 06:56 pm

    Here's the latest list of versions I've found (Thank you to
    DaiTengu's War Ensemble BBS for providing me with a few of these I
    found nowhere else so far):


    https://mirrors.nycbug.org/pub/The_Unix_Archive/Unix_Usenet/alt.sources/1988-March/001275.htm


    #define VERSION "sz 1.44 03-03-88". You'll want to get all 3 parts of
    the archived article.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sun Oct 19 04:03:33 2025
    Re: Chuck Forsberg's rzsz source code archives
    By: Digital Man to All on Sat Oct 18 2025 01:25 pm

    Re: Chuck Forsberg's rzsz source code archives
    By: Digital Man to All on Tue Oct 14 2025 06:56 pm

    Here's the latest list of versions I've found (Thank you to
    DaiTengu's War Ensemble BBS for providing me with a few of these
    I found nowhere else so far):



    i suggest you attempt to contact his wife betty and see if she has anything where the sourcecode would be stored on.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to nelgin on Sun Oct 19 20:04:21 2025
    Re: Re: Chuck Forsberg's rzsz source code archives
    By: nelgin to All on Sun Oct 19 2025 12:42 am

    On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 13:25:48 -0700
    "Digital Man" (VERT) <VERT!Digital.Man@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

    Re: Chuck Forsberg's rzsz source code archives
    By: Digital Man to All on Tue Oct 14 2025 06:56 pm

    Here's the latest list of versions I've found (Thank you to
    DaiTengu's War Ensemble BBS for providing me with a few of these I
    found nowhere else so far):


    https://mirrors.nycbug.org/pub/The_Unix_Archive/Unix_Usenet/alt.sources/1988 -Ma rch/001275.htm


    #define VERSION "sz 1.44 03-03-88". You'll want to get all 3 parts of
    the archived article.

    Thanks, I already had that version:
    1988-03-09_1.29_44 (that's RZ v1.29 and SZ v1.44)
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